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[Elwing]

Lovely detail from 'ring 75 here
http://www.fotocommu...isplay/21210095

That is a great site you posted there. Poked around a bit, this came up- Note the driver's name scribbled on the car unceremoniously with a felt tip pen. Also, this. Very early days! Oh, and great pic of Hunt as well.

Sorry for the off-topic, boys!

Edited by Elwing, 02 May 2012 - 21:12.

[mfd]

Sorry for the off-topic, boys!

Not really OT - I also spotted the 1970 photo of Lauda with his Porsche 908. It's the first coloured one I've seen of this car

Edited by mfd, 02 May 2012 - 21:28.

[jonpollak]

I got your off topic right here gang...
I don't know where to put this but want you all to hear of my experience tonight.....


I met my childhood wet dream while at work this evening
She was waiting around during our load out wanting to get backstage.

Cue vivid flashback...

While domiciled in France when Dad was working on a film,yes..THAT one, I once watched a fuzzy black and white image on the TV of a girl on a swing in super tight jean shorts and a diaphanous little top.... back and forth she swung slowly letting her hair blow in the light breeze and BINGO..
Jp discovered what it's like to be a man... at 9 years old.

Sorry, back to this evening.

So..Jp said.."Jane Birkin?!?!?!? It will be my supreme honour to escort YOU ..Jane Gorgeous Goddess of Sex Birkin, backstage"
Man... she is so frickin hot

I can die with a smile on my face now
Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 02 May 2012 - 22:03.

[Hamish Robson]

There's another photo set from Snetterton here:

https://plus.google....026515767499969

Linked from the F1M site.

[MichaelJP]

Good stuff from Snetterton, anyone know - are they filming at Cadwell today?

[simonlewisbooks]

There's another photo set from Snetterton here:

https://plus.google....026515767499969

Linked from the F1M site.

The more I see of the 'Ligier' the more out-of-proportion it looks, even allowing for modern sized helmets. The rears tyres are too small for starters. However it doesn't play a significant front line role in the events of 76 so I guess will not be particularly noticeable in the final film.

On that note : Are the rear tyres used by 70s F1 cars in historic racing today smaller than those of the mid 70s? And conversely are the fronts larger?
They certainly look it. I once had a 1976 rear as a coffee table and it was enormous.

[Andrew Kitson]

I heard they are going to Blackbushe again before Cadwell..which will become parts of Crystal Palace using the 1-litre F3s again..don't know when though. Perhaps the Hall Bends will double for the North Tower/Glade area? Some false white sleepers in place perhaps?

[simonlewisbooks]

I heard they are going to Blackbushe again before Cadwell..which will become parts of Crystal Palace using the 1-litre F3s again..don't know when though. Perhaps the Hall Bends will double for the North Tower/Glade area? Some false white sleepers in place perhaps?

Amazing what they can do with clever camera angles. Scenes for the BBC series MERLIN were filmed 100 yards from my house last year and the woodlands looked suitably ancient and wild on TV despite the double decker buses going past at regular intervals a fraction out of shot! Not to mention the falling-tree scene which carefully avoided revealing the tree-surgeon in his yellow hard hat, ear defenders and chainsaw

[Andrew Kitson]

It is also attention to detail on some of the cars too. At Snetterton I watched them on set-up day applying some decals. Yes, the usual Goodyear ones, but also vinyl sheets of 'printed' dirt & grime, cut out in small pieces and stuck to P34 endplates etc..

[Wander]

Amazing what they can do with clever camera angles. Scenes for the BBC series MERLIN were filmed 100 yards from my house last year and the woodlands looked suitably ancient and wild on TV despite the double decker buses going past at regular intervals a fraction out of shot! Not to mention the falling-tree scene which carefully avoided revealing the tree-surgeon in his yellow hard hat, ear defenders and chainsaw

Tbh. though, I've seen that series on TV and to me the props, sets and everything look quite crap. The difference to something like the Game of Thrones is huge.

Edited by Wander, 03 May 2012 - 14:39.

[funformula]

The more I see of the 'Ligier' the more out-of-proportion it looks, even allowing for modern sized helmets. The rears tyres are too small for starters. However it doesn't play a significant front line role in the events of 76 so I guess will not be particularly noticeable in the final film.

