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[fil2.8]

Originally posted by picblanc


Where is this one taken then Phil?
I saw Fredddie Spencer at Silverstone get that crap bike up to fifth place in 1981(before it went pop!!)

I was waiting for you to tell me !! Your powers of observation are leaving you It's at Thruxton the last time I saw him about 18 months after I stopped supporting him so it
would be 1985/6 .Got to go out for a bit see you

[picblanc]

Originally posted by fil2.8
I was waiting for you to tell me !! Your powers of observation are leaving you It's at Thruxton the last time I saw him about 18 months after I stopped supporting him so it
would be 1985/6 .Got to go out for a bit see you

Bottle of Baileys is a bit of a hindrance mate!!

[fil2.8]

Originally posted by picblanc


Bottle of Baileys is a bit of a hindrance mate!!

Sorry have you written that twice

[Macca]

Looks a bit like Union Mills.....

Paul M

[Herr Wankel]

One last one before I have my Horlicks;
Nothing quite as good as a flat twin outfit(unless its a flat 4)
HWhttp://www.southern100.com/engl00.jpg

[YamMan]

Originally posted by Herr Wankel


I am a pictorial virgin so I dont know if this will work,so here goes.
Its Uncle Bill getting a bit wild but where?
I think going pop was the NRs best feature,although the Kat had one good result on it(probably the only time it stayed together)
HW

Looks like it might be Church Bends on the Southern 100 course?.......

[Herr Wankel]

http://img164.images...e=engl00qg2.jpg
Think I cocked up the pasting of the previous one.Doh!

Quite right YamMan,Have you ridden there
HW

[YamMan]

Quite right YamMan,Have you ridden there
HW [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, I have HW - over a quarter of a century ago! 1979/80 if memory serves me. For once I had a "home" advantage for that picture as I live in the IOM.

Dave.

[ex Rhodie racer]

Originally posted by picblanc


OK Rhodie, perhaps I should of made it clear, on the far left in purple T shirt, is the Whitham T shirt I had!

Oh dear, I´m a bit slow aren´t I.

[ianric]

Following on from recent thread regarding riders who have tried their hand at 2 & 3 wheeled sport...

Chris Vincent, British 125cc champion against Bill Ivy and winner of innumerable races at all levels in sidecars
Mick Broom, who I believe held club cicuit lap records simultaneously at Cadwell on two & three wheels
Les Judkins, still racing, although I believe on two wheels only now.

[Russell Burrows]

Originally posted by ianric
Following on from recent thread regarding riders who have tried their hand at 2 & 3 wheeled sport...

Chris Vincent, British 125cc champion against Bill Ivy and winner of innumerable races at all levels in sidecars
Mick Broom, who I believe held club cicuit lap records simultaneously at Cadwell on two & three wheels
Les Judkins, still racing, although I believe on two wheels only now.

Also, George O'Dell raced both, simultaneously I think. Owen Greenwood - perhaps before his sidecar days.

[Russell Burrows]

Originally posted by Herr Wankel


I am a pictorial virgin so I dont know if this will work,so here goes.
Its Uncle Bill getting a bit wild but where?
I think going pop was the NRs best feature,although the Kat had one good result on it(probably the only time it stayed together)
HW

What induces someone to adopt the Freddie Frith cornering style?

[philippe7]

Originally posted by barrykm
One of my favourite riders from the eighties was Christian Sarron - what became of him?

Hi folks, very busy at the moment but can't leave this unanswered.....although I don't have any very recent infos, but last I heard Christian was still professionally involved with Yamaha France . He stopped his Grand Prix career at the end of the 1990 season to take up a role as racing activities manager or something, but he still put the helmet on now and then to enter selected races....most famously he won the 1994 Bol d'Or 24 hours endurance, partnering his brother Dominique on what was apparently a very emotional family achievement. A while later he also fulfiled an old dream by taking part , "just for pleasure" , in the 1996 Suzuka 8-hours with his long time Yamaha factory rider colleague and friend ( and fellow old-age pensioner ;) ) Tadahiko Taira , onboard a tuned-up Yamaha 850 TRX (!) , finishing 24th .

http://www.motoracin...t/spl/968h.html

That was his last official race as far as I know, but since then he's appeared regularily in various "nostalgia" classic meetings aboard vintage factory Yamaha's - at the Coupes Moto-Légende, or the Spa biker's Classics like in the picture below from 2005 .....

http://www.bikersday...hristian_02.jpg

[PaulMB]

Again following on the thread of the riders on two and three wheels:-

Bob MacIntyre - passengered for Pip Harris once.

