Sarcasm? I can see the truth in what you are saying. But Hamilton was pretty positive.
Hamilton and Davidson have both confirmed that they won't be anywhere near the top already. Rosberg is the only one who seems to not know whats going on.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:22
Sarcasm? I can see the truth in what you are saying. But Hamilton was pretty positive.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:40
100mph airflow in a straight line will have a different pressure level than 100mph round a corner on whatever they're using to activate the 'switch'. The pressure effect of placing the 'pitot-tube' in-line with the air flow compared to even a small angle is pretty significant, so I suspect they will tune the device to activate at different air-flows for each track and have some mechanism to switch off when the pressure drops when going around a corner. I'll be fascinated to find out how they're going to do it though, especially how they switch it off at the end of a straight so the air can reattach to get the downforce back for the corner.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 18:59
Posted 01 March 2013 - 19:24
Jenson bigging up Mercedes (while playing down Mclaren).This ought to please the Lewis fans:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/21637548
Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:00
Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:37
Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:43
Nice to do these comparisons.
Photo taken at the same location with the same magnitude.
Look at the differnce between the loaded Mercedes and loaded RedBull front wing.
Redbull is still considerably ahead in technology on how to make the front wing run lower under load.
These things give them a nice chunk of performance.
http://www.motorspor...ton/0475192.jpg
http://www.motorspor...ton/0475195.jpg
Edited by rhukkas, 01 March 2013 - 20:44.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:43
Edited by Szoelloe, 01 March 2013 - 20:44.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:46
Posted 01 March 2013 - 20:55
Yeah, Mclaren pr machine in full spin, big merc up as much as possible so people don't buy in to lh's lowering of expectations. They want him to look like he's failed by leaving them, it's no surprise that since paddy lowe leaving has been announced jenson has said twice that merc are right at the front. No one else is, only Mclaren, who couldn't possibly have an agenda, could they?Jenson bigging up Mercedes (while playing down Mclaren).
Not a genuine observation in my opinion.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:15
Yeah, Mclaren pr machine in full spin, big merc up as much as possible so people don't buy in to lh's lowering of expectations. They want him to look like he's failed by leaving them, it's no surprise that since paddy lowe leaving has been announced jenson has said twice that merc are right at the front. No one else is, only Mclaren, who couldn't possibly have an agenda, could they?
Edited by Mc_Silver, 01 March 2013 - 21:15.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:16
Yeah, Mclaren pr machine in full spin, big merc up as much as possible so people don't buy in to lh's lowering of expectations. They want him to look like he's failed by leaving them, it's no surprise that since paddy lowe leaving has been announced jenson has said twice that merc are right at the front. No one else is, only Mclaren, who couldn't possibly have an agenda, could they?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:22
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:30
Hamilton just insisted he is deliberately lowering the expectations, you cannot blame Jenson here honestly. They have also looked pretty strong throughout the testing and Lewis said he is very happy and they are moving forwards. Remind you that Mercedes already started last season with a pretty strong car so if we assume they have much better car compared to last year it is safe to say Mercedes will be competitive at the start of the season.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:57
What could make a f1 car quick when wet and less quick on a dry track ?Grosjean:
"In the wet, Mercedes is impressive; it was going very, very quick. Then in the dry, McLaren is quick, Ferrari we don't know today, but Red Bull will be quick, Mercedes should be alright - it's going to be tight. "
http://en.espnf1.com...h.YdrWoSt5.dpuf
Nobody knows the actual pecking order, obviously. ATM though, or so far - if you wish - it really seems that the W04 is at the least not a dog. Considering that, if they are not far off the fastest car - whichever that may be -, it will come down to the rate of development they can maintain. Much depends on tomorrow and Sunday. I am really curious.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 21:58
Tyre temp management?What could make a f1 car quick when wet and less quick on a dry track ?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:02
thx, what about DF?Tyre temp management?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:03
What could make a f1 car quick when wet and less quick on a dry track ?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:05
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:08
More downforce definitely helps, but I believe in the case of Mercedes it may be strength from the mechanical side of the package. Lewis when interviewed has mentioned that while the McLaren MP4-27 had more downforce than his W04, there are area in which the Mercedes is better. I personally believe he was referring to the mechanical dynamics of the car.thx, what about DF?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:10
Seems like the car has very good mechanical grip.
Edited by Szoelloe, 01 March 2013 - 22:18.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:14
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:20
Jenson bigging up Mercedes (while playing down Mclaren).
Not a genuine observation in my opinion.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:22
Seems like the car has very good mechanical grip.
Edited by Mc_Silver, 01 March 2013 - 22:25.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:23
mechanical grip and switching on the inters and wets quickWhat could make a f1 car quick when wet and less quick on a dry track ?
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:26
Red Bull haven't really been good in the rain the past couple of seasons. I think the most important thing is keeping the tires in the working range i.e. being hard on them.
Edited by femi, 01 March 2013 - 22:30.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:37
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:39
Thanks to everyone that indulged the question by answering. @BigCHrome, I was afraid somebody will make that point which brings back my concern that they have not worked on running tests on the softer compounds. I know there has been some reasonable reasons put forward by posters in this forum to justify Merc not doing these, including NR assertion that this is no longer an issue. The fact remains Merc seems isolated in holding this stance.
I am just wondering if they are able to get the tyres up to good working temp when wet at a rate that seems above "everyone" else, wouldn't that result in the car overheating the tyres when dry and no rain water to provide cooling?
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:39
Edited by BernieEc, 01 March 2013 - 22:39.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:49
Hembrey himself said the soft is not suitable for Barcelona. Why are people expecting Mercedes to run the soft there? It will serve no purpose.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:56
Actually, I really hoping you guys are right...
Posted 01 March 2013 - 22:59
Can you show on a pic what you mean? Can't see a difference myself.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 23:01
The only reason to run it, it to try and put in the fastest time possible. And whith it being so cold, I bet they would get 4 laps out of a set before they where useless.
Posted 01 March 2013 - 23:03
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 23:13
Posted 02 March 2013 - 00:06
And traction probably hence why I think both Rosberg and Hamilton will be near or possibly on the front row in Oz, the other tracks following I'm not so sure.Seems like the car has very good mechanical grip.
Posted 02 March 2013 - 00:14
Posted 02 March 2013 - 00:45
McLaren cars always let him down in Monaco bar 07 and 08 (he let himself down in 09). Crazy to think he's only won Monaco once.Good mechanical grip is a blessing, lot of Lewis' best tracks require good mech. grip, such as monaco, montreal, singapore, abu dhabi, etc... Hopefully we can get good results at these tracks!
Edited by TomNokoe, 02 March 2013 - 00:46.
Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:52
Hamilton can win anywhere like all the great drivers, Alonso, Vettel, Schumacher etc. etc.McLaren cars always let him down in Monaco bar 07 and 08 (he let himself down in 09). Crazy to think he's only won Monaco once.
Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:04
Link pls to where he said thisI do think that a car being stable and fast in wet conditions is a good indication of overall performance. As to being slower in the dry, NR has all but said they were running 'filled to the brim' and then quickly added "or nearly". Lap times have strongly indicated that too.
Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:55
Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:21
Link pls to where he said this
Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:48
Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:53
Advisable to stay calm despite that impressive time.
Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:54
Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:58
Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:04
I think it was on softs
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:06
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