The Pete Fenelon and Michael Catsch (Tuboscocca) Memorial Book Thread
#5501
Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:36
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#5502
Posted 12 December 2010 - 14:31
I can do no better than to endorse all the above. A book to be treasured for many years.Tony Adriaensens new book, 'Ten Days in Sicily', was released today. The book, which took the author two years to put together, is a true gem. As we have come to expect from Tony, his latest work oozes quality. It is smaller in format than his wonderful 'Weekend Heroes' and therefore easier to handle. Color reproduction is just wonderful and the lay out is very tasteful. This beautiful book could even appeal to people with no interest in one of the most romantic and also dramatic periods of motorracing. Well done Tony, you're up there with the best!
Kind regards,
Mick
#5503
Posted 12 December 2010 - 16:31
I can do no better than to endorse all the above. A book to be treasured for many years.
I'm anxiously awaiting arrival of my copy. I ordered it pre-publication, so thought I would have received it by now.
Jack.
#5504
Posted 12 December 2010 - 16:50
I'm anxiously awaiting arrival of my copy. I ordered it pre-publication, so thought I would have received it by now.
Jack.
I ordered a copy for my wife to give me for Christmas it took about ten days to arrive and turned up last week
#5505
Posted 12 December 2010 - 18:29
I ordered a copy for my wife to give me for Christmas it took about ten days to arrive and turned up last week
How was the packaging? My copy of Weekend Heroes was damaged because the box wasn't rigid enough to support the weight of the book during the abuse it must endure in transit. The book's thickness and weight, combined with the landscape format, puts a lot of torque on the spine and weakens the binding.
Jack.
#5506
Posted 12 December 2010 - 19:20
How was the packaging? My copy of Weekend Heroes was damaged because the box wasn't rigid enough to support the weight of the book during the abuse it must endure in transit. The book's thickness and weight, combined with the landscape format, puts a lot of torque on the spine and weakens the binding.
Jack.
Double wrapped in cardboard, the book wasn't damaged. It came from Holland according to the markings on the box. I did email them when the book hadn't arrived after a week , they never replied but it turned up on the following day anyway
#5507
Posted 12 December 2010 - 21:22
Well played!I ordered a copy for my wife to give me for Christmas
Tom
#5508
Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:15
Well played!
Tom
Works well for both of us
#5509
Posted 13 December 2010 - 11:51
Mine arrived within four days of ordering. Couriered and well packed.I'm anxiously awaiting arrival of my copy. I ordered it pre-publication, so thought I would have received it by now.
Jack.
#5510
Posted 14 December 2010 - 16:26
Edited by Bjørn Kjer, 14 December 2010 - 16:27.
#5511
Posted 14 December 2010 - 16:40
Frank
#5512
Posted 15 December 2010 - 00:12
Double wrapped in cardboard, the book wasn't damaged. It came from Holland according to the markings on the box. I did email them when the book hadn't arrived after a week , they never replied but it turned up on the following day anyway
I received a message from Tony today that the books were about two weeks behind schedule reaching him. I'm hoping mine is here by next weekend.
Jack.
#5513
Posted 15 December 2010 - 07:35
The Golden Era of New Zealand Motorracing by Graham Vercoe 1993???
Is it good?
Eoin Young does cite it in his Lady Wigram piece in Motorsport January 2011.
Thanks Michael
#5514
Posted 15 December 2010 - 17:46
Does anyone know or own this title??
The Golden Era of New Zealand Motorracing by Graham Vercoe 1993???
Is it good?
Eoin Young does cite it in his Lady Wigram piece in Motorsport January 2011.
Thanks Michael
I have the book and I love it. It opened a whole new racing scene for me at the time I bought it. Be aware though that the chassis number listing sometimes needs crosschecking.
#5515
Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:35
I have the book and I love it. It opened a whole new racing scene for me at the time I bought it. Be aware though that the chassis number listing sometimes needs crosschecking.
ERault--thank you!!
I didn't expect chassisnumbers in this book!! But now I will search a copy of this book!!
Thanks Michael
#5516
Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:23
I have the book and I love it. It opened a whole new racing scene for me at the time I bought it. Be aware though that the chassis number listing sometimes needs crosschecking.