They should have changed the drivers "Laffite" and "Stuck". The tall German seems to disappear in his March while the small Frenchman needs a roll-bar extension added to his Ligier

[Keir]

No sign of the Ensign ? There is one or two of them doing the "historics"

[LittleChris]

No sign of Ronnie & the March 761 either ? Surprising since he was right up front for much of the latter half of the season

[IceSkyrim]

Niki Lauda counterfelt his diploma

http://www.zeit.de/2...i-Lauda/seite-1

Time Magazine: Mr. Lauda, ​​you were 19 years old when you started to race. Assuming there is not actually going to school?
Niki Lauda: Yes. And my parents insisted that I make the graduation. But I did it all took too long, so I faked my school leaving certificate. Everyone was happy, and I could concentrate on racing.

Time Magazine: Did you show your testimony is not your parents?
Niki Lauda
63, born in Vienna, former racing driver was, between 1971 and 1985 he raced in the Formula 1 Grand Prix of Germany at the Nurburgring in 1976, he crashed heavily, but survived. A year later he was the second time world champion. Lauda's second wife, Birgit Wetzinger married, which he donated a kidney in 2005. The first replacement kidney he received in 1997 from his brother Florian
Lauda: Sure, I've shown them only from a distance, because you could clearly see above that the name of the real owner had been done away with Inkdeath. You could see a hundred yards, that something is wrong.

Time Magazine: Did you not feel guilty?
Lauda: Oh yes, but since then I have become like race car driver and was able to put my ideas, the bad conscience was quickly gone. I have only my mother confessed years later, as I was, however, been successful.

Time Magazine: You come from a family of industrialists who laid much emphasis on performance. Did you have to fight their way to racing hard?
Lauda: My grandfather was a despot. My motivation was to prove to him that you can go another way. For that I have taken every risk.
That was my salvation

Time Magazine: Has he tried to prevent that you are racing?
Lauda: Yes, yes, as an industrialist, he intervened with my bank and scared away a sponsor, I would have desperately needed at that time. He is constantly trying to influence. He wanted me to study. He has always said about the members of our family should be able to read the financial pages of a newspaper, not on the sports page.

Time Magazine: How did you react when the sponsorship deal failed?
Lauda: With him they could not talk. I then went my own way. I had to take out a loan with another bank, which then allows me to enter the Formula 1. For four years I have repaid it.

[simonlewisbooks]

I've seen that series on TV and to me the props, sets and everything look quite crap. The difference to something like the Game of Thrones is huge.

So is the budget I'd imagine....

[Giraffe]

When I look at this thread, I'm thinking of the motorsport equivalent of "Escape to Victory" ... or similar. I see the elephant's graveyard looming Ron....

Edited by Giraffe, 03 May 2012 - 21:13.

[Hank the Deuce]

Niki Lauda counterfelt his diploma

http://www.zeit.de/2...i-Lauda/seite-1

Time Magazine: Mr. Lauda, ​​you were 19 years old when you started to race. Assuming there is not actually going to school?
Niki Lauda: Yes. And my parents insisted that I make the graduation. But I did it all took too long, so I faked my school leaving certificate. Everyone was happy, and I could concentrate on racing.

Time Magazine: Did you show your testimony is not your parents?
Niki Lauda
63, born in Vienna, former racing driver was, between 1971 and 1985 he raced in the Formula 1 Grand Prix of Germany at the Nurburgring in 1976, he crashed heavily, but survived. A year later he was the second time world champion. Lauda's second wife, Birgit Wetzinger married, which he donated a kidney in 2005. The first replacement kidney he received in 1997 from his brother Florian
Lauda: Sure, I've shown them only from a distance, because you could clearly see above that the name of the real owner had been done away with Inkdeath. You could see a hundred yards, that something is wrong.

Time Magazine: Did you not feel guilty?
Lauda: Oh yes, but since then I have become like race car driver and was able to put my ideas, the bad conscience was quickly gone. I have only my mother confessed years later, as I was, however, been successful.

Time Magazine: You come from a family of industrialists who laid much emphasis on performance. Did you have to fight their way to racing hard?
Lauda: My grandfather was a despot. My motivation was to prove to him that you can go another way. For that I have taken every risk.
That was my salvation

Time Magazine: Has he tried to prevent that you are racing?
Lauda: Yes, yes, as an industrialist, he intervened with my bank and scared away a sponsor, I would have desperately needed at that time. He is constantly trying to influence. He wanted me to study. He has always said about the members of our family should be able to read the financial pages of a newspaper, not on the sports page.

