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[senna da silva]

Hintch talks GM
Jp

[Deluxx]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. 3 wide?

Wtf is this, motogp?

I'm jk, actually sounds cool. Should be nice @ Fontana too, puts all that landscape & trackspace to good use

Edited by Deluxx, 04 July 2013 - 05:19.

[PayasYouRace]

They'll be starting in rows of three at Pocono as well as Fontana.

http://www.indycar.c...-Pocono-Fontana

Not sure about Fontana. It's dangerously similar to Michigan and we all know what happened last time they tried that.

[Risil]

They gonna restart triple file too?

[greenman]

Nah, single file restarts for the big ovals, double file at tight street tracks though. So it's more likely they'll try triple file in Toronto. I mean why not, right ..

BTW if anybody is interested, Derrick Walker did a series of Q&A on racer.com, answering fans' questions about engines, aero-kits, scheduling, race procedures... Nice read, I like this guy, and I hope things go according to plan. I don't like his stance on GWC though, I don't want to see those in IndyCar.

As for this race, I'm really excited and I think we could see a fantastic race. I hope they get the aero-spec right, so the passing is a bit harder as it was in Indy. This being the last race on ABC this year, it could also mean this is the last chance to get some more casual fans. God knows the series needs them.

[Ross Stonefeld]

This Week in Paint©

Dario in a smooth all black Energizer car.

Briscoe(?) in a Team America paintjob at Panther.
https://pbs.twimg.co...e67CcAASjeC.jpg Kind of reminds me of Kimball's helmet.

Edited by Ross Stonefeld, 04 July 2013 - 13:37.

[greenman]

[HaydenFan]

An eagle getting it one with an American flag? That'll be a good conversation piece for the 18 non-American drivers in the field if they win.

[PayasYouRace]

Such a refined and subtle trophy.

[Ross Stonefeld]

I like to think the eagle is giving birth to America?

[ApexMouse]

My Freedom-Boner just exploded.

[Vitesse2]

How long has Pocono been on Iwo Jima?

[Ross Stonefeld]

Maybe it's Plymouth rock?

[SR388]

I love you guys.

[Prost1997T]

I feel sorry for the Indycar management, they have an impossible task trying to please the so-called fanbase. Or should that be bitter ex-CART fans?

[jonpollak]

How long has Pocono been on Iwo Jima?

Oh hell, I had better amend those trip directions...
RECALCULATING !!!

Jp

[Andrew Hope]

I always thought Saavedra looked a bit like a punk rock Ira Hayes. Maybe it's time for his first win?

[jonpollak]

Combined Test Results from July 4th

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 05 July 2013 - 01:43.

[Deluxx]

Anyone watch practice? Thx for results JP

[jonpollak]

Wunnee broadcasted.

[pingu666]

wonder if the trophy will join in with the spraying of fluids

[Risil]

Impressive speeds. TK up there again.

Shame Munoz and Allmendinger don't have a drives for the Triple Crown. That would add something. For sure.

Edited by Risil, 05 July 2013 - 12:09.

[senna da silva]

Its too subtle, I think this trophy needs to be more, oh I don't know, American? The founding Fathers would be so proud.

[greenman]

Impressive speeds. TK up there again.

Shame Munoz and Allmendinger don't have a drives for the Triple Crown. That would add something. For sure.

Yeah I'm a bit disappointed that there are no extra entries. These races should be hyped up, and adding some more drivers (AJ, KuBu maybe) could help with that. Hope it'll be different for Fontana.

Its too subtle, I think this trophy needs to be more, oh I don't know, American? The founding Fathers would be so proud.

There's a disappointing lack of Statue of Liberty. And the "rock" should be the shape of Mt. Rushmore. Then again we can only see the thing, not hear it. I mean, there's probably a button hidden somewhere, which, if you push it, plays the US anthem... Or THIS

[OvDrone]

Man, that TK Sunoco livery boils my mind. It must be put to the flame.

[HaydenFan]

Yeah I'm a bit disappointed that there are no extra entries. These races should be hyped up, and adding some more drivers (AJ, KuBu maybe) could help with that. Hope it'll be different for Fontana.


There's a disappointing lack of Statue of Liberty. And the "rock" should be the shape of Mt. Rushmore. Then again we can only see the thing, not hear it. I mean, there's probably a button hidden somewhere, which, if you push it, plays the US anthem... Or THIS

I don't expect any extra entries. Kinda like the horse racing triple crown. Unless you manage to win the first, the other two mean nothing more than a points paying race.

Forgot about that movie yesterday until late at night. Hope people in my apartment complex didn't plan on going to bed early.

[Peat]

DAT TROPHY

[senna da silva]

There's a disappointing lack of Statue of Liberty. And the "rock" should be the shape of Mt. Rushmore. Then again we can only see the thing, not hear it. I mean, there's probably a button hidden somewhere, which, if you push it, plays the US anthem... Or THIS

F#ck yeah!

[Risil]

Nice article on Pocono's Indycar history from Pencilvania local organ The Morning Call. To get you in the mood.

After Mattioli originally became heavily involved financially in the development of the 1,000-plus acres along Route 115 in Monroe County, he went in search of ideas about what the final product should look like.