Graham Vercoe's books - "Historic Racing Cars of New Zealand"(1991) and "The Golden Era of New Zealand Motor Racing" (1993) - are a serious effort at a history of the sport in New Zealand.
However, they include many errors and omissions, and some of the conclusions he draws are questionable. As a first point of reference they are useful, but a serious researcher might be well advised to check further. They contain a good selection of photographs, although some captions are suspect(not uncommon in motor racing books). If anyone finds a copy of the "Historic Cars.." the end-papers are noteworthy : photos of two race-starts at Ohakea air base, where the width of the runway allowed up to 17 cars on the front row of the grid - !
#5517
Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:47
A 320 page hardback with 200 illustrations, this book covers the story of the 500cc cars from their inception, to their acceptance as International Formula 3 and through to the modern day.
Further details at www.parleybooks.co.uk
#5518
Posted 20 December 2010 - 12:54
On a different note, I wish you all, in amongst the family and snow-clearing and equivalent southern hemisphere responsibilities, some quality reading time. It's been the usual pleasure conversing with you this year, and meeting a few of you too, and here's to more of the same in 2011.
Paul
#5519
Posted 20 December 2010 - 23:17
All the best to you and fellow TNF bookers.
Jack.
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#5520
Posted 20 December 2010 - 23:23
Let's just make sure we find somewhere more salubrious for lunch!We'll be back in 2012, God willing, and look forward to seeing you again.
#5521
Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:57
Could anyone who has purchased a copy of the above book please advise me of the address and/or email contact for the publisher, Parker House Publishing Inc, who, strangely, do not seem to have a website?
Hello Alan:
You have an email.
best regards,
Marc Sonnery
#5522
Posted 21 December 2010 - 17:52
As it will be my Christmas present by my wife, it will NOT be opened until Christmas Eve...
Merry Christmas too all bookcollectors on TNF
Michael
#5523
Posted 21 December 2010 - 19:15
Tim Parker can be found at Parker House Publishing, 321 W. Olive St., Stillwater, MN 55082 USA; 651/439-6112.
Frank
#5524
Posted 21 December 2010 - 20:00
#5525
Posted 21 December 2010 - 21:01
Sitting alongside the various other works covering that era and other regions in the US, ( McCluggage, Lynch/Edgar/Parravao, Vintage American Race Cars, Weekend Heroes, Art Evans et al, ) it finds a very comfortable place on my shelves.
Not cheap at full list price, the discounted price offers excellent value IMHO. Mr O'Neil has another work due in April, Runway Racers, the story of airfield tracks in the US.
The discount means that anyone who still has not bought Michael Oliver's Tales from a Toolbox can almost steal it now.
Usual Disclaimers
Roger Lund
BTW, for anyone wanting a comprehensive history of the rise and development of sports car racing in the US in the 50s and 60s in magazine article form would be wise to find copies of the last two issues of Vintage Racecar where the subject is covered in depth by TNF's very own Tom Schultz.
#5526
Posted 21 December 2010 - 21:41
Thanks much for the plug, Roger, I appreciate it. To be specific, my article is on the history of the short lived USAC Road Racing Division. This was the first attempt at a regular series of pro road races in the US. There had been the occasional one-offs before, plus Sebring, but USAC was the first to try a series. It lasted from 1958 through 1962. Vintage Racecar ran my article in two parts, in the November and December issues.BTW, for anyone wanting a comprehensive history of the rise and development of sports car racing in the US in the 50s and 60s in magazine article form would be wise to find copies of the last two issues of Vintage Racecar where the subject is covered in depth by TNF's very own Tom Schultz.
Tom
#5527
Posted 21 December 2010 - 22:06
Roger
#5528
Posted 22 December 2010 - 01:40
Tom
#5529
Posted 22 December 2010 - 10:09
Many thanks for that, Frank. Marc Sonnery has kindly sorted out my query, for which many thanks.Alan:
Tim Parker can be found at Parker House Publishing, 321 W. Olive St., Stillwater, MN 55082 USA; 651/439-6112.
#5530
Posted 22 December 2010 - 19:25
Motor Racing – The Pursuit of Victory 1930-1962
Motor Racing – The Pursuit of Victory 1963-1972
which look to be nice companions to Motor Racing - Reflections of a lost era!!!
