Often the car is the real winner of a WC, a driver could not drive besser then his car allowed. So the real World Champion perhaps are the constructors. So I made this list of WC: Perhaps you can complete the list or saying why you are not agree with one or the other person.
1950 Gioacchino Colombo (Alfa Romeo 158/159)
1951 Gioacchino Colombo (Alfa Romeo 158/159)
1952 Aurelio Lampredi (Ferrari 500)
1953 Aurelio Lampredi (Ferrari 500)
1954 Rudolf Uhlenhaut (Mercedes W196)
1955 Rudolf Uhlenhaut (Mercedes W196)
1956 Vittorio Jano (Ferrari D50)
1957 Gioacchino Colombo (Maserati 250F)
1958 Vittorio Jano (Ferrari 246 F1)
1959 Owen Maddock (Cooper Climax T51)
1960 ??? (Cooper Climax T53)
1961 Carlo Chiti (Ferrari 156 F1)
1962 ??? (BRM P57)
1963 Colin Chapman (Lotus Climax 25)
1964 Mauro Forghieri (Ferrari 158)
1965 Colin Chapman (Lotus Climax 33)
1966 Ron Tauranac (Brabham Repco BT19)
1967 Ton Tauranac (Brabham Repco BT24)
1968 Colin Chapman (Lotus Ford Cosworth 49)
1969 Gerard Ducarouge (Matra Ford Cosworth MS80)
1970 Colin Chapman (Lotus Ford Cosworth 72)
1971 Derek Gardner (Tyrrell Ford Cosworth 003)
1972 Colin Chapman (Lotus Ford Cosworth 72)
1973 Derek Gardner (Tyrrell Ford Cosworth 006)
1974 Gordon Coppuck (McLaren Ford Cosworth M23)
1975 Mauro Forghieri (Ferrari 312T)
1976 Gordon Coppuck (McLaren Ford Cosworth M23)
1977 Mauro Forghieri (Ferrari 312T)
1978 Colin Chapman (Lotus Ford Cosworth 79)
1979 Mauro Forghieri (Ferrari 312T)
1980 Patrick Head (Williams Ford Cosworth FW07)
1981 Gordon Murray (Brabham Ford Cosworth BT49)
1982 Patrick Head (Williams Ford Cosworth FW08)
1983 Gordon Murray (Brabham BMW BT52)
1984 John Barnard (McLaren Porsche MP4/2)
1985 John Barnard (McLaren Porsche MP4/2B)
1986 John Barnard (McLaren Porsche MP4/2C)
1987 Frank Dernie (Williams Honda FW11)
1988 Gordon Murray (McLaren Honda MP4/4)
1989 Steve Nichols (McLaren Honda MP4/5)
1990 Steve Nichols (McLaren Honda MP4/5B)
1991 Neil Oatley (McLaren Honda MP4/6)
1992 Adrian Newey (Williams Renault FW14)
1993 Adrian Newey (Williams Renault FW15C)
1994 Rory Byrne (Benetton Ford B194)
1995 Rory Byrne (Benetton Renault B195)
1996 Adrian Newey (Williams Renault FW18)
1997 Adrian Newey (Williams Renault FW19)
1998 Adrian Newey (McLaren Mercedes MP4/13)
1999 Adrian Newey (McLaren Mercedes MP4/14)
2000 Rory Byrne (Ferrari F1-2000)
2001 Rory Byrne (Ferrari F2001)
2002 Rory Byrne (Ferrari F2002)
2003 Rory Byrne (Ferrari F2003-GA)
2004 Rory Byrne (Ferrari F2004)
2005 Bob Bell (Renault R25)
2006 Bob Bell (Renault R26)
2007 Aldo Costa (Ferrari F2007)
2008 Paddy Lowe (McLaren Mercedes MP4-23)
2009 Loïc Bigois (Brawn Mercedes BGP001)
2010 Adrian Newey (Red Bull Renault RB6)
2011 Adrian Newey (Red Bull Renault RB7)
So this gave us:
1. Newey (8)
2. Byrne (7)
3. Chapman (6)
4. Forghieri (4)
5. Colombo (3)
5. Murray (3)
5. Barnard (3)
8. Lampredi (2)
8. Uhlenhaut (2)
8. Jano (2)
8. Tauranac (2)
8. Gordon (2)
8. Coppuck (2)
8. Head (2)
8. Nichols (2)
8. Bell (2)
17. Maddock (1)
17. Chiti (1)
17. Ducarouge (1)
17. Dernie (1)
17. Oatley (1)
17. Costa (1)
17. Lowe (1)
17. Bigois (1)
World Championship conctructors
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, Apr 09 2012 15:14
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 16:03
To add
1960 Owen Maddock
1962 Tony Rudd
1960 Owen Maddock
1962 Tony Rudd
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 20:23
I think you are being over-generous in crediting Colin Chapman with design of all the Lotuses - some of the later ones had significant input from other designers with Chapman acting as supervisor or consultant. I have seen the following credited as designers jointly with Chapman
Len Terry - Lotus 33
Maurice Philippe - Lotus 49 & 72
and the following with no mention of Chapman
Ralph Bellamy/ Martin Ogilvie/ Peter Wright for the 78
Martin Ogilvie/ Geoff Aldridge for the 79
Similar comments apply to other cars where more than one designer can be credited. The reality is that all cars are designed by a team of designers and it is difficult to say whose contribution is sufficient to justify mention by name. For example should Keith Duckworth be credited as co-designer of every Cosworth engined car?
