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[Alan Cox]

Not one of my photos, but I have just received this one from Simon Arron, who was a guest of Toyota to view the 'new' Fuji circuit. He said that he was more interested in seeking out the old track and thought the banking might be of interest - particularly with the tree growing on the clipping point!

For me there is little that is more evocative than a deserted and derelict racing circuit - even one so relatively modern as Fuji.

Photo Simon Arron

[j-ickx-fan]

Not my photos neither but a friend of mine found these slide photos when he was sorting all the things he got when his father passed away. As colored photos are not very easy to find from this era (Belgian GP 1962) I thought I would share them with you. Hope you enjoy them.



Must be after the start, Graham Hill leads the pack at the Eau Rouge.



Same place with Ricardo Rodriguez, Phil Hill and Innes Ireland.



Jim Clark, Trevor Taylor and Willy Mairesse I think.



And finally, Innes Ireland.

[2F-001]

Originally posted by Alan Cox
- particularly with the tree growing on the clipping point!

Err... surely not - unless you were staying well off the banked part of the track?

Are you in regular contact with Simon Arron? I imagine he'd be a great asset around these parts... always enjoyed his writing.

[Barry Boor]

Mr. Ickx-fan, many thanks for posting those photos. EXCELLENT!

The one of Innes on his own, when viewed full-size, is superb.

[Alan Cox]

Quite, Tony. I don't know how much of the banking effect was used in that particular bend, but I agree one shouldn't be that low down in the corner.

I am in touch with Simon, and he is aware of various mentions and support for his journalistic efforts on TNF. However, I don't think he has time to indulge in posting his "four pennyworth" at present. I agree it would be most welcome if he could ever find the time as he is a dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast who still recalls fondly his youth spent at places like Longridge, Oulton and Aintree.

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Barry Boor

The one of Innes on his own, when viewed full-size, is superb.

Agreed; they all are really - so I took a while and gave them some 'TLC'...










BTW I'll be emailing Simon tonight or tomorrow about something completely different, so I'll give him a shove re TNF while I'm at it.

[Stoatspeed]

Originally posted by Alan Cox
I am in touch with Simon, and he is aware of various mentions and support for his journalistic efforts on TNF. However, I don't think he has time to indulge in posting his "four pennyworth" at present. I agree it would be most welcome if he could ever find the time as he is a dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast who still recalls fondly his youth spent at places like Longridge, Oulton and Aintree.

It would indeed be appropriate, in these crazy times for our sport, to hear the views of a man who had the foresight to write a column under the title "Arront Nonsense". Removing the pun, I think that arrant nonsense is pretty much SOP for the FOM crowd these days ... witness the current Michael Turner thread ....

[j-ickx-fan]

I have another color photo from the same race (Belgium GP 1962) I guess, but it shows a car upside down in flames but I don't know if it is "decent" to post such photo in this thread.

[Twin Window]

Would that have been Willy Mairesse, or was that another year?

Whoever; go ahead and post it - I can always change things if the need arises.

[scheivlak]

Originally posted by Twin Window
Agreed; they all are really - so I took a while and gave them some 'TLC'...

Fan-tastic!
BTW - look at those photographers at the inside of the track!

[Stoatspeed]

Originally posted by Twin Window
Agreed; they all are really - so I took a while and gave them some 'TLC'...

Great shots and a nice enhancement job, Twinny
Love the attitudes of the cars - body roll, drifting ... terrific stuff

Clearly, you had to be brave to be in the press corps in those days - witness the gentleman in the brown shirt in the third shot! Innes is aiming right for him, and I think in the shot above, Willy Mairesse's Ferrari probably put a wheel or two over the very place he is crouching!
Telephoto lenses are great, but there is no substitute for getting in with the action, but I suppose protecting the people is important too!

Dave

EDIT: That'll teach me to type faster ... sorry to repeat scheivlak's comment!

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Stoatspeed

Great shots and a nice enhancement job, Twinny

Thanks, but the raw material was very good in the first place. Almost publishable, in fact.

In these situations, it's the cleaning of the images (something you can either do superficially, or thoroughly) that takes the time and effort, hence my 'TLC' remark!

[j-ickx-fan]

OK so here is the last photo.
As Twinny said, I think it is Willy Mairesse Ferrari 156 after the accident in which Trevor Taylor was also involved. You can see all the public behind the smoke.

Sorry for only posting the scanned raws but I don't have time to edit them.
And Twinny does it so well

[FLB]

There's a black & white picture of that incident in Schlegelmilch's Portaits of the 60s Formula 1, but I don't think I'd ever seen a colour picture of it before

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by FLB

...I don't think I'd ever seen a colour picture of it before

I don't think I have either...

[Barry Boor]

Quite astounding that Willy got out of that one with so little personal damage.

I know he was thrown clear but still.....

[Twin Window]

Exactly; it beggars belief...

