Strange, ridiculous or amazing parts of race tracks
#101
Posted 11 April 2012 - 14:29
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#102
Posted 11 April 2012 - 19:20
I remember that the Rouen track still had a cobbled hairpin bend when I was there for an F2 race in 1978.
Also at Rouen, Scierie corner was cobbled too at least until 1962
#103
Posted 11 April 2012 - 23:12
No idea where Scierie corner was so don't know about that.
#104
Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:30
A pedant he say that Nouveau Monde was paved with setts rather than cobbles when I was last there in '62.
No idea where Scierie corner was so don't know about that.
Here you go Allan
http://www.etrackson...rouen55-70.html
Strictly speaking Scierie was paved with setts as well
#105
Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:00
Thanks Chris - I never got to that end of the circuit so the name didn't mean anything to me - but I should have looked it up.Here you go Allan
http://www.etrackson...rouen55-70.html
Strictly speaking Scierie was paved with setts as well
#106
Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:52
Thanks Chris - I never got to that end of the circuit so the name didn't mean anything to me - but I should have looked it up.
If you had been there in 62 for the GP, you'd have seen the Jackie Lewis / Graham Hill argy bargy
#107
Posted 12 April 2012 - 13:36
I was at Les Essarts in '62, but mostly at Sansom where I could watch NGH reviving his kerbside mechanicing skills some laps later.If you had been there in 62 for the GP, you'd have seen the Jackie Lewis / Graham Hill argy bargy
Edited by Allan Lupton, 12 April 2012 - 13:37.
#108
Posted 12 April 2012 - 14:12
I was at Les Essarts in '62, but mostly at Sansom where I could watch NGH reviving his kerbside mechanicing skills some laps later.
Sorry, I meant if you'd been at Scierie ( I noted earlier that you were there in '62 and assumed it was for the GP )
#109
Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:16
The strip was paved in the early 1960's, thus widening the track.
#110
Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:45
#111
Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:25
#112
Posted 28 July 2012 - 13:07
You never know what those crazy people are up to. Look at LeMans every year!
#113
Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:13
SPORTS CARS Mile Indoor Race Event Pulls 33,000
CHICAGO - About 33,000 people attended a session of Grand Prix indoor sports car races at [the] International Amphitheatre here Saturday and Sunday (8-9). The unique event featured an indoor track of nearly a mile. Its course was through the Amphitheatre's arena and through its vast exhibit halls, A brick wall and a pillar in the wall between the two sections of the building were removed to clear the way.
People, paying $2 up, watched the races either from the arena seats or from the "infield" of the exhibit halls. Average speed of the cars was 72 mph. Some hit more than 100 miles an hour.....North exhibit halls in the building were used for pits by the cars and drivers. About 200 sports cars were displayed in one area. Some 35 participated in the races.
Building manager ME Thayer said the event was highly successful and that plans were being mapped for repeating it next year.
#114
Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:14
Okay, where does the circuit go?
Well, it goes here:
And then it leads to this exciting downhill ess-bend:
Just one of the tricky corners on the original Watkins Glen road course.
#115
Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:19
The autumn scenery is very nice too.Here's a good one...
Okay, where does the circuit go?
Well, it goes here:
And then it leads to this exciting downhill ess-bend:
Just one of the tricky corners on the original Watkins Glen road course.
I hope the speed limit was higher for the racing!! load limit should be fine.
#116
Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:34
It's everywhere right now... and Lake Seneca is extremely picturesque, while the vineyards on the other side of the lake are attracting a lot of wine buyers.
#117
Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:54
Nicer than that, Lee...
It's everywhere right now... and Lake Seneca is extremely picturesque, while the vineyards on the other side of the lake are attracting a lot of wine buyers.
Those cracks in the pavement are a worry....
#118
Posted 15 October 2012 - 18:15
Those cracks in the pavement are a worry....
Not uncommon in that part of the world. I believe it's due to hot summers and pretty cold winters.
#119
Posted 15 October 2012 - 18:34
They could cover them with astroturf.Not uncommon in that part of the world. I believe it's due to hot summers and pretty cold winters.
