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How an F1 livery is made?

Started by speeder89 , Feb 26 2011 16:52

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#1 speeder89

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 16:52

Hi guys,

Do you know how the F1 liveries are made? I heard sometimes that Toro Rosso painted by hand his bull on engine cover.

But other teams? How they paint theirs cars?

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#2 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 17:08

Hi guys,

Do you know how the F1 liveries are made? I heard sometimes that Toro Rosso painted by hand his bull on engine cover.

But other teams? How they paint theirs cars?

http://www.thebullru...rosso-bull.html

However as for other teams I have no idea.

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#3 Clatter

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 17:54

Honda's Earth livery was a sticker. I think most cars are spray painted, the majority of liveries are not really complicated.

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#4 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 17:57

Run em through an inkjet with a special accessory

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#5 speeder89

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 17:57

Yeah, I think most is just a sticker. But that from Toro Rosso is amazing! I'm really impressed.

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#6 legardP45

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 18:53

http://www.thebullru...rosso-bull.html

However as for other teams I have no idea.

That's really cool. I've seen a photo of the 2009 mclaren front wing, definitely the bridgestone logos on it were stickers, you could see the edges quite easily. Quite cheap looking ones as well, ie massive excess clear part around it.

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#7 r4mses

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 18:55

The 2010 Mercedes livery was done airbrush-like - at least the fading black towards grey/silver at the nose.

/Edit: Small picture.

Edited by r4mses, 26 February 2011 - 18:58.

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#8 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 18:56

The top teams use paint. remember Ferrari came out with a new paint formula that saved like half a kilo in paint weight a few years ago?

And the procedure for chroming the McLaren is pretty interesting, too

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#9 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 18:57

Paint also has an advantage over a decal that it gives you a much smoother edge. A while back Indy 500 teams discovered in the wind tunnel it made a decent difference, especially on the decals that run along the top of the nose.

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#10 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 19:13

Paint also has an advantage over a decal that it gives you a much smoother edge. A while back Indy 500 teams discovered in the wind tunnel it made a decent difference, especially on the decals that run along the top of the nose.

You're absolutely right. Jeff Gordon made a big deal at Talladega or Daytona one year where they actually put a thick layer of clear coat over top of the stickers to create a smoother edge. I think they have to use the provided stickers.

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#11 Group B

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 19:35

Which begs a further question; does different paint make much difference?

Easyjet thinks so ...

http://www.airlinere...-and-the-world/

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#12 Clatter

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 20:09

Which begs a further question; does different paint make much difference?

Easyjet thinks so ...

http://www.airlinere...-and-the-world/

Yes it does. Several teams have changed their paint for lower weight versions. I'm sure there were reports that it made a difference of several pounds.

http://en.espnf1.com...tory/27211.html

Edited by Clatter, 26 February 2011 - 20:12.

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#13 Rob G

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 21:00

Yes it does. Several teams have changed their paint for lower weight versions. I'm sure there were reports that it made a difference of several pounds.

Jaguar, for one.

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#14 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 21:41

Tyrrell used White, as it's lighter

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#15 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 23:08

Tyrrell used White, as it's lighter

Actually, white is one of the heaviest colours a team could use. Although the actual white paint might be lighter than all the others, it requires more base coats beforehand. When discussing the R31 livery, Lotus Renault were saying that they can use half as many basecoats for black paint as they would for white, thus saving weight.

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#16 Amphicar

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 23:54

Actually, white is one of the heaviest colours a team could use. Although the actual white paint might be lighter than all the others, it requires more base coats beforehand. When discussing the R31 livery, Lotus Renault were saying that they can use half as many basecoats for black paint as they would for white, thus saving weight.

They probably need fewer base coats because carbon fibre is black in its native state:

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#17 speeder89

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 00:07

Actually, white is one of the heaviest colours a team could use. Although the actual white paint might be lighter than all the others, it requires more base coats beforehand. When discussing the R31 livery, Lotus Renault were saying that they can use half as many basecoats for black paint as they would for white, thus saving weight.

Good point.

I always wonder why teams rarely have been used a white livery. It should be hard make it.

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#18 gm914

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 01:14

Paint also has an advantage over a decal that it gives you a much smoother edge. A while back Indy 500 teams discovered in the wind tunnel it made a decent difference, especially on the decals that run along the top of the nose.

HRT should probably stop using embroidered patches on the car then... :lol:

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#19 legardP45

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 03:13

I love the fact that the teams go to all these lengths to save a few grammes and then the driver probably goes and has a burger or a can of coke before he gets in the car and adds the weight back on anyway!

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#20 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 03:31

I love the fact that the teams go to all these lengths to save a few grammes and then the driver probably goes and has a burger or a can of coke before he gets in the car and adds the weight back on anyway!

A livery can weigh as much as six kilograms. I believe Honda's 2007 Earth Dreams design was the heaviest ever made (though that was not the problem with the car's performance).

Secondly, drivers don't have a "burger and Coke" before a race. They follow pretty strict diets in order to cut out body fat. They might indulge every now and again, but given that a race can take up to two kilograms of body weight away in sweat alone, they probably eat like triathletes: plenty of electrolytes and carbohyrates and Low GI foods for slow a energy burn. Not saturated fats and carbonated sugars.