What you think about Force India 2012 performance with Di Resta and Hulkenberg. They are not much more experts. Force India will keep sixth? UP or DOWN?
Hulkenberg scored 22 points from 19 races and claimed his maiden pole position at the Brazilian GP in 2010 and Di Resta earned 27 points in last season.
2012 Sahara Force India
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, Jan 05 2012 22:47
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 23:02
There aim will have to be to beat the Lotus but i think with the likes of Kimi driving for them it could be a tall order as i imagine the cars will be evenly matched.
The biggest battle could be between Nico and Paul.
The biggest battle could be between Nico and Paul.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 23:21
I think they will drive away from Sauber and Toro Rosso. Toro Rosso may produce a good car, but I think the new drivers will take time to adjust to F1 and won't perform straight away so Force India will have a headstart. I don't have confidence in Williams to even catch up. Lotus should be able to beat Force India due to Kimi.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 23:24
Question is, how much as Hulk developed as a driver. He couldn't beat Rubens...
I am a fan of his and see alot of potential, with both drivers so I am naturally quite excited about it. They should be challenging Lotus but as mentioned, Kimi will be a tough one. I cant imagine he'll take too long to get upto speed so it will be tough for FI, but if they're not ahead of Sauber, STR, Catherham and Williams it will be a disapointment,
I am a fan of his and see alot of potential, with both drivers so I am naturally quite excited about it. They should be challenging Lotus but as mentioned, Kimi will be a tough one. I cant imagine he'll take too long to get upto speed so it will be tough for FI, but if they're not ahead of Sauber, STR, Catherham and Williams it will be a disapointment,
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 23:51
I'm excited to see di Resta and Hulkenberg racing together, and I think Sutil's exit should bring a breath of fresh air to the team. The problem, however, will be the problems with Mallya's business affairs in India. This may destabilise the team. Will they be there at the end of the year?
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:36
i am still expecting that mallya will survive... when he took over Midland,everybody saidI'm excited to see di Resta and Hulkenberg racing together, and I think Sutil's exit should bring a breath of fresh air to the team. The problem, however, will be the problems with Mallya's business affairs in India. This may destabilise the team. Will they be there at the end of the year?
that it was another billionaire whim.....yet 5 years down the line,he made that shitty team a respectable mid-fielder...some in F1 circle and journos still would like to see him to lose the venture though....
as far as the FI team's performance is concerned,i am expecting them to give Lotus a tough fight...
Edited by aray, 06 January 2012 - 05:45.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:03
I am not very sure, but since 2012 is all new and with all rule changes no EBD (which was their strength in 2nd half of year) and other aerodynamic changes, I don't see them going strength to strength. I think 6th was their peak and with Williams and Caterham (if now they can translate their words to results) coming into mid-field foray and with a drunk Kingfisher, things will be more tough than ever.
But just I wish, I want to eat my words by the end of 2012 as they did by end of 2011
But just I wish, I want to eat my words by the end of 2012 as they did by end of 2011
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:10
Lets see if the added investment from Sahara will keep up the good progress they have had since the last 2 seasons......
They were poor at the start of last season, but they came back very strongly....
I am optimistic for the upcoming season.
They were poor at the start of last season, but they came back very strongly....
I am optimistic for the upcoming season.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:22
Depends on the cars.
How much % is a driver worth these days?
Just look at how Renault was at the beginning of last year and how they got to towards the end (Just compare Petrov)?
How much % is a driver worth these days?
Just look at how Renault was at the beginning of last year and how they got to towards the end (Just compare Petrov)?
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 13:32
I'm excited to see di Resta and Hulkenberg racing together, and I think Sutil's exit should bring a breath of fresh air to the team. The problem, however, will be the problems with Mallya's business affairs in India. This may destabilise the team. Will they be there at the end of the year?
Joe Saward said something interesting at the end of the year the las year. While it could be his personal fight against V, the situation is not too certain. I understood. If a carrier must take a petrol money from his passenger, what should a formula one team ask from their passenger? Race seat for money and more from their fans?
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 14:02
i am still expecting that mallya will survive... when he took over Midland,everybody said
that it was another billionaire whim.....yet 5 years down the line,he made that shitty team a respectable mid-fielder...some in F1 circle and journos still would like to see him to lose the venture though....
Jordan, a shitty team? What planet are you on?
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 14:06
They had been shitty from 2003 to 2008.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 14:09
They had been shitty from 2003 to 2008.
Because of terrible underinvestment when other teams were getting huge sponsorship/manufacturer income. Mallya deserves credit, undoubtedly, but he revived a team that had lost its way (that Mclaren tie-up helped too), not built one from the ground up.
Edited by Risil, 06 January 2012 - 14:10.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 23:57
Force India VJM05 passes crash test,
Force India on schedule with 2012 Formula 1 car after passing crash tests
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/96914
I think Sahara Force India VJM05 will be able to beat Renault GP.
Force India has indicated that its 2012 car will be ready for the first winter test at Jerez from 7 February, having completed the mandatory crash tests for the VJM05 before Christmas.
Force India on schedule with 2012 Formula 1 car after passing crash tests
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/96914
I think Sahara Force India VJM05 will be able to beat Renault GP.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 00:34
Both drivers are great,they´ll do okay,pulling away from STR and Sauber,but i think that they can mount a challenge to Lotus,since LGP is a one driver team,because Grosjean...
