Raikkonen: Alonso paid to drive for Ferrari

Is Marlboro a German company? Did Schumacher bring Marlboro with him from Benetton?

I'd think Rosberg-Mercedes-Brawn thing is another case of a talented pay driver getting favours, with Barrichello getting out of the day, etc. It's a much similar case, but I guess you can't help bringing Schumacher up, can you?

swo why do you think he was sacked? For over performing???

Look, that story might be true too. Kimi is a honest person and what they claim he has said sounds true to me too.

Edited by BMW_F1, 13 October 2009 - 19:34.

Kong, take it from me, being belgian and knowing how few real F1 connaisseurs are among Belgian press, this article is worth zip, and especially from THAT source.
And thus, so is this entire thread AFAIC. Sorry...

Well , look who is talking about money now : Kimi Raikkonen , the biggest money grabber in recent years , he should be extremely happy that he is getting his salary for next year whitout having to work for it , now he says that he is looking for a top ride that enables him to fight for the WDC next year if not he will probably quit F1 ? I said : BS , he is just trying to get the most money possible , money grabber , his performance in the last two seasons ( including this one ) hardly make him deserve the amount he was getting paid

Well , look who is talking about money now : Kimi Raikkonen , the biggest money grabber in recent years , he should be extremely happy that he is getting his salary for next year whitout having to work for it , now he says that he is looking for a top ride that enables him to fight for the WDC next year if not he will probably quit F1 ? I said : BS , he is just trying to get the most money possible , money grabber , his performance in the last two seasons ( including this one ) hardly make him deserve the amount he was getting paid

"Usually, the beginners are paying to drive F1 car. But this, this is the first time I see a double world champions who pays." said Raikkonen.

http://www.skynet.be...rrari?id=576378

so you don't believe at all it is because KR underperformed to expectations and they believe that FA is the better option...

right...

Your guess is not any better than mine.

Edited by BMW_F1, 13 October 2009 - 19:48.

Well , look who is talking about money now : Kimi Raikkonen , the biggest money grabber in recent years , he should be extremely happy that he is getting his salary for next year whitout having to work for it , now he says that he is looking for a top ride that enables him to fight for the WDC next year if not he will probably quit F1 ? I said : BS , he is just trying to get the most money possible , money grabber , his performance in the last two seasons ( including this one ) hardly make him deserve the amount he was getting paid

Santander is still sponsorizing McLaren. Start to shiver, guys: next year, De la Rosa and Alguersuari at Woking.

Poor little Kimi... I didn´t know he was a cry-baby...

anyone with photoshop skills can put kimi's face on one of the grapes.. .. ?

had iat been any other team then yes I think the Santandar money may have been an influence....it's Ferrari...so no I don't think it had anything to do with it

Kimi is IMO, the fastest driver to ever drive a F1 car with the exception of Schumacher. When he's in the zone, it's mindboggling how fast he is. But that's all he is, just raw talent. He doesn't have the desire to take it a step further. What more can you say from a guy who eats icecream in the garage moments after retiring from a race.

I thought Kimi does not care.. where is this bitterness coming from..?

Kimi didn't deliver last year, so Ferrari chose to shop elsewhere.

If the Kimi comments are true it would suggest he is far more bitter than we'd been led to believe.

"Kini doesn't care" is merely another Räikkönen myth, busted as all the other myths were.

GC

Edited by Just waiting, 13 October 2009 - 20:18.

Kimi may or may not have said this. And its partially true. I doubt he said it. Not his style. But nothing untruthful in it if he did.

Of course he did, he effectively said as much the day after his sacking, it's just that cords are of varying lengths....

Well, Ferrari press office also made him out to be "sad" - which he wasnt.

??

Would be nice to know what You are smoking?

What more can you say from a guy who eats icecream in the garage moments after retiring from a race.

Thats such a MYTH!!!!! I have followed F1 since 1983 and have always liked Raikonnen but never thought of him as one of the fastest drivers ever. Any driver would be extremely quick on "his day" or when he is in his "zone". Examples are David Coulthard who could be unbeatable in Monaco on his day or even Gerhard Berger had 1-2 races a year where Senna didn't stand a chance or anybody else for that matter. Raikonnen hasn't done enough in my book to qualify for beeing one of the fastest drivers. Take the last 3 years and where has he been in comparison to Massa? Even Heidfeld beat him when he was on his game. So you shouldn't bet your house on Raikonnen beeing faster in an F1 car than Senna, you would be homeless very quick.

