So on target for 2011 track debut
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/94533
http://www.mulsannes...newssept11.html
Shock horror, potentially built around an Aston Martin AMR-One tub!
Posted 14 September 2011 - 21:13
So on target for 2011 track debut
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/94533
Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:51
Shock horror, potentially built around an Aston Martin AMR-One tub!
Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:16
Well I hope the only reason for that is driver safety otherwise they have just blown their "cheap" concept out of the water.
Posted 26 September 2011 - 02:03
Like the 917, MS670, 956, 962, R8, R10??Le Mans has always been about cars that have some (admittedly sometimes rather limited) sort of connection to road cars. The Deltawing has none - unless you count the Reliant Robin. It has no place in sports car racing.
Posted 26 September 2011 - 08:41
Posted 26 September 2011 - 09:14
Quite. I'd prefer someone to have a go with an Ariel Atom.Le Mans has always been about cars that have some (admittedly sometimes rather limited) sort of connection to road cars. The Deltawing has none - unless you count the Reliant Robin. It has no place in sports car racing.
Posted 26 September 2011 - 09:17
Until enough people realise they've been fleeced I suppose. It could drag on for another year yet.I wonder for how much longer this scam will continue to hold credibility?
Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:29
Exactly. You do know that you there are/were road registered Porsche 917s, 965s and 962s? In fact, if you bought a 956, it came with a set of keys for doors and ignition. As for other sports prototypes, as I said, they have some (admittedly sometimes rather limited) sort of connection to road cars. You know, four wheels covered by bodywork, two seats, lights and so on.Like the 917, MS670, 956, 962, R8, R10??
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Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:55
Interesting that the Deltawing has gained the 56th spot for the 2011 Le Mans race (according to Autosport) so presumably it can time travel in addition to all its other supposed virtues!
Edited by cheapracer, 26 September 2011 - 11:45.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:09
It turns.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 20:39
https://twitter.com/#!/marshallpruett/s...294289482498048
Safe to say it's this he was talking about. Marino was at AAR a few days ago, I suspect getting ready to do a shakedown run with the car.
EDIT: And proof.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 21:20
Like the 917, MS670, 956, 962, R8, R10??
Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:18
https://twitter.com/#!/marshallpruett/s...294289482498048
Safe to say it's this he was talking about. Marino was at AAR a few days ago, I suspect getting ready to do a shakedown run with the car.
EDIT: And proof.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:57
not easy being in a close battle while having to use a sextant.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:15
. not easy being in a close battle while having to use a sextant.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:25
Danica's driving it?
Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:05
Still annoyed that that was allowed.There was a 962 road car after Dauer ran two 962s in GT1 at LeMans in 1994.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:14
Ohh year.. And considering that it negotiated the bend with a violent 20mph, it hardly displayed any bodyroll at all (OK, so it rolled quite a bit, but at least the inside rear wheel stayed on the ground)
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:40
Still annoyed that that was allowed.
Posted 03 March 2012 - 14:25
Still annoyed that that was allowed.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 03:47
Yes. But we, the internet, do not 'do' facts.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:22
Wouldn't modern vehicle dynamics modelling allow the concept to be pretty accurately evaluated before any hardware was built?
Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:25
Wouldn't modern vehicle dynamics modelling allow the concept to be pretty accurately evaluated before any hardware was built?
Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:33
Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:43
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 14:47
There's no denying it looks weird and not like a 'real' racing car. .
Posted 05 March 2012 - 21:14
No, trikes are easy to model, even in a basic package like LapSim, just set the roll stiffness of the single wheel axle to zero, etc . In ADAMS or equivalent an experienced motorsports analyst could get you laptimes with a meaningful correlation to real world, given adequate track profile and tire data and aero.I wonder if that can only fit within the parameters of having 4 wheels - themselves being within reasonable parameters ie; basic rectangular footprint?
Posted 05 March 2012 - 22:35
Not sure what a "real racing car" should look like anymore, recent F1's are certainly just as confusing.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 22:56
I'm against the width of the rear, I can see it tangling with other race cars such as late braking dives.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:04
Almost like something out of Mad Max. Look closer though and you can see the thing is bristling with innovation and ingenuity. What a treasure! It doesn't look like it has been granted the status I think it deserves.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:26
Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:48
In case anybody's interested it's Voisin Laboratoire of 1923.
Edited by cheapracer, 06 March 2012 - 04:52.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:01
Yes of course, a June model too, 3rd week, Wednesday, morning I believe.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:12
Maybe like this?
(I think I may have mentioned this car recently, as the first monocoque car in GP racing that I know of... Interesting to note is the shape of steering wheel.)
Edited by 24gerrard, 06 March 2012 - 12:14.
Posted 06 March 2012 - 14:18
This question came to Bowlby when the thing was new. He said that the disparity between front and rear track were basically unavoidable parts of the design. However, if it were a serious problem you could always attach some carbon fibre appendages to "fill out" the front to the width of the rear track. But personally I'd love to see how drivers adapt their cornering technique with such an unusual front-end.
Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:40
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 12:50
Maybe like this?
(I think I may have mentioned this car recently, as the first monocoque car in GP racing that I know of... Interesting to note is the shape of steering wheel.)
Posted 13 March 2012 - 13:20
Nissan-badged 1.6 L turbocharged 4-cyl engine.
And... it turns faster than you might think.
Onboard video from first test at Buttonwillow[/url]
Edited by cheapracer, 13 March 2012 - 13:42.
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Edited by Slowinfastout, 13 March 2012 - 14:21.
Posted 13 March 2012 - 13:57
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 13:57
The racing line is more or less clear over it's entire width, it's not like the highway where trucks make two grooves.