#5531
Posted 22 December 2010 - 20:17
Roger Lund
#5532
Posted 24 December 2010 - 17:22
The former by Anthony Carter, and the latter by Steve Wyatt of Quilter House Photoarchives. BTW is he any relation to the old Wyatts of Diss?.
Roger Lund
Anthony Carter's book well worth a look. Lovely previously unpublished paddock and atmospheric shots.
Steve Wyatt is organiser and co-founder of Fressingfield Oily Rag Club who present terrific "guest speaker" events during the winter months (see http://forums.autosp...l=fressingfield ).
Having seen some of his Quilter House selection, I am sure the forthcoming title will be a great read.
I am a regular attendee at FORC meetings,as is Anthony Carter,so could be a little biased!
Compliments of the season to all.
Stephen
No relation as far as I know.
Edited by mgtd, 24 December 2010 - 18:49.
#5533
Posted 24 December 2010 - 17:28
Taking advantage of Veloce's excellent 45% discount offer, until December 31st
The discount means that anyone who still has not bought Michael Oliver's Tales from a Toolbox can almost steal it now.
Usual Disclaimers
Roger Lund
Roger - I can't seem to find a discount on Veloce's website, where did you find it or did you receive a discount code?
Many thanks
Matt
#5534
Posted 26 December 2010 - 19:04
Thanks.
Cris
Roger - I can't seem to find a discount on Veloce's website, where did you find it or did you receive a discount code?
Many thanks
Matt
#5535
Posted 27 December 2010 - 16:25
This is the complete package. Like any motorsport history, from the date of publication onwards, new data will become available and I am already noticing minor additions I could have made in my own meagre contribution, limited to just one narrow area. For popular appeal it necessarily has to draw on the experiences of the top drivers (but who could have expected quite so much background on Ari Vatanen's first trip to Britain, or that the man himself would so promptly agree to turn up in Brecon earlier this year for the launch?).
That the "Welsh" was "the Clubman's International" is well known to all those who ever took part - and, with 240 accepted entries over each of several years, that is a lot of people. This book brings home to a more modern readership the addictive attraction rallying once was and how achievable the highest levels were. It was never possible for the ordinary club driver to take part in International races in the same way and racing history is now written mostly by those who watched rather than "did". That is not to neglect the Welsh Rally spectators and the extent of their committment and specialist knowledge is well covered. In some respects a sad contrast with today, when lager-swilling morons are putting at risk the use of some of the very same North Wales forests and the far more socially acceptable mountain bikers are taking over so many classic forest stages elsewhere.
If you want to understand the appeal of rallying and are not one of the overwhelming majority of club competitors who took part in this branch of the sport rather than any other, read this book if you read no other book on rallying. It will help understanding of why the devil we ever did it. As the late Dave Finch once said after several beers: "If we didn't do it, we'd have nothing to talk about for the rest of the year".
The Welsh has inevitably gone the way of the Liege, the Gulf London and the "old" RAC. Big brother won't trust us to be out of bed for even one night these days. Read this book to remember or learn the way it once was. No one is going to get rich from you doing so but it might encourage others to take on similar tasks. Now, who's for the Gulf London...?
Edited by RS2000, 27 December 2010 - 16:32.
#5536
Posted 28 December 2010 - 17:20
Mine arrived on the 23rd, also a Christmas present from my wife, I had given up hope as the 24th is a bank holiday here. I understand the supplier only received them on the 14th.Just received 15 Kilograms from France (3 volumes Le Mans Encyclopedia).
As it will be my Christmas present by my wife, it will NOT be opened until Christmas Eve...
Merry Christmas too all bookcollectors on TNF
Michael
It looks as though they have a lot more information than the earlier 1923-1992 two volume edition. Not sure about the hardback, would have liked something more conventional, albeit I imagine this cover is probably considerably more durable.
#5537
Posted 28 December 2010 - 17:56
Mine arrived on the 23rd, also a Christmas present from my wife, I had given up hope as the 24th is a bank holiday here. I understand the supplier only received them on the 14th.
It looks as though they have a lot more information than the earlier 1923-1992 two volume edition. Not sure about the hardback, would have liked something more conventional, albeit I imagine this cover is probably considerably more durable.