And didn't John Surtees passenger for his father, possibly grass track though?

Sorry, both are before this thread date, (1969 on), but hope you wont mind.

PaulMB

[picblanc]

Originally posted by PaulMB
Again following on the thread of the riders on two and three wheels:-

Bob MacIntyre - passengered for Pip Harris once.

And didn't John Surtees passenger for his father, possibly grass track though?

Sorry, both are before this thread date, (1969 on), but hope you wont mind.

PaulMB

Morning all! Paul, did you get to ask Paul Smart if his 1976 RG500 Suzuki sponsored? by Barry Sheene was Sheenes 1975 ex factory bike.
This one!! to jog all our ageing memories!




All photos copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

[PaulMB]

Hi all,

Yes, it was a bike secured for Paul by Barry, a "spare" machine that Barry had from the factory.

PaulMB

[antony duprat]

Originally posted by PaulMB
Again following on the thread of the riders on two and three wheels:-

Bob MacIntyre - passengered for Pip Harris once.

And didn't John Surtees passenger for his father, possibly grass track though?

Sorry, both are before this thread date, (1969 on), but hope you wont mind.

PaulMB

There was also the Austrian Sepp Doppler who was a 500GP racer in the 90's...

[antony duprat]

Originally posted by antony duprat


There was also the Austrian Sepp Doppler who was a 500GP racer in the 90's...

An don't forget a F1 Racer who go from 4 to 3 wheels: Ian Ashley

[renzo]

ok another from one of the old slides i am getting scanned.
i think it's around 1974? i was in the 250 race that day but not sure if it was a club/national etc race.
but someone may be able to recognise riders?.
is that marty lunde with the stars and stripes helmet?.

[ex Rhodie racer]

Originally posted by renzo
[B]ok another from one of the old slides i am getting scanned.
i think it's around 1974? i was in the 250 race that day but not sure if it was a club/national etc race.
but someone may be able to recognise riders?.
is that marty lunde with the stars and stripes helmet?.

Derick Catters on John Williams left, second row.
Dear me, who´s the fellow with the Yellow helmet and baby blue leathers? Seem totally oblivious of the fact that the race has been started.

[barrykm]

Originally posted by philippe7


Hi folks, very busy at the moment but can't leave this unanswered.....although I don't have any very recent infos, but last I heard Christian was still professionally involved with Yamaha France . He stopped his Grand Prix career at the end of the 1990 season to take up a role as racing activities manager or something, but he still put the helmet on now and then to enter selected races....most famously he won the 1994 Bol d'Or 24 hours endurance, partnering his brother Dominique on what was apparently a very emotional family achievement. A while later he also fulfiled an old dream by taking part , "just for pleasure" , in the 1996 Suzuka 8-hours with his long time Yamaha factory rider colleague and friend ( and fellow old-age pensioner ;) ) Tadahiko Taira , onboard a tuned-up Yamaha 850 TRX (!) , finishing 24th .

http://www.motoracin...t/spl/968h.html

That was his last official race as far as I know, but since then he's appeared regularily in various "nostalgia" classic meetings aboard vintage factory Yamaha's - at the Coupes Moto-Légende, or the Spa biker's Classics like in the picture below from 2005 .....

http://www.bikersday...hristian_02.jpg

Thanks for the update Philippe! Good to hear that he's still riding. I remember seeing him clowning around in the pits at Kyalami (1994 I think?), taking the mickey out of another rider, seemingly a great character.