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#120
Posted 15 October 2012 - 19:04
Sadly - nobody has yet worked out how to secure the plastic grass sufficiently to cope with sverel hundred horse-power on regular and repetaed occurrences, resulting in "lawn clippings" and the like being scattered everywhere.
As we could see at the korean GP.
#121
Posted 15 October 2012 - 20:31
I never understood the positioning of the Adenauer Forst chicane at the Ring. Right in the middle of a fast, flowing section...a blind chicane!
Even if you know it is coming up, it is tough to slow down enough.
Then, right back up to full chat...thinking, WTF?
#122
Posted 15 October 2012 - 21:41
No holes what are complaing about. Far better than most of Adelaides metro roads. It is called a lack of maintenance though that is seemingly tourist drive in some stunning countryThose cracks in the pavement are a worry....
#123
Posted 16 October 2012 - 00:58
Originally posted by 275 GTB-4
Those cracks in the pavement are a worry....
That's an uncommonly strange comment, Mick...
Cracks like that are prevalent in roads all over the place. In this case, the roads are little-used country roads which haven't seen a racing car in sixty years.
#124
Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:32
Interesting thread...
I never understood the positioning of the Adenauer Forst chicane at the Ring. Right in the middle of a fast, flowing section...a blind chicane!
Even if you know it is coming up, it is tough to slow down enough.
Then, right back up to full chat...thinking, WTF?
...as can be seen in this series of clips filmed there during 'Touristenfahrten' in 1970...
#125
Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:32
No holes what are complaing about. Far better than most of Adelaides metro roads. It is called a lack of maintenance though that is seemingly tourist drive in some stunning country
True Lee..they are "shockers"...especially the intersection with 6 person-hole covers...
For me, the most strange, ridiculous, AND amazing part of a race track was the Flag Point at the entrance to the overbridge at Oran Park...the thoughtful "designers" (a term I use loosely) attached a welded, expanded mesh metal platform to the armco....so when you were flagging, twenty feet above nothing, with Tonnes of cars heading straight for you before throwing it sideways over the bridge....the tiny little voice in your head said..."OK, if one comes in, you jump up in the air so that you don't get your ankles broke!!"
#126
Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:11
Interesting thread...
I never understood the positioning of the Adenauer Forst chicane at the Ring. Right in the middle of a fast, flowing section...a blind chicane!
Even if you know it is coming up, it is tough to slow down enough.
Then, right back up to full chat...thinking, WTF?
On the other hand, how would that part look without that said chicane... Flat down Fuchsröhre, flat through left-hand corner in the bottom, flatout uphill - and then, a fast right hand corner right over the crest...? Flugplatz (Quiddelbacher Höhe) would suddenly seem just so easy and ordinary.;)
#127
Posted 23 April 2013 - 22:18
It is very unusual to see an oval track with turns of different sizes.
Source: http://www.historics...cester Park.htm
#128
Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:54
It is very unusual to see an oval track with turns of different sizes.
It's fairly common here in the US, although the differences in radii in your photo are more extreme than I've ever seen before. But we have the egg-shaped Darlington and Gateway ovals, the three-cornered Pocono superspeedway, Phoenix, Disney World, Rockingham, and the dearly-departed Nazareth oval, to name a few.
#129
Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:58
#130
Posted 27 April 2013 - 13:37
Edited by hillsprint, 27 April 2013 - 14:50.
#131
Posted 24 May 2013 - 06:37
Source: http://pa.gov/portal...281_1360017_43/
Were there many other US ovals that featured similar overhead bridges?
#132
Posted 24 May 2013 - 15:43
#133
Posted 24 May 2013 - 15:46
#134
Posted 24 May 2013 - 16:59
Were there many other US ovals that featured similar overhead bridges?
Indianapolis of course, the longest lasting of which came down after the 1956 race.
#135
Posted 24 May 2013 - 17:26
#136
Posted 24 May 2013 - 21:28
There was also a similar situation at Andestorp, where the main straight was a runway that was wider than the rest of the circuit. It then narrowed back down at the end, a bit like a motorway with two lanes coned off!
