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Bernie's new stupid idea

Started by KingB , Sep 27 2012 09:09

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#1 KingB

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:09

Ecclestones idea (German)

Bernie thinks, that there is too less hype about Formula 1. He's overwhelmed by the euphoria of the Olympics, which take part only every four years.
So he has the idea to make F1 "rare".
He told the Financial Times Deutschland that he thought about five single races like the Grand Slams in tennis. That would increase the popularity.

So what is wrong with him? :drunk:

Didn't he want over 20 races? And how would he make enough money with only five races?
F1 isn't the Olympics. Football is very popular with two games every week.

So what do you think? :stoned:

#2 noikeee

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:21

Just Bernie being Bernie, saying stupid things he has no intention of ever turning into reality (at all), to spark debate and controversy, hence keeping F1 in the media in a week without a GP.

We've seen this happen all the time for years, why are people still surprised.

#3 sosidge

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:26

With the economic downturn, there are only about five brutal dictatorships left who will actually pay him the fat fee he demands for a race. So it is entirely logical.

#4 KingB

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:32

so 5 races in

Bahrain
Abu Dhabi
China
India
and something new

sounds....erm...great

#5 seahawk

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:33

I personalyl think there should be 20 races and 5 of those should be Grand Slam races, where double points are given. Obviously the right to host such a Grand Slam race, should costs triple of the normal fee for a F1 race.

I think it is a great idea.

#6 johnmhinds

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:36

Doesn't look like he said only 5 races, but promoting 5 of the races more in some way. Which is pretty much the NASCAR model of having a few heavily promoted races surrounded by more mediocre races.

But like has already been said it's just Bernie keeping the sport in the european news on an off week now that the asian races have started, he isn't being serious.

#7 F1ultimate

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:37

It's time for Bernie to check into a retirement home. He's clearly loosing his mind.

5 events would be terrible for a sport in which drivers can run into a bad streak of bad luck i.e mechanical/hydraulic failure or being taken out in the first corner.

#8 Fastcake

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:44

If you ever take any of Bernie's ideas seriously it's time to take the first train to sarcasm land.

#9 Kingshark

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:55

If we only had 5 races, only based on the first 5 GP's, then Raikkonen would be champion in 2003, Alonso in 2005, 2006 and 2007, Raikkonen in 2008, Button in 2009 and 2010, Vettel in 2011 and 2012.

#10 Xpat

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:55

so 5 races in

Bahrain
Abu Dhabi
China
India
and something new

sounds....erm...great

North Korea

#11 ixnay

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:59

If the combined total racing time of the 5 races is equal to two weeks straight then I am all for it. Then it would equal the sporting time of the Olympics at least. I think the races are too short.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:05

I personalyl think there should be 20 races and 5 of those should be Grand Slam races, where double points are given. Obviously the right to host such a Grand Slam race, should costs triple of the normal fee for a F1 race.

I think it is a great idea.

In order to perfectly fit Bernie's vision of an ideal world you forgot to add "the entrance ticket price these 5 races should be 5 times the normal and Bernie gets half"

#13 y2cragie

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:06

I suppose this could tie into a breakaway series.
The teams run their own series, then have a deal with Ecclestone that 5 races are for the F1 world championship.

#14 baddog

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:10

Bernie is just trolling some dumb journo again

#15 Atreiu

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:18

If you ask me, there is no reason to have over 17 GPs, and Bernie was probably trolling as well.

#16 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:22

Sure there is. There's nothing special about the number 17.

#17 Jamiednm

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:24

Goes against the hole ethos of Grand Prix racing, but I wouldn't mind some special stage sort of events. I think the Monaco GP can be sacked off and have it as a special stage time trial event.

#18 ExFlagMan

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:29

In order to perfectly fit Bernie's vision of an ideal world you forgot to add "the entrance ticket price these 5 races should be 5 times the normal and Bernie gets half"

If Bernie only asked for that amount we would know for certain that he had lost his marbles...

#19 Felix

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:38

If Bernie only asked for that amount we would know for certain that he had lost his marbles...

You guys are all perpetuating precisely what Bernie wants - deflect attention away from Munich. He is a master of illusion, so when news breaks that Germany could soon be indicting him on bribing a civil servant, he places something in the German media to create a furore, and guess what - you all suck it in. Ignore and he has not achieved his objective, carry on as you are, and he has.

#20 Sakae

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:39

This is F1 for you.

1. We must save (FOM' fees are except).
2. With seventeen (17) races our resources are at max, people are tired, if not exhausted. Thus we introduce August break.
3. Now we will have more races.

What has happened to above concerns?

#21 grandmastashi

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:41

You guys are all perpetuating precisely what Bernie wants - deflect attention away from Munich. He is a master of illusion, so when news breaks that Germany could soon be indicting him on bribing a civil servant, he places something in the German media to create a furore, and guess what - you all suck it in. Ignore and he has not achieved his objective, carry on as you are, and he has.

This

It's no coincidence he releases his latest nonsense whenever a negative story about him or F1 is about to break. Smoke and mirrors.

#22 RedOne

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:44

I think 5 is too many, we need one race.

#23 RedOne

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:54

Bernie is just trolling some dumb journo again

#24 03011969

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:16

Just Bernie being Bernie, saying stupid things he has no intention of ever turning into reality (at all), to spark debate and controversy, hence keeping F1 in the media in a week without a GP.

We've seen this happen all the time for years, why are people still surprised.

