Have you gone insane???
Absolutely no! Gimmie something exciting like this:
and get rid of such a boring track like this:
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 09:48
Fantastic news! Another street track with 90 degree corners . I hope it will replace Albert Park or Spa, I can't stand these boring circuits anymore!
Good news for F1 me thinks, here is Joe Saward's take on it.Just what F1 needs, another clunky street race, in a country where F1 rates somewhere below varsity tiddlywinks in the fan stakes, just so that Bernie Ecclestone can get even richer and Tamara can loll about on a bed covered in £2 million in notes...
"One thing that always amazes me about the comments on this blog is the number of people who look at the world from the glass-half-empty point of view (pessimism), rather than the glass-half-full (optimism).
Perhaps it is in the nature of a blog-poster to always look at reasons why things cannot happen, rather than wondering if something might be possible. Formula 1 is a world where the half-empties are left behind and the half-fulls rule the roost."
Posted 22 October 2011 - 09:56
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:09
Enough with the street circuits. They are so boring to watch. Monaco is enough for me. I bet we end up loosing a classic circuit for this rubbish.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 10:20
I'm fairly certain Valencia is still unsure about its future - would you be so angry then?Enough with the street circuits. They are so boring to watch. Monaco is enough for me. I bet we end up loosing a classic circuit for this rubbish.
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Edited by August, 22 October 2011 - 11:24.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:47
Sure it's not like Bahrain (major Mclaren shareholder, investor in Mclaren automotive, Mclaren automotive regional HQ), Abu Dhabi (Ferrari World) and Malaysia (Petronas, Tony Fernandes with AirAsia, Team Lotus) have provided business opportunities for F1.A race in NY/NJ sounds cool. Two US races helps to promote in da States. Also, I think USA provides much more business opportunities for F1 than countries like Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, or Malaysia.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:52
Well, Bernie's always been about expanding the horizon of his wallet, first and foremost. However, I'd be more than delighted with a second US Grand Prix.5354057[/url]']
Another USGP? I really don't get it, I thought Bernie was all about expanding the horizons of F1.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:15
Sure it's not like Bahrain (major Mclaren shareholder, investor in Mclaren automotive, Mclaren automotive regional HQ), Abu Dhabi (Ferrari World) and Malaysia (Petronas, Tony Fernandes with AirAsia, Team Lotus) have provided business opportunities for F1.
Well, Bernie's always been about expanding the horizon of his wallet, first and foremost. However, I'd be more than delighted with a second US Grand Prix.
I wonder what it'll be called, though; surely not 'New York Grand Prix'? Although that wouldn't be without precedent - San Marino Grand Prix, anyone?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:17
Another USGP? I really don't get it, I thought Bernie was all about expanding the horizons of F1. Countries such as Argentina, Mexico and South Africa all have an F1 pedigree and their economies are growing at a much faster rate than any Western economy. Especially in Argentina all forms of motorsports enjoy a reasonably big fanbase...
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:18
From a distance (no Bette Midler) it looks wee bit like a shaft and two balls, one smaller and hanging offset than the other as it so often happens. You went random in mspaint and this is what you 'naturally' come up with, Mastah, is there something you want to tell us?
Monaco on the Hudson? Have they seen New Jersey?
Edited by primer, 22 October 2011 - 12:25.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:18
New England GP... just to irritate.;)Well, Bernie's always been about expanding the horizon of his wallet, first and foremost. However, I'd be more than delighted with a second US Grand Prix.
I wonder what it'll be called, though; surely not 'New York Grand Prix'? Although that wouldn't be without precedent - San Marino Grand Prix, anyone?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:18
Well, Bernie's always been about expanding the horizon of his wallet, first and foremost. However, I'd be more than delighted with a second US Grand Prix.
I wonder what it'll be called, though; surely not 'New York Grand Prix'? Although that wouldn't be without precedent - San Marino Grand Prix, anyone?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:22
Just what F1 needs, another clunky street race, in a country where F1 rates somewhere below varsity tiddlywinks in the fan stakes,
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:24
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New England GP... just to irritate.;)
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:27
Well the New York Jets and the New York Giants both play at the Meadowlands in New Jersey.I wonder what it'll be called, though; surely not 'New York Grand Prix'? Although that wouldn't be without precedent - San Marino Grand Prix, anyone?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:31
Surely it should be US GP North and Austin becomes US GP South?;)
I juist hope it's not going to be 'United States Grand Prix East' - that's lame.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:33
Surely it should be US GP North and Austin becomes US GP South?;)
In all seriousness I do quite like the Atlantic GP idea floated a few posts above.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:35
Well the New York Jets and the New York Giants both play at the Meadowlands in New Jersey.