Having said that, I agree with you that we should give more credit to the designers than we do and I welcome the list.
Len Terry - Lotus 33
Maurice Philippe - Lotus 49 & 72
and the following with no mention of Chapman
Ralph Bellamy/ Martin Ogilvie/ Peter Wright for the 78
Martin Ogilvie/ Geoff Aldridge for the 79
Similar comments apply to other cars where more than one designer can be credited. The reality is that all cars are designed by a team of designers and it is difficult to say whose contribution is sufficient to justify mention by name. For example should Keith Duckworth be credited as co-designer of every Cosworth engined car?
Having said that, I agree with you that we should give more credit to the designers than we do and I welcome the list.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 21:33
I think you are being over-generous in crediting Colin Chapman with design of all the Lotuses - some of the later ones had significant input from other designers with Chapman acting as supervisor or consultant. I have seen the following credited as designers jointly with Chapman
Len Terry - Lotus 33
Maurice Philippe - Lotus 49 & 72
and the following with no mention of Chapman
Ralph Bellamy/ Martin Ogilvie/ Peter Wright for the 78
Martin Ogilvie/ Geoff Aldridge for the 79
All true, and you're forgetting Martin Wade and Gerard Ducarouge among several others. Colin Chapman was indeed the 'ideas man', but all he contributed were rough sketches and adding comments over the designers' shoulders. Chapman's input was crucial, but the real work was done by the 'foot soldiers' in the drawing office, fabricators had a lot of input as well. On the 78, the brainwave was undoubtedly Chapman's, but Ralph Bellamy and Martin Ogilvie, and to a lesser extent Peter Wright, were the ones who made his ideas work.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 23:11
Often the car is the real winner of a WC, a driver could not drive besser then his car allowed. So the real World Champion perhaps are the constructors. So I made this list of WC: Perhaps you can complete the list or saying why you are not agree with one or the other person.
1952 Aurelio Lampredi (Ferrari 500)
1953 Aurelio Lampredi (Ferrari 500)
Let me see, wasn't the Ferrari 500 actually a 166 chassis, virtually unchanged, which I believe was designed by Gioacchino Colombo? And wasn't Lampredi's contribution a new engine design, which would make Colombo the chassis designer? Seems it could be argued that those two spots should go to Colombo.
Edited by RStock, 09 April 2012 - 23:12.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:31
Hmm my sources were not the best ones: Wikipedia 
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:40
Hmm my sources were not the best ones: Wikipedia
You'll be asking us if anyone has done a 'Designers' Top Ten' next...
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:39
No I have this list:
1. Ross Brawn 116
2. Adrian Newey 127
3. Patrick Head 113
4. Rory Byrne 109
5. Colin Chapman 72
6. Neil Oatley 68
7. John Barnard 57
8. Mauro Forghieri 54
9. Tony Rudd 43
10. Steve Nichols 40
11. Gordon Murray 37
12. Maurice Philippe 35
13. Mike Costin 24
14. Gordon Coppuck 23
14. Aldo Costa 23
16. Martin Ogilvie 21
16. Nicholas Tombazis 21
18. Derek Gardner 20
18. Aurelio Lambredi 20
20. Gioacchino Colombo 19
20. Mike Coughlan 19
20. Frank Dernie 19
20. Peter Wright 19
24. Robert Bell 18
25. Harvey Postlethwaite 16
26. Gerard Ducarouge 15
27. Owen Maddock 15
27. Michel Tétu 14
29. Ron Tauranac 13
30. Carlo Chiti 12
1. Ross Brawn 116
2. Adrian Newey 127
3. Patrick Head 113
4. Rory Byrne 109
5. Colin Chapman 72
6. Neil Oatley 68
7. John Barnard 57
8. Mauro Forghieri 54
9. Tony Rudd 43
10. Steve Nichols 40
11. Gordon Murray 37
12. Maurice Philippe 35
13. Mike Costin 24
14. Gordon Coppuck 23
14. Aldo Costa 23
16. Martin Ogilvie 21
16. Nicholas Tombazis 21
18. Derek Gardner 20
18. Aurelio Lambredi 20
20. Gioacchino Colombo 19
20. Mike Coughlan 19
20. Frank Dernie 19
20. Peter Wright 19
24. Robert Bell 18
25. Harvey Postlethwaite 16
26. Gerard Ducarouge 15
27. Owen Maddock 15
27. Michel Tétu 14
29. Ron Tauranac 13
30. Carlo Chiti 12