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:19
They had been shitty from 2003 to 2008.
Yeah then the competition left and they were competitive again.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 02:41
Yeah then the competition left and they were competitive again.
Force India were pretty good in 2009 actually. Funny how even if they'd have won (deservedly) the Belgian GP, they'd still have been a distant ninth in the championship. Lot of strange things happening that year.
Edited by Risil, 08 January 2012 - 02:41.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 16:21
I think VJM05 will be a Lotus beater.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 16:26
No no, you're getting it all wrong. That's his excited face.miserable as usual
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 16:28
No no, you're getting it all wrong. That's his excited face.
i must have misread him
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 17:28
I think Force India will do well this coming season.
Both di Resta and Hulkenburg are young enough and hungry enough to push the team forward.
I think it'll be close between them with di Resta getting the upper hand.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:12
Sahara sponsorship/part-ownership plus finishing 6th is going to give them a big boost for this season. But I did read an article into how they were pushing to the final race, mainly because of Toro Rosso's resurgence which they didn't count on. So maybe that will have compromised their 2012 challenger, although they will be there for the first test, and that says alot with regards to how compromised they really were (i.e: none)
I don't know about beating LRGP, they messed up mainly because of the whole FEE. Remember how strongly they started 2011, they're not a team to mess around with. But having two drivers who haven't driven in awhile is going to compromise them for sure.
Plus LRGP have the braking stabiliser system, I don't think FI will have one ready for the first few races if they hadn't known about it until it broke in the media. Saying that, Williams/TR/Sauber won't have one at the start either (I'd be surprised if any of the midfield teams did tbh, but who knows, I could be completely wrong)
I hope they have a good car for 2012, there's no reason why they shouldn't, this driver line up needs to be pushed to its limits (for the sake of fans everywhere!) and that only works with a good car.
Edit: About Williams, if they have Senna and Maldonado unless their car is head and shoulders above the rest it's hard seeing how these guys would be much trouble for Force India
I don't know about beating LRGP, they messed up mainly because of the whole FEE. Remember how strongly they started 2011, they're not a team to mess around with. But having two drivers who haven't driven in awhile is going to compromise them for sure.
Plus LRGP have the braking stabiliser system, I don't think FI will have one ready for the first few races if they hadn't known about it until it broke in the media. Saying that, Williams/TR/Sauber won't have one at the start either (I'd be surprised if any of the midfield teams did tbh, but who knows, I could be completely wrong)
I hope they have a good car for 2012, there's no reason why they shouldn't, this driver line up needs to be pushed to its limits (for the sake of fans everywhere!) and that only works with a good car.
Edit: About Williams, if they have Senna and Maldonado unless their car is head and shoulders above the rest it's hard seeing how these guys would be much trouble for Force India
Edited by King Six, 13 January 2012 - 18:14.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 20:09
Di Resta is talking about podiums... 
Joker...
Joker...
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 20:18
Yeah they said the same last year. I'm getting tired of the teams literally saying the same **** year in year out and not even coming close. "This year we'll beat Red Bull/Get a Podium/Get Points" depending on where you are on the grid.
Edited by King Six, 17 January 2012 - 20:18.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 20:55
Di Resta is talking about podiums...
Well we laughed at that in 2009 to, and look at Spa!
Ignoring that these are just press pieces put out with his name on the bottom of course.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 18:31
Bianchi joins SFI
So will he take the seat of who ever leaves SFI in 2013?
The possibility is the Di Resta will replace the ageing Michael Schumacher. Either that, or Jules is simply there to get Friday track time with the possibility of replacing Massa. Obviously having Jules at Ferrari next year would probably put Massa in an uneasy situation and not help his cause. IMO what Ferrari have done is political, and correct for the sake of Massa.
I am convinced Di Resta will be in a Mercedes sooner than later, and equally as convinced that Ferrari, with Force India's help will be weighing up the odds of gambling on a rookie replacing Massa.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 18:31
More thaan likely, i hope so to as a ferrari fan who's been watching him for a while.Bianchi joins SFI
So will he take the seat of who ever leaves SFI in 2013?
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:14
Id likes to see more Orange and Green in this years Force India
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:11
Around 5 Hours left.............tik tik tik tik
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:20
I really like the Hulk and Di Resta, they are both WDC potential when they move on to a front running team, if they do. I was truly disappointed when Williams dropped Hulkenberg, I believe Weber when he said he was Ferrari material.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 06:58
Where can we watch their launch? They have a site for this?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:26
Haven't heard about any live stream by @clubforce. So follow jurnos, websites, etc,,,Where can we watch their launch? They have a site for this?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:29
it is the same as ferrari , what the heck should i be supposed to follow ?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:33
it is the same as ferrari , what the heck should i be supposed to follow ?
Easy.. ferrari
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:33
it is the same as ferrari , what the heck should i be supposed to follow ?
how about both?
ever heard of tabs?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:33
ferrari 90 minutes later AFAIK
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:35
opening a tab of it doesn't mean i am following it , besides the channel says maximum viewers reached and the number is 50 !!! 
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:36
I think both are from 9GMT?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:37
The Force India stream is already displaying the message "The maximum number of viewers for this channel has been reached".Easy.. ferrari
Edited by Spa95, 03 February 2012 - 08:37.
