The cutaway drawing and its artists
#11401
Posted 20 April 2012 - 21:32
The McLaren and the Porsche 962C will be among the next ones up, fyi.
Tom West
Betti,Bruno-Ferrari15685Formula1-1985
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#11402
Posted 20 April 2012 - 21:38
This is another piece from the Quattroruote 1985 Speciale Sport edition. This is one of the two 1985 Formula 1 cutaways, the Ferrari 156/85, from Bruno Betti.
Betti,Bruno-Ferrari15685Formula1-1985
What an eye popping beauty!
The size of that diffuser too.......................!
#11404
Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:43
Weired to see a cutaway of a car that never officially existed. I know that Walter Röhr made some top secret test drives with a prototype and there are a few very bad pictures of it. Does anybody here know the background of this drawing?
#11406
Posted 21 April 2012 - 16:59
Weired to see a cutaway of a car that never officially existed. I know that Walter Röhr made some top secret test drives with a prototype and there are a few very bad pictures of it. Does anybody here know the background of this drawing?
Duc,
This is just a part of a group of WRC illustrations that were included with the Quattroruote 1985 World Racing edition. Not being fluent in Italian (with the exception of Pizza, Marinara, and provolone ...), I don't think it gives much detail except to say that it is a prototype design. They put much more time in on the Peugeot and a couple of other cars that were the primary competitors, but this was a very interesting concept.
Tom West
#11407
Posted 21 April 2012 - 20:00
Ford Escort Mark III. Artist, unknown. Colour obscene. (Perhaps drawn by Terry Collins, but coloured by another).
Ford Escort MkIII by Chris Plant - see page 103 - post 4097
TNF cutaway index updated - page 280 up to this post.
Giant index - Part 3 lost format (can't fix it - the forum engine didn't accept) - Next update will have 4 parts.
Edited by ibsenop, 21 April 2012 - 20:47.
#11408
Posted 21 April 2012 - 20:50
This is the 1985 McLaren MP4-2B Formula 1. I have to say that I have liked all of these Formula 1 illustrations that we have seen. I certainly wish that it was possible for them to be done now, as we are really losing the technical heritage of this series.
Tom West
#11410
Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:06
We start with a bit cleaner piece from Giorgio Alisi, a relatively simple illustration of the mid-engined 1985 World Rally Championship Audi Quattro Sport. It certainly shows the layout of this interesting effort.
Tom West
Alisi,Giorgio-AudiQuattroSportWRCMidEngine-1985
is there a technical term for a 'very mid-engined' car? 'Central-engined', perhaps?
#11411
Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:21
There is some info on them if you google, in addition to some very good photos on a Facebook site
Unsigned and I dare not guess the artist's name, though I do see familiar style.
#11412
Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:54
Unsigned and I dare not guess the artist's name, though I do see familiar style.
Isotta Fraschini IM 1913 by Giulio Betti - was posted on page 105 but can not be seen again.
#11413
Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:21
#11415
Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:55
#11416
Posted 22 April 2012 - 13:27
No problemo, Karabas, but all three have been posted before - a long time ago now!
Hi Tony,
I have four more scans of your prints:
1952 BRM Mk1 V16
1955 Jaguar D-type
1955 Mercedes-Benz W196
and
Lancia D50A
Can I upload them here? The size of each - about 2300x1600
#11417
Posted 22 April 2012 - 13:45
Edited to say that the BRM V16 appears on pp9 and 207, and the others are there too.
Edited by Tony Matthews, 22 April 2012 - 13:48.
#11419
Posted 22 April 2012 - 17:36
is there a technical term for a 'very mid-engined' car? 'Central-engined', perhaps?
Interesting question, but there really are, technically, only front-, mid-, and rear-engined designations. When the drag racing world was going through this, the name rear-engined was applied to the new wave of cars starting in 1970-71. I had drawn a car that could have been a prototype to the "first" rear-engined car of Don Garlits, except that it was a Mark Williams car that debuted at the Winternationals in 1970, a year before the Swamp Rat really appeared. There were a few of us who had actually been involved in automotive engineering who were offended by the misnomer, so there was an article done for Drag Racing USA that tried to show the difference between a front-engined car (engine in front of the driver ... who sat sort of over the rear axle in the design), a mid-engined car (engine in front of the rear axle and behind the driver), and rear-engined car (engine behind the rear axle and the driver).
Being relatively unsophisticated in the outlook on such things, the behind the driver thing still carries the day, so the mid-engined dragsters of today are still considered to be rear-engined. No difference in the design, just the name.
Don't recall anything that indicated degree of mid-engined-ness ... or rear-engined-ness.
I am sure this clears things up greatly .. thanks for asking ...
Tom West
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#11420
Posted 22 April 2012 - 17:47
Those are FANTASTIC scans! I found that each one was better quality or larger size than my copies of the earlier postings. And low contrast is easily fixed by just about any image display program that all of us have. Thanks!!!
#11421
Posted 22 April 2012 - 17:55
Well, the colours are wrong. However, my point was that they have all been posted before. Not in this form, with the sideviews, I agree, but that is because the originals are my copyright, and as far as I know, these are not.I raised contrast a little. Hope, now they are closer to the originals.
#11422
Posted 22 April 2012 - 18:03
Karabas --
Those are FANTASTIC scans! I found that each one was better quality or larger size than my copies of the earlier postings. And low contrast is easily fixed by just about any image display program that all of us have. Thanks!!!
I have pretty much found the same, as the ones that I had tended to be smaller, except in a couple of cases. I have ended up wish such a mix of material on this stuff that any repost is welcomed, as it is a chance to review what I have on a particular subject, especially with Tony's wonderful material. I am replacing my earlier file with new whenever possible.
Not bad work for an aircraft guy ... thanks.
Tom West
#11424
Posted 22 April 2012 - 19:13
Princess 2200 HL. Artist, Dick Ellis.
'System Porsche' Independent front suspension. Artist unknown.
Consul-Zephyr, MK.I family. McPherson 'strut-type' independent front suspension. Artist, unknown.
Lancia Delta S4. Rear suspension. (Twin dampers, single coil springs). Artist, unknown.
Lancia Aurelia de Dion type rear suspension. Artist, U C. omp.
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16. Rear suspension and body shell. Artist, DAV.
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16. Transmission. Artist, DAV.
#11431
Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:00
Tom West
Betti,Guilio-Porsche962C-1985
#11432
Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:49
#11433
Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:56
Citroen BX-4TC WRC 1985 by Editechnic.
Some Citroen GS cutaways by Editechnic (small size) at http://www.citroenet...n/gs/gs-03.html
#11439
Posted 25 April 2012 - 23:11
Audi Quattro Sport Rally Car 1985 by Bruno Betti
Thank-you, you are correct. I went back and we had a smaller version of this come through here earlier, showing as the 1984 version. Thanks for the correction, Ibsen, as always.
Tom West
#11446
Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:14
Looking into the Index, are we missing some Range Rovers ?
I recall having posted a Range Rover by Lauwrence Watts way back some time ago and someone else
posting a some Range Rovers.
Edit, just put brain back in gear......indexed under Land Rover.
Edited by macoran, 28 April 2012 - 11:21.