will it only take part in LeMans?
It doesn't conform to regs for any series, so yes.
Posted 14 February 2012 - 13:38
will it only take part in LeMans?
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 14:18
I wonder what is going on with the DeltaWing Project.Any news when we see the car driven in real?And will it only take part in LeMans?
Posted 14 February 2012 - 20:41
I wonder what is going on with the DeltaWing Project.Any news when we see the car driven in real?And will it only take part in LeMans?
Edited by Risil, 14 February 2012 - 20:42.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 21:00
It's going to probably be the slowest car on the grid by far, I don't even think fuel efficiency will save it. But it's nice to see something interesting happen once in awhile
Posted 14 February 2012 - 21:05
Yeah it's weird, I don't see why people are willing to go as far as hate something like this. Me personally I find it very interesting because it's all new and shiny, but even if you don't, you don't have to hate it.It will be the ultimate test of their PR, they claim the car is capable of better pace than LMP2 cars (someone even said something about a LM target laptime of 3:37, and last year's fastest LMP2s couldn't crack 3:40).
The amount of vitriol and hatred towards the Delta Wing in other places on the Web however is quite staggering, it shocked me more than the car itself.
Posted 14 February 2012 - 21:15
The amount of vitriol and hatred towards the Delta Wing in other places on the Web however is quite staggering, it shocked me more than the car itself.
Edited by Risil, 14 February 2012 - 21:17.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 00:52
Some amendments to the sporting regulations; one car instead of two scores points (best finisher) and 6 of the 8 races counts towards the championship.
http://www.planetlem...spice-up-lm-p1/
Obviosly tailor made for Toyota. Hopefully only temporary and back to the original rules for 2013.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:11
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:08
Maybe they are of the opinion that there is a reason why cars (especially racing cars) have the wheels at the corners and are usually as wide as possible...First I've heard of the DeltaWing... interesting concept and I'll definitely be interested to see how it goes at LeMans. No idea why so many would be against someone trying something new. :/
"Sometimes computers can leg you up pretty badly," Bowlby remarks. "So I ran down to Hobbytown USA in Castleton here in Indianapolis. It's a great model shop and I bought two suitable high-performance, radio-controlled model cars. I modified one of them to have a single front wheel with the weight distribution that it looked like we needed from a simulation standpoint. I compared a conventional four-wheeled car to this Delta shaped three-wheeler and the three-wheeler was extraordinarily good. What we had seen in simulation actually worked in reality.
"Every aircraft after that ended up having the main undercarriage widely-spaced and placed further rearwards with a single nosewheel so you could haul on the anchors and have a stable condition under braking. Certainly we found under simulation that's exactly what you end up with--a very stable car under braking. So suddenly we had a car that out-accelerates and outbrakes the current car."
http://gordonkirby.c...t_is_no222.html
Edited by V8 Fireworks, 19 February 2012 - 04:15.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:18
Maybe they are of the opinion that there is a reason why cars (especially racing cars) have the wheels at the corners and are usually as wide as possible...
Posted 21 February 2012 - 13:02
It is but the ALMS GT2 grid should still look great
Confirmed
2x P&M Corvette
2x ESM Ferrari
2x FL Porsche
1x Falken Porsche
1x PMR Porsche
2x RLL BMW
1x AJR Lotus Evora (from Long Beach onwards)
Likely / partial season
0-1x Risi Ferrari (only Sebring confirmed at this stage but full campaign still possible)
0-1x Krohn Ferrari (some rounds maybe)
0-2x AMR Vantage (some rounds maybe)
Maybe?
0-2x Robertson Ford (???)
0-1x West Lambo (???)
0-1x extra Falken Porsche (???)
0-? converted Audi R8 LMS (???)
Sebring-only (as part of WEC)
2x AFC Ferrari
1x Luxury Ferrari
1x Felbermayr Porsche
1x AMR Vantage
+7 cars in separate GTE-AM
Dead
RSR Jaguar
Abruzzi
Edited by SonnyViceR, 21 February 2012 - 13:10.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 18:19
http://www.facebook....8...&permPage=1
You see the guardrail in this one.
Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:35
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 15:08
Just catching up having been at work... how dumb is Chandhok?
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 15:15
He's useless. And some people genuinely believe he should be in F1
Hartley absolutely flying in LMP2. 5 seconds per lap faster than anyone else.
Posted 05 May 2012 - 15:42
He was pretty fast for someone useless. Yea, the mistakes were stupid, but the conditions were difficult and even McNish put his e-tron in the gravel.He's useless. And some people genuinely believe he should be in F1
Hartley absolutely flying in LMP2. 5 seconds per lap faster than anyone else.