This is same biased media invented bullshit as reported by certain spanish media last week that "Hamilton blocks Kimi's McLaren entry".

As it hasn't been reported elsewhere, it just shows the certain reporters agenda on the topic. This is how rumours start and I guess this is posted on spanish newspapers tomorrow.

So you reckon those devilish spaniards have activated one of their belgian sleepers to plant the rumour? Wicked...

Kimi is IMO, the fastest driver to ever drive a F1 car with the exception of Schumacher. When he's in the zone, it's mindboggling how fast he is. But that's all he is, just raw talent. He doesn't have the desire to take it a step further. What more can you say from a guy who eats icecream in the garage moments after retiring from a race.

No, but it is likely that the article will be copied to spanish tabloids as well

Looking at the posts in this thread, it seems that many Alonso fans bought the story immediately.

Millaiset välit sinulle jäävät Ferrarin kanssa?

– Hyvät. Ei minulla ole mitään tekemistä tämän asian kanssa. Ei sillä ole vaikutusta, miten olen ajanut tai mitä olen tehnyt täällä. Tämä päätös ei ollut mitenkään riippuvainen koko hommasta. On helppo tietää, mikä sen ratkaisi. Rahalla saa kaikkea.

Edited by Bianchimont, 13 October 2009 - 22:00.

Räikkösen mukaan asian ympärillä on käyty lehdistössä virheellistä spekulaatiota.

- Harva tietää, mitä oikeasti on tapahtunut. Niitä ei ole monta ihmistä. Oletetaan, että toinen on tehnyt jotain väärin, jos sopimuksia päätetään, Räikkönen sanoo MTV3:lle.

- Siihen on yksi iso syy, miksi se loppui, eikä sillä ole mitään tekemistä minun ajamiseni kanssa tai sen kanssa, mitä olen tehnyt tallin sisällä tai sen ulkopuolella. Se on ihan eri syy, Räikkönen jatkaa.

Liittyykö syy espanjalaisen Santander-pankin tuloon Ferrarin sponsoriksi ja pankin haluun saada Fernando Alonso kuljettajaksi?

- Se voi olla. Ei sellaisia sopimuksia ole tehty, joita ei rahalla voisi purkaa. Sellaisia tulee joskus. Ei se minun elämääni muuta miksikään. Minulla on asiat ihan hyvin. Toivottavasti saadaan hyvä vaihtoehto ensi vuodeksi ja varmaan löydetäänkin. Ei minulla ole siitä mitään huolen häivää, Räikkönen kommentoi.

I think the Belgian source has jumped into conclusion of Räikkönen accuses Alonso as a pay driver.

Edited by Bianchimont, 13 October 2009 - 22:05.

It was probably a joke. Raikkonen and Alonso are good buddies.

Actually you can find good info from releiable source somewhere in Autosport, was at the end of 2008 or beginning of 2009, a McLaren source comparing talents of Alonso, Hamilton and Raikkonen, the last one surpass the others and by far, the point is that Kimi output is not as rich as Hamilton's or Alonso's. Alonso's output is told to be as Shumacher's and I think that is what Ferrari is looking for, someone involve in whole process.

People should understand that not drivers accomodate to all working cultures, and seems that Ferrari was not capable of exploting Raikkonen's talent, the blame should be share between the driver and the team.

In your quotes Kimi said 'there is no such contract which you couldn't terminate with money'. It's quite obvious that Ferrari bought Kimi out with Santander's money, and I think Kimi couldn't resist the prize. Otherwise he would still be driving Ferrari next year.

"D'habitude, ce sont les débutants sans gros talent qui payent pour courir. Mais là, c'est bien la première fois que je vois un double champion du monde qui paye"

Usually, beginners without talent pay to have a place in F1. But it's the first time I see a double world champion paying.

That's the translation.

You might as well thank me (! as if you would!)

"D'habitude, ce sont les débutants sans gros talent qui payent pour courir. Mais là, c'est bien la première fois que je vois un double champion du monde qui paye"

Usually, beginners without talent pay to have a place in F1. But it's the first time I see a double world champion paying.

That's the translation.

You might as well thank me (! as if you would!)