He toured the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and the people there suggested he build a standard oval with two long straightaways and four equal and minimally banked turns. Like ours, they said.

He went to Daytona, and the people there recommended three turns and high-banked corners. Like theirs.

Mattioli called on Rodger Ward, a two-time Indianapolis 500 winner, for help. They decided on a configuration with three straightaways of differing lengths and widths and three corners with differing radii and degree of banking. Some compromise.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Must read for the opening photo alone

http://www.indycar.c...troneves-corner

[Victor_RO]

Only 5 cars in the Indy Lights race?

EDIT: Okay, silly me, they're qualifying now.

[Ross Stonefeld]

8 on the entry list

[Risil]

Anyone else think it's the lack of interesting support races that's depressing Indycar attendances?

Personally speaking, what's running aside from the 45-120 minute main event is one of the most important factors in my decision to go to a race or not. I know it's not really what NASCAR does, packing a race day with varied on-track activity, but their races are longer than Lord of the Rings.

Edited by Risil, 06 July 2013 - 16:42.

[Ross Stonefeld]

I don't personally think so. And sometimes the support stuff doesn't run on race day. NASCAR certainly doesn't.

When the weather was iffy at Milwaukee I watched the Saturday morning Indylights race on the web(and since it was running I knew the track was dry) then showed up only for the main race. I genuinely got to my seats at the end of driver intros, I think the TV coverage had started before I arrived.

The other problem is there's always such a gap between races. I think support stuff is good for people camping at like F1 races. You're already there so you might as well go check out GP2 and GP3. But showing up early and sitting around? I wouldn't bother.

When I went to Monza in 2004 we watched qualifying at Ascari and then stayed for the F3000 race. Because we needed to wait a bit for traffic to calm down so staying a few extra minutes for F3000 to start was nothing, it was the last ever race of that series, and Monza is so close to Milan there's no hurry to get home.

So I think support races have some value if you want to get in to a track early for traffic or whatever, but as a reason to attend in general? No.

On the other hand, I think a combined Grand-ALMS and Indycar weekend would be more attractive than a stand-alone of either.

My dream is Indycar, Grand-ALMS, and NASCAR Nationwide at Road America.

Edited by Ross Stonefeld, 06 July 2013 - 16:51.

[Victor_RO]

Sounds like Viso binned it in quite a massive way out of T1 on his second quali lap.

[greenman]

Yep, but he's OK, giving an interview now. Otherwise, Andretti guys in front thus far, even Viso was fast enough for 4th until then. Marco has been just silly fast all weekend. Two lap average of 221.273.

[Victor_RO]

Tags dumped it at the same place...

[greenman]

Tagliani crashed as well... Andretti guys sweep the front row, Chevy the top 6. Power had a fast first lap, but slowed a lot in second and ended up in 4th. Some other notables: TK 5th, Sato 8th, SdS 10th, Dario 18th.
Dixon I think has a 10 place grid penalty from 7th.

Hope for an excellent race tomorrow, and I hope they all go safely through T1.

Edited by greenman, 06 July 2013 - 18:44.

[Risil]

We might well see a couple of wrecks at Turn One, but I have faith in the current Dallara's ability to protect drivers in single-car accidents. It's undeniable that a main part of the mystique of these big ovals is that mistakes end races.

Would be good to see Marco win at home.

With three Andretti cars on the front row they should at least be able to avoid a Vasser-Fernandez-Herta issue. [Watching that clip I think we have conclusive proof that commentary-wise, Scott Goodyear never had it. "Well something's obviously gone wrong".]

Edited by Risil, 06 July 2013 - 18:58.

[jonpollak]

What happened to TK?
His warmup lap was faster then 3/4 of the fields best laps?

Jp

PS..Room for one more on our trip from Mass-a-chewz-itz to the track.
PM/Book before 10:30pm EDT tonight

[billm99uk]

Looks like another Team Andretti track...

[Myrvold]

With three Andretti cars on the front row they should at least be able to avoid a Vasser-Fernandez-Herta issue. [Watching that clip I think we have conclusive proof that commentary-wise, Scott Goodyear never had it. "Well something's obviously gone wrong".]

I'm just barely able to hear it here where I am right now. But did he say that it was possibly the best grid ever seen in motor racing, just before they crashed?

[Risil]

Think that was Bob Varsha, but yes.

[PayasYouRace]

Reminder of UK times: ESPN - 7/7 @ 17:00 (L) // 9/7 @14:00 (RR) // 10/7 @ 21:30 (H) // 11/7 @ 11:45 (H)

[teejay]

Well on my way to the prediction of Marco threatening to win

[jonpollak]

the crew has made their hex bet....
we are rolling.

Jp

[OfficeLinebacker]

You picked Sato.

[Andrew Hope]

Why not Sato?

[Risil]

My futuresight tells me it'll be Saavedra. For the win, TK.

[jonpollak]

We're HERE...!!!!



And HELLO from a fine and sunny infield parking spot inside Turn2.
Time to tune in the German Grand Prix and give my greenhorn, never been to a race,crew guys the lowdown about trackside etiquette and explain to them why we are NOT at the FourSeasons hotel in Philly.


Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 07 July 2013 - 11:30.