Edited by dau, 05 May 2012 - 15:47.
Posted 05 May 2012 - 16:23
He was pretty fast for someone useless. Yea, the mistakes were stupid, but the conditions were difficult and even McNish put his e-tron in the gravel.
Hope the Dome can recover with Minassian.
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Only equalizer at this point is something close to last year's Lemans.Looking at the qualifying times and the best race laps, it seems the ACO has finally nailed the diesel/petrol equalization!!!
Not even close. What a joke.
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I thought it was an intriguing race, rather than an exciting one. Hat off to Audi, all cars finished - so that is quite something. A few points:
In the wet early part of the race, the e-tron Quattros just waltzed away - which was impressive. However, it seems that they are wearing their tyres more heavily....which is why the Toyota will have it's hybrid system through the rear wheels. And has already been said, the balance of performance of petrol v diesel.......6 years on, and they can't get it right.
However, roll on Le Mans test day....and then the big one itself, and another Audi win. Not sure it's great for the sport mind you...
Posted 09 May 2012 - 15:43
That's weird, because the few times i checked the live timing, he was matching the lap times of the Rebellions. The RLM guys even mentioned him being on a pretty good recovery drive.Chandhok was lapping 2 seconds a lap slower in an LMP1 car than Hartley in an LMP2
Posted 09 May 2012 - 18:34
I thought it was an intriguing race, rather than an exciting one. Hat off to Audi, all cars finished - so that is quite something. A few points:
In the wet early part of the race, the e-tron Quattros just waltzed away - which was impressive. However, it seems that they are wearing their tyres more heavily....which is why the Toyota will have it's hybrid system through the rear wheels. And has already been said, the balance of performance of petrol v diesel.......6 years on, and they can't get it right.
However, roll on Le Mans test day....and then the big one itself, and another Audi win. Not sure it's great for the sport mind you...
Posted 09 May 2012 - 19:24
What is the date of the test?
Posted 08 August 2012 - 22:08
http://www.racecar-e...ans-prototypes/Specifically it has been made clear that the new generation of Formula 1 V6 engines could be installed
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Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:59
It's an old article and more or less speculation at this point. Engine regulations are free within the fuel flow limit, but only that article picked up on the possibility of F1 engines being theoretically allowed in LMP1.
To be honest, I don't want it to happen. If someone purposefully puts that into the regulations (which they HAVEN'T), it's a return to the early 1990s when cynical attempts were made to siphon away manufacturers from sportscars and into F1, killing Group C in the process. With the costs involved, it won't be like the 1970s when lots of teams were able to buy Cosworth DFVs to slot into their Group 6 cars, detune them and go racing at Le Mans.
Edited by Trickydicky, 09 August 2012 - 12:02.
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Edited by Meanstreak, 18 August 2012 - 01:33.
Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:39
I like that it's at least possible in theory, but if you consider those draconian limits I just posted... it wouldn't be a very exciting race.It would be interesting if someone went for a big 5.0 V12 and pitted it against a 1.6 V6, just out of curiosity.
It seems both brands being in creates a "win-win" situation and that is what they want, according to many comments and most recently by Wolfgang Durheimer here:I know Porsche are joing in in 2014, and Audi reckon they will stay on but I can't see Audi and Porsche going toe to toe for longer than 1 year, it would just be a waste of VW's money that they would be unlikely to overlook.
Little in the conspiracy theory territory imho, but these rules have been in the making since the summer of 2010, when Peugeot was still in, but Renault (as the F1 team) actually was present in the initial meeting at least. See the list of participants of the "MINUTES OF THE LMP CONSTRUCTORS MEETING JUNE, 30th 2010" here: http://www.mulsannes...newsjuly10.htmlAnother way you could look at it is the ACO are French, there are no French entries, Renault are French, the ACO spoke to them, Renault said we don't want to develop another type of engine, the ACO adapted the rules to suit. It wouldn't be unheard of.
Edited by Meanstreak, 18 August 2012 - 16:28.
Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:16
To be honest, I don't want it to happen. If someone purposefully puts that into the regulations (which they HAVEN'T), it's a return to the early 1990s when cynical attempts were made to siphon away manufacturers from sportscars and into F1, killing Group C in the process. With the costs involved, it won't be like the 1970s when lots of teams were able to buy Cosworth DFVs to slot into their Group 6 cars, detune them and go racing at Le Mans.
Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:22
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:03
Audi/2010: 70M eurosI wonder how high up the grid you have to go these days to find an F1 team with a budget as big as Audi's or Toyota's. Mercedes, possibly?
Edited by Meanstreak, 22 August 2012 - 03:12.