[Russell Burrows]

Originally posted by renzo
ok another from one of the old slides i am getting scanned.
i think it's around 1974? i was in the 250 race that day but not sure if it was a club/national etc race.
but someone may be able to recognise riders?.
is that marty lunde with the stars and stripes helmet?.

With an Aermacchi and what appear to be a couple of Seeleys either side on the front row - gotta be a club meeting hasnt it?

I've no idea if this was ever done during this period - but is it a handicap race? The guys on the front row appear to be starting to push hard, whereas the others, particular blue leathers, seem less interested. On reflection seems a bit unlikely. Some of you may remember handicaps were commonly held for sidecar races in the early/ mid sixties.

[Herr Wankel]

Hi Russell,
Bill was never one for getting his arse off the seat much,and yes it does look a bit bizarre,but he probably won this one against pretty good opposition so it must have worked.Not pretty though is it?
HW

[TZ350]

Originally posted by renzo
ok another from one of the old slides i am getting scanned.
i think it's around 1974? i was in the 250 race that day but not sure if it was a club/national etc race.
but someone may be able to recognise riders?.
is that marty lunde with the stars and stripes helmet?.

Hi renzo better the guy in blue leathers being caught out by the lights/ dropped flag than the guy on the blue TZ jumping the lights in this one! Guess who?

[TZ350]

Ok my 1st www, where I think is obvious, who are the 2 riders talking? one I think had support from Barry

[ex Rhodie racer]

Dennis Ireland with his back to us?

[knickerbrook]

I think I can I.D. the bloke nodding off on the second row (number 121). Looks very much like Roger Martin astride his ex-Derek Best Petty Manx (bike later aquired by Richardd Cutts I believe, although he mostly rode his Seeley at the time). 103 looks like Ron Mellor (on his ex-Sanby Kuhn Seeley) - seemingly wearing white overalls over his leathers???

PS: The name Chris Bladon rings a bell for that nice Seeley on the front row (104), but I'm not sure.

[renzo]

ok this is the same day but the 250 race.
thats me on the second row wearing a yellow anorak over my leathers.
one duke among all the yams!
awfull quality picture but ia m sure we can identify some?
that looks like steve goodrum on the right with the red and white suit.

[antony duprat]

Originally posted by renzo
ok this is the same day but the 250 race.
thats me on the second row wearing a yellow anorak over my leathers.
one duke among all the yams!
awfull quality picture but ia m sure we can identify some?
that looks like steve goodrum on the right with the red and white suit.

With a light modification

[renzo]

thats better

[picblanc]

Originally posted by renzo
ok another from one of the old slides i am getting scanned.
i think it's around 1974? i was in the 250 race that day but not sure if it was a club/national etc race.
but someone may be able to recognise riders?.
is that marty lunde with the stars and stripes helmet?.

Jeff Crookbain on the front row far right, and its Brian Flak behind in red and white helmet a la Chatterton.

The guy in stars and stripes is not Lunde I think I have a picture of him somewhere? Will have a look.

[TZ350]

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer
Dennis Ireland with his back to us?

No both british riders

[picblanc]

Originally posted by TZ350
Ok my 1st www, where I think is obvious, who are the 2 riders talking? one I think had support from Barry

Have we got to hold this one up to a mirror!!!

Cadwell park 1980/81 a Moriwaki Kawasaki in front so Gardners or Fruit and Veg Reg's bike, Steve Henshaw there also.

Dont recognize the riders but guy with beard....you Julian!?

[picblanc]

Originally posted by PaulMB
Hi all,

Yes, it was a bike secured for Paul by Barry, a "spare" machine that Barry had from the factory.

PaulMB

Well done Paul thanks for that!

[TZ350]

Originally posted by picblanc



Have we got to hold this one up to a mirror!!!

Cadwell park 1980/81 a Moriwaki Kawasaki in front so Gardners or Fruit and Veg Reg's bike, Steve Henshaw there also.

