1968 Graham Hill photo ID
#1
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:02
I am sure it is Crystal Palace, maybe a demo in late 1968 or early 1969. Does anyone have any more info? .. why, when etc.
Thanks
Rob
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#2
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:23
#3
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:30
It makes sense what you say, Ian - a late 1968 victorious homecoming type of thing. James had something similar at Brands, IIRC.
#4
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:45
#5
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:46
Was there a Ford Sport Day at Crystal Palace sometime in September/October? Quiet often there would be a demo of a Cosworth powered F1 car at such events.
#6
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:51
www.bmrc.co.uk/championships/cpalace.html
Looks as though it was the start of the London-Sydney Marathon, and Graham also drove Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
#7
Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:59
The wide front wings were used in the US (note that the bar joining the front wings is broken in this pic, with strange wing angles as a result).
My guess is that this picture is from late summer '68, or it could be some demo taking place later still, but in a car of "older" spec. But as the 49 was used in specs looking like this also in the 1969 Tasman series, it might be a demo of the 1969 Tasman spec 49.
#8
Posted 17 May 2006 - 10:59
IanOriginally posted by ian senior
Have a look at:
www.bmrc.co.uk/championships/cpalace.html
Looks as though it was the start of the London-Sydney Marathon, and Graham also drove Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
If it was at the Crystal Palace start of the Marathon it would be Sunday, November 24, 1968. It could be this event as the crowd look well wrapped up in overcoats.
Also the car is carrying #11 - Jackie Oliver's race number for the Mexican GP a few weeks earlier.
Rob
Edited with Mexican GP info before reading Ian's next post - sorry
#9
Posted 17 May 2006 - 11:02
Originally posted by Rob Ryder
Ian
If it was at the Crystal Palace start of the Marathon it would be Sunday, November 24, 1968.
Rob
Guess so. What date was the Mexican GP that year - surely before then? Presumably Graham was just demonstrating any old 49 that happened to be lying around, rather than the latest race car.
#10
Posted 17 May 2006 - 11:07
Originally posted by ian senior
What date was the Mexican GP that year - surely before then?
3rd November.
#11
Posted 17 May 2006 - 11:36
The London-Sydney Marathon sets off from Crystal Palace
" In an atmosphere of cheerful chaos, and in front of an absolutely astonishing crowd, 98 cars left Sydenham for Sydney........admission was free........80,000 people turned out................various side attractions were staged, including.....a straight-line dash by World Champion Graham Hill in the Formula 1 Lotus 49B......"
#12
Posted 18 May 2006 - 10:04
#13
Posted 02 June 2006 - 09:34
Jackie Oliver n° 11
Graham Hill n° 12
change the car in practice?
in F1 world championship 1968, Hill at never n° 11.
#14
Posted 02 June 2006 - 11:39
#15
Posted 02 June 2006 - 12:40
Originally posted by Rob Ryder
Bruno, it is already identified as Crystal Palace demonstration
sorry! ! ! i do not read English well
#16
Posted 02 June 2006 - 14:59
It was some years into the 1970s before this #1 business started - and I still don't like it!
#17
Posted 02 June 2006 - 16:17
I don't really care what numbering system they useOriginally posted by Barry Boor
Younger members may not altogether appreciate that being World Champion, as driver or constructor, bore no relation to the number your car might carry at any race back then.
It was some years into the 1970s before this #1 business started - and I still don't like it!
But I'd like to be able to see the numbers
#19
Posted 02 June 2006 - 18:45
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#20
Posted 03 June 2006 - 06:00
Or the end of (Esso) Golden?Originally posted by David McKinney
Is that the end of a 'Holden' sign?
#21
Posted 03 June 2006 - 08:09
#22
Posted 03 June 2006 - 08:43
#23
Posted 03 June 2006 - 11:24
#24
Posted 03 June 2006 - 12:08
#25
Posted 06 June 2006 - 18:38
Looks like I am not the only one that is out of ideas
We need a BRM guru...
Rob
#26
Posted 06 June 2006 - 20:39
#27
Posted 06 June 2006 - 20:49
Paul M
#28
Posted 06 June 2006 - 21:42
#29
Posted 06 June 2006 - 22:01
I suggested both Snetterton and Oulton when this picture was posted elsewhere! Like Alan I thought it was a 7 on the nose, which suggested Oulton. Equally, the banks being so close to the track suggested Snetterton. There's obviously some work going on in the background, but are they erecting or dismantling that Esso Extra hoarding? And what's that gear on the bank?
#30
Posted 06 June 2006 - 22:46
#31
Posted 03 November 2011 - 15:19
#32
Posted 03 November 2011 - 20:54
Today, 43 years ago, Hill clinched his second title in Mexico.
I remember watching the race on tv.
#33
Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:46
David