Congratulations Milestone!!
I looked through all three on three evenings , and despite slight 'disturbance of blood' in the upper legs, due to the weight--I AM DELIGHTED!!!
For me the BEST book at least of the year. And the masses of new and obscure photos are amazing.
I think, although not clothbound, the binding and paper are solid enough for frequent use!!
Now we have to find someone who makes a supplement tome on the Pre-tests and the 4 hour races held before the 24 Heures
All the best Michael
#5538
Posted 28 December 2010 - 17:59
Mine arrived on the 23rd, also a Christmas present from my wife, I had given up hope as the 24th is a bank holiday here. I understand the supplier only received them on the 14th.
It looks as though they have a lot more information than the earlier 1923-1992 two volume edition. Not sure about the hardback, would have liked something more conventional, albeit I imagine this cover is probably considerably more durable.
Sorry,
I got mine from Palmier (Nimes , France) --and yours??
Michael
#5539
Posted 28 December 2010 - 18:23
Hi Michael, Mine came direct from Le Mans Racing in Le Mans. Must say, they were really well packed with 50mm of polystyrene surrounding them.Sorry,
I got mine from Palmier (Nimes , France) --and yours??
Michael
I've cross referenced a few years, certainly a lot more photos than the original 1923-1992 volumes. Many weeks of reading ahead of me. Happy reading to you as well.
Incidentally, it would appear that they have only sold 50 or so of the 500 aluminium covered €1000 limited edition variety.
Edited by milestone 11, 28 December 2010 - 18:26.
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#5540
Posted 28 December 2010 - 23:50
1) What is the status of the second volume of "Sunset On Kyalami"?
2) Are there any substantial differences between "Grand Prix Suisse" and "Swiss Made Grand Prix 1931-1954"? They are both by Cimarosti and have the same page count. Is "Swiss Made Grand Prix" a straight (albeit two-volume) reprint of "Grand Prix Suisse", or does it contain different material?
Thanks in advance for any info!
#5541
Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:15
Hi Michael, Mine came direct from Le Mans Racing in Le Mans. Must say, they were really well packed with 50mm of polystyrene surrounding them.
I've cross referenced a few years, certainly a lot more photos than the original 1923-1992 volumes. Many weeks of reading ahead of me. Happy reading to you as well.
Incidentally, it would appear that they have only sold 50 or so of the 500 aluminium covered €1000 limited edition variety.
Thank you Milestone!!
Seems that the package was made at the printers-perfect with polysterene padding...
So you bought at Sophie...I reserved mine at the Retromobile in Paris..
Yes certainly month of reading.
IMHO the luxury version with metal slipcase and additional slipcases for each volume is a bit 'over the top' and 700 Euros more..
Best regards Michael
#5542
Posted 29 December 2010 - 07:19
Two questions about books....
1) What is the status of the second volume of "Sunset On Kyalami"?
2) Are there any substantial differences between "Grand Prix Suisse" and "Swiss Made Grand Prix 1931-1954"? They are both by Cimarosti and have the same page count. Is "Swiss Made Grand Prix" a straight (albeit two-volume) reprint of "Grand Prix Suisse", or does it contain different material?
Thanks in advance for any info!
Helioseism,
Gary Kegel (author of Sunset) told me-Volume II depends on sponsoring or fund raising (he has even closed down his homepage).
The Cimarosti book: I do not think that's a reprint, as it seems to deal with motor cycles too...
My book dealer friend has it, but he has not the Suisse GP to compare...
Best regards Michael
#5543
Posted 29 December 2010 - 10:29
Helioseism,
Gary Kegel (author of Sunset) told me-Volume II depends on sponsoring or fund raising (he has even closed down his homepage).
The Cimarosti book: I do not think that's a reprint, as it seems to deal with motor cycles too...
My book dealer friend has it, but he has not the Suisse GP to compare...
Best regards Michael
The "Swiss Made" books deal exclusively with the Bern motorsport events (also bikes). Both "GP Suisse" and "Swiss Made" are wonderful publications.