Dont recognize the riders but guy with beard....you Julian!?

yes to Cadwell, Nope not me ( I have abeard now but not then ) close to getting one fo the riders though Graham ;)

[Herr Wankel]

Evening all,
Could the hairy one be the much missed Cornishman,Les Burgan?
HW

[TZ350]

No Younger than Les

[fil2.8]

Originally posted by Herr Wankel
Evening all,
Could the hairy one be the much missed Cornishman,Les Burgan?
HW

Hi I was on those lines but surely he's a bit to tidy to be one of our best friends Les R.I.P.

[Herr Wankel]

Les was a top hillclimber before turning roadracer.True fearless Cornishman,as were Roy Opie,Paul Spargo,Stephen Sherbird,and Alan Benallick,to name just a few.

[fil2.8]

Originally posted by Herr Wankel
Les was a top hillclimber before turning roadracer.True fearless Cornishman,as were Roy Opie,Paul Spargo,Stephen Sherbird,and Alan Benallick,to name just a few.

And Jethro

[Herr Wankel]

Oh yes ,Forgot the other bearded one

[picblanc]

Tom Knight with beard...if not clue pleeeze!!!

[Russell Burrows]

Originally posted by Herr Wankel
Hi Russell,
Bill was never one for getting his arse off the seat much,and yes it does look a bit bizarre,but he probably won this one against pretty good opposition so it must have worked.Not pretty though is it?
HW

Hi Herr, Yeah, its obviously works for him. I saw a photo fairly recently of an even more extreme version of this sort of thing, again by someone on a 'classic' bike. I wonder if there is some theory behind it ? Actually it reminds me of the style of many Italian riders from the 50's and 60's - perhaps they were less extreme. I wonder why I attribute this only to Italians? Does anyone out there agree?

[PilotesdeLegende]

Originally posted by barrykm
One of my favourite riders from the eighties was Christian Sarron - what became of him?

Hello Barry, here a gift for you :



By pilotesdelegende at 2008-02-01


By pilotesdelegende, shot with NIKON D70 at 2008-02-01

[exclubracer]

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Hi Herr, Yeah, its obviously works for him. I saw a photo fairly recently of an even more extreme version of this sort of thing, again by someone on a 'classic' bike. I wonder if there is some theory behind it ? Actually it reminds me of the style of many Italian riders from the 50's and 60's - perhaps they were less extreme. I wonder why I attribute this only to Italians? Does anyone out there agree?

Definitely agree, I've seen a few shots of the great Renzo Pasolini and he seemed to prefer leaning the bike down towards the limit whilst keeping his body more upright.

Dunno if this was an Italian thing tho........

[fil2.8]

Hello is there anybody out there quite easy one for you

[Macca]

Fast Freddie on the Kanemoto 250 TZ in 1979 at Daytona.

'Den Boet' is the guy I always associated with 'pushing the bike down'.

Paul M

[fil2.8]

Originally posted by Macca
Fast Freddie on the Kanemoto 250 TZ in 1979 at Daytona.

'Den Boet' is the guy I always associated with 'pushing the bike down'.

Paul M

right right wrong right its 1980 !!! and its 750 not 250

[Russell Burrows]

Originally posted by exclubracer


Definitely agree, I've seen a few shots of the great Renzo Pasolini and he seemed to prefer leaning the bike down towards the limit whilst keeping his body more upright.

Dunno if this was an Italian thing tho........

Yes, Paso is a good example. Early on Agostini had a tendency to ride like that. If you look at photographs from much earlier, riders such as Pagani and Massetti also did it. To my mind it has always looked very unatural, and some of the more extreme exponents in present day classic racing look most odd indeed.

[picblanc]

Originally posted by picblanc



Have we got to hold this one up to a mirror!!!

Cadwell park 1980/81 a Moriwaki Kawasaki in front so Gardners or Fruit and Veg Reg's bike, Steve Henshaw there also.

Dont recognize the riders but guy with beard....you Julian!?

"Cannonball" must be out in his lorry!!? still guessing rider in white leathers, Steve Chambers?