But more importantly, who sponsors it?
The JPMorgan Chase Grand Prix of New York?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:43
New England GP... just to irritate.;)
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:45
Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:48
Sod it, ya think I'm your personal F1 business encyclopedia. Google is a friend of the clueless.And could you name any business opportunity provided by Turkey. I can't, and maybe that's why they lost their race.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:58
So, I guess '13 will have 21 races? Presuming that Bahrain stays.
And then there's Russia in '14 to accommodate.
Edited by lukestanton91, 22 October 2011 - 12:59.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:00
A race in NY/NJ sounds cool. Two US races helps to promote in da States.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:08
Edited by August, 22 October 2011 - 13:26.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:20
If the rumours of Circuit de Catalunya and Valencia sharing the Spanish GP on alternate years are true, that's one less Grand Prix down (even though by right, it should be at Motorland Aragon, great track, just crying out for Formula One. Same goes for Portimao in Portugal too).
I would be surprised if we go back to Bahrain next year, and in the long term, who knows? I certainly won't be upset if it never comes back.
Also, the noises coming from the Yeongam Circuit in Korea this week seemed to suggest they don't seem too confident about Korea staying on the calender.
So taking all this into account, looking at the long term, there is room for a New Jersey (or whatever it will be called) Grand Prix.
I've got no problem with that, just as long as it's better than Valencia and Singapore...
According to Saward's blog, the track would look something like this.
Edit: I still assume, the track wouldn't go straight from hairpin to 1st corner, I think it will use the roads closer to Hudson.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:24
Valid points but the US economy is so in the tank, I could imagine the local politicans bending over backwards to bring some revenue in.is there any truth that Peter Windsor is going to be the Promoter?
seriously... can anyone believe that all the red tape will be resolved within a year to stage this event
nevermind the corruption and bureaucracy Hudson county is renowned for
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:33
I'm all for a GP share between the Spanish tracks (and isn't Spa supposed to be entering a share with Paul Ricard?), but it'd be a shame to loose Korea. Especially if they finally do start building the place up. And I actually like the novelty of Singapore, but I heard there was speculation they weren't that fussed at renewing when the contract expires.
Either way, I guess there is room.
*cue inevitable fantasy calendar posts*
I'll make this less fantasy...
Australia
Malaysia
China
Spain
Monaco
Canada
Atlantic GP
European GP (either Austria or Portugal)
Britain
Germany
Hungary
Belgium/France
Italy
Singapore
Japan
Korea
India
Abu Dhabi
USA
Brazil
And, if Bernie gets his way, Sochi can fit in mid-Summer - perhaps between Germany and Hungary.
Hmm not that inspiring to me, but what do I know.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:37
Valid points but the US economy is so in the tank, I could imagine the local politicans bending over backwards to bring some revenue in.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:37
And, if Bernie gets his way, Sochi can fit in mid-Summer - perhaps between Germany and Hungary.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:40
Music to my ears.I'm thinking Hungary is going to leave in the near future.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:53
Posted 22 October 2011 - 13:57
Dream on they extended until 2016, so unless 2017 is "near future" to you it isn't leaving anytime soon.I'm thinking Hungary is going to leave in the near future.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 14:01
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 14:49
Hmm not that inspiring to me, but what do I know.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 14:55
Posted 22 October 2011 - 14:57
Must of forgot they extended. I don't see them carrying on past then, if they don't just pull out earlier anyway. When Russia comes along we have a new and improved Eastern European race, and the Hungaroring is getting dated.Dream on they extended until 2016, so unless 2017 is "near future" to you it isn't leaving anytime soon.
Posted 22 October 2011 - 15:18
Posted 22 October 2011 - 15:20
I've seen the waterfront, I live there in fact. It's a very developed area, and Weehawken in particular is a very beautiful town. Of course, it takes billions in this area just to build a stop sign here, with over-regulation and corruption, so I will believe it when I see it.Monaco on the Hudson? Have they seen New Jersey?
Posted 22 October 2011 - 15:31
Posted 22 October 2011 - 15:33
Formula 1 is immensely popular in Spain. The have a double World Champion, plus two other drivers and a team of their own. America has no Grands Prix, no teams and no races currently. If they can't maintain one race because they throw tantrums about the contracts, why should they have three?
I mean they are the same in spirit, structured the same way if not identical in the details.