Time Magazine: How did you react when the sponsorship deal failed?
Lauda: With him they could not talk. I then went my own way. I had to take out a loan with another bank, which then allows me to enter the Formula 1. For four years I have repaid it.

That story was one of many good yarns in "To Hell And Back" for mine...

[Elwing]

That story was one of many good yarns in "To Hell And Back" for mine...

"I was careful not to let education get in the way of things". He is very open about this (and lots of other things) in all of his books. That's what I like about the man, he is just so delightfully straightforward.

[arttidesco]

Despite a 2am start I had great fun at Snetterton on Wednesday :-)

[mfd]

Despite a 2am start I had great fun at Snetterton on Wednesday :-)

Nicely put together - thanks

[simonlewisbooks]

Despite a 2am start I had great fun at Snetterton on Wednesday :-)

Good blog Ralf! Glad you enjoyed the day after such a long trip.
I guess the lack of livery on this one is meant to represent a Fiorano test? If thats a replica 312T then they go the proportions of that one spot-on from this distance!

[john winfield]

..and top marks to Jess for taking along his Autocourse (including jacket) on a bleak day in Norfolk. I know it's not one of the most valuable editions but still, you don't often see this annual open on the spectator banks! Perhaps it was a dummy copy, not quite the real thing.

[Alan Cox]

..and top marks to Jess for taking along his Autocourse (including jacket) on a bleak day in Norfolk. I know it's not one of the most valuable editions but still, you don't often see this annual open on the spectator banks! Perhaps it was a dummy copy, not quite the real thing.

I hope it's not been caught on film, as the rivet-counters would point out that it wasn't published until the end of the year

[Gwynston]

I hope it's not been caught on film, as the rivet-counters would point out that it wasn't published until the end of the year ;)

Oh wow - I sense some kind of Back to the Future thing going on! The characters in the movie could read the end-of-year Autocourse before the season has finished!
Someone could then bet on all the results, make a fortune and change the path of history

[Tony Matthews]

Or change their hemet and the course of history...

[Alan Cox]

Or change their helmet and the course of history...

[simonlewisbooks]

Or ease off a tad and let the two Ferrari's run along and play at Paddock ....

Edited by simonlewisbooks, 04 May 2012 - 11:59.

[Glengavel]

Despite a 2am start I had great fun at Snetterton on Wednesday :-)

I think there's an obvious mistake here. Renault didn't start racing in F1 until 1977.

[mfd]

I think there's an obvious mistake here. Renault didn't start racing in F1 until 1977.

Will folk on forums in the future debate the why, what, where & when, as in "Grand Prix the out-takes"

[Tim Murray]

... and is there a Françoise Hardy-like figure in it who will still be waxed lyrical over, forty years later?

Edited by Tim Murray, 04 May 2012 - 12:24.

[ensign14]

I think there's an obvious mistake here. Renault didn't start racing in F1 until 1977.

Think it's Otto Stuppacher.

[Andrew Kitson]

They are also coming the wrong way out of the bombhole...no-one has done that since stock car racing in 1972.

[Thundersports]

Apologies if this has been reported on here........http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/ingear/article1031118.ece
The Ferrari took a bit of a bump Mauro Pane was driving who I assume also owns it.
http://jalopnik.com/...the-set-of-rush

Edited by Thundersport, 05 May 2012 - 20:50.

[BRG]

They are also coming the wrong way out of the bombhole...no-one has done that since stock car racing in 1972.

I've done it - on a rally, in the wet and after dark. It was.....interesting.

[Cargo]

Lovely detail from 'ring 75 here
http://www.fotocommu...isplay/21210095

Thanx mft for that link - some fabulous pics there ...

[Andrew Kitson]

Cadwell Park this week.

[Elwing]

Oh dear, I leave for the Eifel for a few days and everything dies down here. Not much going on on the Nürburgring, by the way...

[Andrew Kitson]

F3 and replica F1 cars have been running at cadwell this week. I hear brands next week.

[Boing Ball]

For a movie about 1976 F1 season, they seem to be shooting a lot of footage of F3 racing. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just wondering what they are up to.

[arttidesco]

For a movie about 1976 F1 season, they seem to be shooting a lot of footage of F3 racing. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just wondering what they are up to.

I am sure it is all part of the story remember Ron is on record saying this is not a documentary :-)

[275 GTB-4]

Thanx mft for that link - some fabulous pics there ...

