Marko: "This is like a death penalty for stealing a chicken!"

Edited by Risil, 24 July 2012 - 16:53.

Helmut Marko said in an interview, that the penalty for Vettel was like a death penalty for stealing a chicken.
What do you think about it?

Edited by aray, 24 July 2012 - 17:11.

Not everyone was in agreement on what transpired after the race, and not just on fan side of that issue. We all expressing ourselves differently, and little tolerance could not hurt, even as it sometimes bring smile on our faces.

Helmut Marko said in an interview, that the penalty for Vettel was like a death penalty for stealing a chicken.
What do you think about it?

Edited by Sakae, 24 July 2012 - 17:29.

It's worse than that. There should be a penalty for stealing a chicken.

This BB is obviously not going to be let by anyone convinced, that penalty was excessive or, wholly terror, even perhaps wrong. Marko is favorite punching bag for long time for those who need frustration to let out. Good luck with that, and the perhaps we can start a thread how much good stuff he has actually done on behalf of RBR.

Edited by engel, 24 July 2012 - 17:36.

This BB is obviously not going to be let by anyone convinced, that penalty was excessive or, wholly terror, even perhaps wrong. Marko is favorite punching bag for long time for those who need frustration to let out. Good luck with that, and then perhaps we can start a thread how much good stuff he has actually done on behalf of RBR.

Is the chicken alive or dead?

Marko admits to the stealing of a chicken. So that's fair enough. The chicken was 2nd place, it belonged to Button, Vettel stole it, so Button gets his chicken back.

So the question is what should the penalty be for stealing a second-placed chicken. The death penalty? Marko claims that's what Vettel had. But what is the death penalty? Something that prevents you from living. In motor racing terms, that would be a lifetime ban. Vettel has not had that. So it's not like the death penalty for stealing a chicken.

Vettel had a 20s penalty. Which was basically to take the stolen chicken away, and also take a few eggs and maybe a young rooster as well. If the only punishment for galline theft were restitution of individual, people would steal chickens all the time, knowing the worst that could happen is the status ante quo would be restored. And, fingers crossed, they'd get away with it and would be up by a chicken.

So, it's not like the death penalty for stealing a chicken, it's the restitution of chicken plus a fine for stealing a chicken.

In summary, it was fowl play.

You are Erwin Schroedinger and I claim my £5.

Edited by JRizzle86, 24 July 2012 - 17:44.

What Marko said was that under the rulebook the stewards only had one punishment available to them, 20 seconds added on to Vettel's time and that in his opinion is the equivalent of a death penalty for stealing a chicken. What's he's implying is that the stewards are limited in what they can do, for example, they can't just reverse the Vettel/Button finishing order. They can't add 5 seconds (which would achieve the same ie reversing the order). It has to be 20.

A couple of people mocking Marko have actually posted the exact same complaints in this forum, THAT is what is funny

Sakae, with all due respect, really, what the bat's behind good has he done since he is lurking in the paddock? He is not a decision maker, the only territory he has is the juniour program, and apart from snatching Vettel, he has done more harm than good in that field even. All he ever does is smirk to the media. When they were dominating(for two years), he has intentionally and cruelly rubbed the salt in more than I can count. All he has achieved, IMHO, is that SV is starting to sound like him nowadays. He is Mateschitz's lapdog and casts his shadow in the RB garage.

galline theft

You are Erwin Schroedinger and I claim my £5.

What Marko said was that under the rulebook the stewards only had one punishment available to them, 20 seconds added on to Vettel's time and that in his opinion is the equivalent of a death penalty for stealing a chicken. What's he's implying is that the stewards are limited in what they can do, for example, they can't just reverse the Vettel/Button finishing order. They can't add 5 seconds (which would achieve the same ie reversing the order). It has to be 20.

A couple of people mocking Marko have actually posted the exact same complaints in this forum, THAT is what is funny

This is a good point: "Marko admits Vettel was wrong (but penalised too harshly)".

Which isn't quite true - they can impose whatever penalty they want. If they impose a post-race drive through, then it must be 20s. But they can impose a post race time penalty of whatever they fancy.

Which isn't quite true - they can impose whatever penalty they want.

Edited by engel, 24 July 2012 - 18:10.

Really? I didn't realise that, I thought the drive thru was mandatory for off track overtaking/advantage. In that case I'm with Marko, he's spot on.