#137
Posted 24 May 2013 - 23:10
Did'nt the Chimay road course in Belgium have a norrow bridge, that was only wide enough for one car in the middle of a long straight, so everyone had to get in line to go over it?
True, unfortunately Yvo Grauls found out the hard way that 2 into 1 doesn't go.
Great circuit though, reknown for the slipstreaming battles out in the country toward and back from Salles village, but the really skillful part was the run downhill through the ultra quick curves to the start finish line and into Chimay itself (before the town section was bypassed in 1985 . Fortunately some of this section is still part of the current circuit, though buggered up by chicane. Haven't been there for a while but the supermarket as you get into Chimay from the S/F line used to sell the eponymous beer at a VERY reasonable price There was also a restaurant heading back up the road toward Beaumont that had wonderful trout from the nearby Lac de Virelles.
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#138
Posted 25 May 2013 - 15:45
Williams Grove Speedway had an overhead bridge to allow spectators to cross the track from the infield to outside the track, and vice versa:
Were there many other US ovals that featured similar overhead bridges?
Winchester (IN) and Dayton (OH) had one, too. The one at Dayton was peculiar, as it was near Turn 4 which, of course, was steeply banked - left quite a narrow gap for the cars to slip through!
#139
Posted 25 May 2013 - 22:26
Here is a photo from the Brafield circuit in England in 1957 showing the drums in their correct places:
Source: http://www.oldstox.c.....201955-6 .jpg
Keeping on the speedway theme, the famous "bullpens" corner at the Sydney Showground:
This was the area where bulls were released when the Showground was hosting a rodeo. The gates (under the yellow signs) were held closed by several large chains and padlocks which hung over the gates towards oncoming drivers. As well as the chains, the poles that supported the gates were to be avoided at all times.
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#140
Posted 25 May 2013 - 23:13
#141
Posted 27 May 2013 - 19:41
#142
Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:41
http://www.brickyard...tualLayout.aspx
#143
Posted 09 August 2013 - 22:29
#144
Posted 10 August 2013 - 00:27
Bathurst had a drive in on conrod, though it was not part of the track edge.If I remember correctly, the early-70s Zwartkops circuit (not the current one), near Pretoria, skirted a drive-in cinema. This included parking-meter-like poles where the loudspeakers were mounted, and humps so that the film-goers could park angled upwards towards the screen. There was one corner where a miscalculation could lead to an exciting adventure over the humps and (hopefully) between the poles!
#145
Posted 10 August 2013 - 19:41
When was that changed? It used to be nine holes inside, and nine outside the Speedway.
I guess when the place was butchered for Bernie.
#146
Posted 10 August 2013 - 22:09
The VIR oak, sadly, is no more: http://virnow.com/20...ak-tree-down-2/Virginia International Raceway's signature corner is the Oak Tree Turn, so named because there is a giant oak standing on the inside of the corner, right at the apex.
#147
Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:59
Yeah, I was very disappointed when I heard that it had fallen. I was wishing that they would plant another one in its place, but I knew that would never happen.The VIR oak, sadly, is no more: http://virnow.com/20...ak-tree-down-2/
#148
Posted 11 August 2013 - 09:32
This telephone pole at Chula Vista's Speedway 117 (not 177 as per caption) made for some spectacular photo ops in the early eighties. I wonder if anyone ever "caught" it!
#149
Posted 12 August 2013 - 03:31
Williams Grove Speedway had an overhead bridge to allow spectators to cross the track from the infield to outside the track, and vice versa:
Source: http://pa.gov/portal...281_1360017_43/
Were there many other US ovals that featured similar overhead bridges?
The Indianapolis Motor Speedway originally had one -- it's visible in this amazing 1911 motion picture footage.
http://www.macsmotor...dianapolis-500/
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#150
Posted 12 August 2013 - 13:57
The Indianapolis Motor Speedway originally had one -- it's visible in this amazing 1911 motion picture footage.
Just to clarify, that bridge is at the entrance to turn 2 and was taken down 1912, whereas the one I mentioned that came down in 1956 was the backstretch one that connected the two halves of the golf course - the bridge Vuky so very nearly hit in 1955.