[rdmotorsport]

and they say nostalga is not what it used to be!
wonderful photographic memories, yes I suppose we did still love brands on wet,cold early spring days,we must have done I remember attending 1974 ROC meeting with my new Triumph 2.5PI and if it was not for a couple of local tractors would still be there in the paddock mud!,only Mike Wilds got away swiftly after the meeting but he chose a 750 Kawasaki as his mode of transport and rather hotel it stayed in the transporter,cannot imagine current stars doing that. If anyone as any photos of 1983 and 84 British and European F3 please post them with the rest also early 90 s British f3000.
Again my thanks for such great shots.

Rodney Dodson.

[Macca]

There are a lot of b/w pictures of the Mairesse-Taylor shunt in The Cruel Sport by Daley, and there are a couple of colour ones in The New Matadors by Purdy with photos by Baumann - here is what the crowd in the smoke were looking at, Taylor talking to Ted Woodley, Cedric Selzer and Bob Dance beside the remains of the 24; meanwhile Mairesse was being carried to the ambulance on the other side of the track.




(the colour is a bit garish, but it IS a 1964 book - my software can't do much with it)


Paul M

[Arjan de Roos]

Originally posted by Twin Window
I don't think I have either...

Nope, me neither. Only B&W. In fact detailed shots of the underside of the 156, but that is the modeler in me I guess.
How Willy survived? Don't know either, but his nick name Wild Willy was on a rise.

BTW J-ickx-fan: Any pics of Carel Godin de Beaufort (Porsche 718 F2)?

BTW2: Nice avatar Twinny!!

[Macca]

Another photo from The New Matadors:



Paul M

[j-ickx-fan]

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos


Nope, me neither. Only B&W. In fact detailed shots of the underside of the 156, but that is the modeler in me I guess.
How Willy survived? Don't know either, but his nick name Wild Willy was on a rise.

BTW J-ickx-fan: Any pics of Carel Godin de Beaufort (Porsche 718 F2)?

BTW2: Nice avatar Twinny!!

I posted all photos I received
But my friend is still sorting all the stuff he got from his father's house so who knows ?

With Twinny's new avatar it seems that I talk to myself

[Twin Window]

Just came across this pic I took of my brother en route to a class win on the 1988 Welsh Rally;



He appears to be on his second loop...

Taken at Llandow, IIRC.

[Gary C]

'Ted Woodley, Cedric Selzer and Bob Dance'
Certainly Ted Woodley and Cedric, but I don't think it's Bob Dance on the far right, too early for him. Didn't Cedric used to post here? He'd be able to enlighten us.

[Andrew Kitson]

A few I have dug out looking for FF2000 pics for Cirrus. Not brilliant but they bring back those memories anyway.

BTCC at Mallory in 1980.


Again Mallory - the rear end of the 1978 Aurora Group 8 grid.


Special saloons at Silverstone in '78, Whiting on pole.


Mike Blanchet's works Lola F3 car, Silverstone 1980. The guy in the hat was Mike's father-in-law,
Tom, a super chap. Everytime Mike won, either in FF1600, FF2000 or Sports 2000, Tom would
throw his hat high in the air 'Chapman' style.


Clubmans at Becketts in '83. Creighton Brown leads one of Hugh Chamberlain's cars.


A soggy FF1600 start at Silverstone in March '84. John Village won from pole in the new Royale RP36.


Ah... Formula Libre...bring it back! Sugden's Esprit head to head with Tim Barry's March in 1986.


As I say, not brilliant pics, but great days..

[Alan Cox]

Great days indeed, Andrew. Thanks for posting them. It's not always the quality that counts, but they're a record of a time that can never be recreated.

Excuse me while I weep into my beer!

[Alan Cox]

A couple of reminders of Kim Mather and Alo Lawler in their Formula Atlantic days. Both from 1981. Without reference to the programme, is the Mather car the B41? I didn't recall it at all until I happened upon this string of negs from an Oulton Atlantic race.

[Mallory Dan]

Good God Alan !!! What is that libre No. 29 ???????? I'm at a complete loss. Aycliffe suggests Kim, but the car doesn't look like the 792 he had in 1981, nor the 802 in 1980. I'm not sure what it is, the nose looks March-ish, the body doesn't.

The number may be a clue, Warren Booth usually ran as no. 29 for some reason. Its not Kim in Warren's Chevron B48 is it, with his Aycliffe backing 'stickered-on' for one race. Any more info chaps??

[Andrew Kitson]

I think it may be the B48 in 1980 - sure from somewhere I recall Warren's car was a long wheelbase version.

[Mallory Dan]

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Great days indeed, Andrew. Thanks for posting them. It's not always the quality that counts, but they're a record of a time that can never be recreated.

Excuse me while I weep into my beer!

Hear, hear Alan, wonderful stuff, esp the Mallory ones! Was the soggy Silverstone FF race at the Int Trophy meeting that year? I recall seeing the 2 Ralt Hondas come past at the end of the first lap, miles ahead, and thinking... this is going to be dull. It was, until the last lap chicane job!