Best regards,
Mick
#5544
Posted 29 December 2010 - 12:59
Taking advantage of Veloce's excellent 45% discount offer, until December 31st, I received today, despite the 10" of snow which has fallen and stayed hereabouts since ordering the book, my copy of Terry O'Neil's Northeast American Sports Car Races 1950-1959. Covering an era and area in which I am not too knowledgeable, for me it is exactly what the title says. With a huge photo gallery, many in colour, of marques and models with which I am familiar, and a good selection of those which are new to me, it represents an ideal reference work, supported by full details of the circuits and people, plus a full schedule of race results.
Sitting alongside the various other works covering that era and other regions in the US, ( McCluggage, Lynch/Edgar/Parravao, Vintage American Race Cars, Weekend Heroes, Art Evans et al, ) it finds a very comfortable place on my shelves.
Not cheap at full list price, the discounted price offers excellent value IMHO. Mr O'Neil has another work due in April, Runway Racers, the story of airfield tracks in the US.
The discount means that anyone who still has not bought Michael Oliver's Tales from a Toolbox can almost steal it now.
Usual Disclaimers
Roger Lund
BTW, for anyone wanting a comprehensive history of the rise and development of sports car racing in the US in the 50s and 60s in magazine article form would be wise to find copies of the last two issues of Vintage Racecar where the subject is covered in depth by TNF's very own Tom Schultz.
I have received the Terry O'Neill US spoprts Car Racing book - an excellent bit of research giving masses of details esp the full results, and photos. My "book of the year"
RAP
#5545
Posted 30 December 2010 - 09:46
I do wish Veloce spent a bit more on a publisher's editor and a little less on the quality of the paper/printing when they publish their major works on motoring history (and, yes, I have suggested that to them directly). If they did, perhaps they wouldn't have to remainder/discount quite so soon.
#5546
Posted 30 December 2010 - 11:52
#5547
Posted 30 December 2010 - 12:54
Hi Michael, Don't know if you're aware, Inside the envelope with any customs declaration there is an official Le Mans racing invoice. Mine is No. 28 so clearly these books were only available from the 17th December. Regards.Thank you Milestone!!
Seems that the package was made at the printers-perfect with polysterene padding...
So you bought at Sophie...I reserved mine at the Retromobile in Paris..
Yes certainly month of reading.
IMHO the luxury version with metal slipcase and additional slipcases for each volume is a bit 'over the top' and 700 Euros more..
Best regards Michael
#5548
Posted 30 December 2010 - 19:19
I would expect the errors to be carried forward in that book, as it was even called a reprint.The errors in Boddy's Montlhéry book were all carried over from the original Cassell edition from the early 60s which I doubt sold many copies at full price either - I'd guess they just OCR'ed the text and reset it unedited. If you come across period adverts for the Motoraces Book Club you'll find they were offering it at a very low price and I suspect they had bought the remainder stock from Cassell.
However they published a second edition of Barrie Price's book on Lea-Francis but again they carried the errors forward where the text had not been changed, and added some more in the new bits including some hilariously illiterate captions - Barrie, like many left-handers, has rather difficult handwriting but the trypist has not even tried to make words from what (s)he saw. They saw fit to transcribe a typewritten letter of costings into a facsimile but left a line out - easily spotted as shillings part of the sums of money don't add up.
#5549
Posted 31 December 2010 - 07:27
But what is it about? Presenting every starting team in picture and most non-starters (+90 %) is a gem. Some of the entries has their race tales told, others disapoingtantly not. Notes on changes in regulations it has, and something was new to me. Already familiar with the ACO-affilliated Quentin Spurring book about Le Mans 1960s, I would supect that this would make the ACO tomb worthwile over time, as a Spurring 1970s and 1950s should be available during the next few mounths. As of now I'm rather hesitant to recommend the three-volume ACO set, as I suspect that the coming Spurring decade-by-decade (1949?!) would be a better deal for most.
As I'm a sucker for les 24 heures du Mans I don't mind paying the bill.
Jesper
#5550
Posted 31 December 2010 - 13:42
Jesper
Hello Jesper
as a 'sucker' of LM literature ,you certainly know:
24 Heures au Mans :1923-2010 published by the famous sportsdaily L'Equipe...
Nice photos.
Link: http://www.amazon.fr...2...2734&sr=8-1
Best regards Michael