Ditto...extremely atmospheric...and quite sad in places...Thank You

[CSquared]

For a movie about 1976 F1 season, they seem to be shooting a lot of footage of F3 racing. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just wondering what they are up to.

Where did someone say it was about 1976? Serious question.

[arttidesco]

Where did someone say it was about 1976? Serious question.

You can never be too sure of even the bbc but here is a link to one that ought to be one of the more reliable sources that specifically mentions 1976 and here is another from the time Ron is alleged to have signed up to the project again no idea how reliable the source is.

Finally one from autoblog which suggests 1976 is at the centre of the story.

My guess is it will be very different from what I imagine

Edited by arttidesco, 12 May 2012 - 22:48.

[CSquared]

You can never be too sure of even the bbc but here is a link to one that ought to be one of the more reliable sources that specifically mentions 1976 and here is another from the time Ron is alleged to have signed up to the project again no idea how reliable the source is.

Finally one from autoblog which suggests 1976 is at the centre of the story.

My guess is it will be very different from what I imagine

Even if any of those were quotes from someone working on the film, which they're not, you think you might be reading it a bit too literally?

[mfd]

Where did someone say it was about 1976? Serious question.

Can you explain what you mean please.

[Emery0323]

For a movie about 1976 F1 season, they seem to be shooting a lot of footage of F3 racing. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just wondering what they are up to.

They're obviously trying to set the stage for the 1976 F1 season's drama by showing the build-up of the Lauda-Hunt friendship/rivalry during their earlier years in the junior series. No doubt there will be flashbacks, etc. to their first encounters in F3.

Edited by Emery0323, 13 May 2012 - 09:13.

[CSquared]

Can you explain what you mean please.

What I mean is, unless Ron Howard or Peter Morgan has explicitly promised that no event will be depicted in the movie which didn't happen in 1976, it's silly to get upset about them filming things involving the main characters from other years. See Emory0323's post.

[mfd]

What I mean is, unless Ron Howard or Peter Morgan has explicitly promised that no event will be depicted in the movie which didn't happen in 1976, it's silly to get upset about them filming things involving the main characters from other years. See Emory0323's post.

OK I think I get it. The film is about 1976 but includes previous years as background. These are taken from RH Twitter

@LewisHamilton this is ron howard We met at Monaco and FYI I'm doing a movie about Hunt & Lauda '76 F1 season.
@wizardofsextown: so what is the F1 movie about? A driver a year a team?” Niki Lauda & James Hunt (mostly epic '76 F1 season)
@Navimeter: Ron what you working on?”A movie set in Formula One world 1976 Chris Hemsworth & Daniel Bruhl play James Hunt & Niki Lauda

[Andrew Kitson]

I have no insider knowledge, but my bet is the film will start with 1970/71 F3 action, James versus his young rival Niki. Then don't be suprised if the infamous Palace punch-up is loosely recreated between these two, not Dave Morgan...just my guess. It is evident that the two characters will run right through the film, including James at the Hesketh team and Niki at BRM. Then on to the finale & main part of the film..the 1976 season. As has been discussed so many times in this thread, 'rivet counters' will be disappointed at some inaccuracies, not just in machinery or stickers 2cm out of place, but in the historical content. A movie for the masses, not us..but can't wait to see it nevertheless.

[simonlewisbooks]

I have no insider knowledge, but my bet is the film will start with 1970/71 F3 action, James versus his young rival Niki. Then don't be suprised if the infamous Palace punch-up is loosely recreated between these two, not Dave Morgan...just my guess. It is evident that the two characters will run right through the film, including James at the Hesketh team and Niki at BRM. Then on to the finale & main part of the film..the 1976 season. As has been discussed so many times in this thread, 'rivet counters' will be disappointed at some inaccuracies, not just in machinery or stickers 2cm out of place, but in the historical content. A movie for the masses, not us..but can't wait to see it nevertheless.

I agree with you on that. I confess I'm not too worried about rivet-counting side of things, just so long as they don't make James and Niki into the 'bitter enemies' that they weren't in real life. That would be a travesty.

There are many sporting-rival movies, mostly relying on the good-guy/bad-guy scenario, and this one, where the protagonists were not at each other's throats (even if their teams were) has the chance to be something different and original. The post-Nurburgring story is dramatic enough. They don't need to over-egg it. Hopefully the realize that. Fingers-crossed