[Andrew Kitson]

Originally posted by Mallory Dan


Hear, hear Alan, wonderful stuff, esp the Mallory ones! Was the soggy Silverstone FF race at the Int Trophy meeting that year? I recall seeing the 2 Ralt Hondas come past at the end of the first lap, miles ahead, and thinking... this is going to be dull. It was, until the last lap chicane job!

No, the FF race was at the opening F3 meeting won by Dumfries I think.
The F2 race in April was held in the dry until a few laps in, when it started snowing!
Flippin freezing I remember that..
Very much like the International Trophy in '73 when Ronnie lost it in a snow shower.

I was watching this F2 race the other day, still have the VHS.

[MCS]

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Good God Alan !!! What is that libre No. 29 ???????? I'm at a complete loss. Aycliffe suggests Kim, but the car doesn't look like the 792 he had in 1981, nor the 802 in 1980. I'm not sure what it is, the nose looks March-ish, the body doesn't.

The number may be a clue, Warren Booth usually ran as no. 29 for some reason. Its not Kim in Warren's Chevron B48 is it, with his Aycliffe backing 'stickered-on' for one race. Any more info chaps??

Seconded. A Chevron with a March nose and (maybe) different sidepods...

[David Lawson]

I think I took these at the August Bank Holiday meeting at Brands Hatch in 1980 but typically my memory fails me and of course I didn't take any notes as usual.







David

[Alan Cox]

The Kim Mather photo is of him racing in the British Formula Atlantic round at Oulton, 17 October 1981, and the car is entered as a Chevron B48CB (!) No reference to it in David Gordon's book. The B48 was an F2 car raced by Patrese.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by David Lawson
I think I took these at the August Bank Holiday meeting at Brands Hatch in 1980 but typically my memory fails me and of course I didn't take any notes as usual.

[David

The "Auntie Rover" is Rex Greenslades as he drove The Motor entry, the Capris Gordon Spice, Colin Vandervell? Looks like the Celica is hidden behind in one shot....Win Percy?

My memory, there was a day a could have named them all......now, what did I come upstairs for???

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

Could the B48CB refer to Colin Bennett ?

[Alan Cox]

Could be, Edward. I'm sure someone here will know for certain. Dan???

[Mallory Dan]

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Could be, Edward. I'm sure someone here will know for certain. Dan???

This gets more mysterious! That race was the final FAt round of the season that year (I was in France at the time grape-picking...). Seems that the car was the Booth B48, which I think Colin Bennett did run for Warren in various Libres that year, and was certainly well modified from the standard 1979-spec B48. OTOH it was B48-01, ex Rahal.

As a guess, Kim may have been contracted by Aycliffe to do the race. He'd by then had given up on the Jim Evans owned March 792, so borrowed the B48 from his mate Warren B, and put his own Atlantic engine into it for a one-off race. Kim also had had dealings with Colin Bennett, so the whole thing makes some sense.

Where the 'March 802-ish' nose comes from is another matter - the Bennepaldi perhaps...

[cstlhn]

Three from Watkins Glen in 1964.

[Twin Window]

Great images, cstlhn! Thank you...

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by cstlhn
Three from Watkins Glen in 1964.

The Brabham photo is from 1966 methinks ;)
Nice photos.. thanks for posting 'em
Rob

[Roger Clark]

Originally posted by Rob Ryder

The Brabham photo is from 1966 methinks ;)

Why do you say that? It's a Climax engine and he wouldn't be talking to a Dunlop technician in '66.

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by Roger Clark

Why do you say that? It's a Climax engine and he wouldn't be talking to a Dunlop technician in '66.

Roger, complete brain fade on my part
Am I banned from TNF for such a stupid error
Rob

[Barry Boor]

Not banned - suspended for 3 minutes.

You have served the suspension already!

[Gary C]

great piccies! That last one is a cracker!

[Terry Walker]

I was given a bunch of box brownie pics, taken by Bob Biltoft at Caversham, which contained these gems on a theme:



(That's Bob's own Peugot 203 racer)



Harley Pederick practicing the waltz.



Unidentified Cortina going gardening.



Syd Negus's repco Holden engined Cooper Bristol. That's not Syd standing beside it.



This one's from Albany around the houses; Dave Sullivan's ditched Holden



And finally Ray Barfield's DB3S after a disagreement with a small tree at the Albany hillclimb.

I should stress that no racing drivers werre harmed in the making of these pictures...

[cosworth bdg]

I think we all have bad days at the office once in a while...................

[Twin Window]

Those pics need to be here in the 'Personal photos from the track' thread, Terry.

(BTW, I've replaced the duplicated pic with the correct one.)

[Terry Walker]

Thanks, Twinny - quite right. I should have thought of it myself.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Roger Clark
Why do you say that? It's a Climax engine and he wouldn't be talking to a Dunlop technician in '66.

Looks like Roy Billington to me... or am I wrong too?