People still fall for it. Remarkable. (I suppose, being charitable, it's just the noobies and the intellectually challenged who can't spot these comments from Bernie for what they are. They must be great to sell stuff to.)

Edited by 3011969, 27 September 2012 - 11:16.

#25 KingB

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:24

I was convinced, that he's talking nonsense again :lol:

but I wanted to know whether he really thinks anybody would believe this stuff, as it would be against anything he said/did recently :wave:

I mean how can a sane man contradict himself in public this obvious :lol:

#26 Wander

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:34

Sounds fantastic. The only addition I would like to make is to have the world championship only take place every 4 years.

Edited by Wander, 27 September 2012 - 11:34.

#27 spacekid

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:37

It's time for Bernie to check into a retirement home. He's clearly loosing his mind.

5 events would be terrible for a sport in which drivers can run into a bad streak of bad luck i.e mechanical/hydraulic failure or being taken out in the first corner.

Bernie is anything but senile, I don't understand why F1 fans keep trotting out the same lines that he's losing his mind when he makes these pronouncements to the press.

Bernie is doing what he always does - sounding off to the press to keep F1 in the headlines. He is also quite the wind up merchent, and in your case it seems to have worked a treat.

Long may he continue these habits.

Not so keen on his fascination with taking F1 to countries with lots of money and no race fans, but thats just his wallet making the decisions. I doubt his successor will be any less financially motivated. If anything probably more so.

Edited by spacekid, 27 September 2012 - 11:38.

#28 Martijn

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:56

In the end Bernie delivers; he helps out teams and drivers and tracks to ensure the show goes on.
Its not an easy job and sometimes even he finds himself powerless to prevent a cockup (Indy 2005), expect to see a lot more of those once Bernie is taken away from running the show.

Anyway Bernie can surely remember the 5-10 race seasons of the 50s and 60s, with some non championship races thrown in.
Its a little surprising really that in Tennis or Golf it's the individual tournament winners that are the main goal, not the points-rankings at the end of the season. Unlike F1.
Pete Sampras is remembered how many grandslams he won, not how many years he ended at the top of the ranking.

Come to think of it, I think Bernie is right. Its better to have fewer but stand-out events for main-media headline grabbing, and we have too many races to keep grabbing headlines (unless something terrible happens). Now is the question, how do you make some races more prominent then others... more points or pricemoney or ??

#29 LB

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:02

You could have a championship within a championship with the highest point scorer over Monaco, Britain, Spa and Monza being the classics champion (since thats the four that have been there since 1950)

#30 kismet

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:08

Don't we already kind of have this idea in action? Due to history, heritage etc. some GPs have more prestige than others without any sort of forced "this GP is special because I say so" promotion. Monaco comes to mind; in theory it has little to do with racing but in practice it seems to be the crown jewel of the F1 circus.

#31 Atreiu

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:13

Sure there is. There's nothing special about the number 17.

Did I say it was special?

It's enough GPs to make a season.
The extended calendars with 18+ races only made things repetitive and expensive for people to fly and travel all over the planet. Heck, the last 16 GP season went down to the wire and there wasn't a single ingredient missing from F1 except Spa itself. And the last 17 GPs seasons missed nothing as well even though they were completely different.

Going from over 17 only ever attended what some few wanted, but didn't make the racing or F1 itself any more fascinating/better. Unless you're the type that enjoys watcing races in bland deserts with uninspired built from scratch circuits.

#32 pingu666

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:15

in sportscars longer races give more points one way or another.

in nascar winning the daytona 500 gets u a extra sticker on the car and badge on overall. plus lots of money

#33 mtdd

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 13:39

I think you will find that the OP has picked up on an idea that Ecclestone had floated earlier: NOT to have 5 races per season, but to have 5 (mini)races per weekend. Hence the 5 set analogy - British GP=1 match, made up of 5 races set over the weekend. You may think this is a daft idea, but it is not as daft as the idea of having only 5 GPs a year

#34 MrMontecarlo

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 20:51

Silly idea, as usual.

#35 rijole1

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 21:08

so 5 races in

Bahrain
Abu Dhabi
China
India
and something new

sounds....erm...great

North Korea is great, as suggested earlier.
But I would like to change India to Belarus...

Bernie is cool - always creating great entertainment :stoned:

#36 Tommorris747

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 22:01

With the economic downturn, there are only about five brutal dictatorships left who will actually pay him the fat fee he demands for a race. So it is entirely logical.

I can EASILY see this happening. The way that F1 is going how many countries will be able to afford the fees for a race in future? The only way to keep races like Spa and Barcelona on the calendar may be to hold them every four years. It's only a small step beyond races being held every other year which we already have...

#37 maximilian

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 22:05

Looks like Bernie will be in prison soon, so I wouldn't worry about any more of his ideas...

#38 Tommorris747

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 22:09

Looks like Bernie will be in prison soon, so I wouldn't worry about any more of his ideas...

Pardon the pun but I wouldn't bank on it. I will believe it if I see it!

#39 KingB

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 22:13

Bernie's surviving everything

#40 Nustang70

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:01

If Bernie only asked for that amount we would know for certain that he had lost his marbles...

#41 anbeck

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:42

Wow, to hear this s*it from the same guy who pushed for 35 races per season in countries, with only the two conditions that 1) they can pay the fees and 2) they are as far away as possible from the fans?

:down:

#42 Tommorris747

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:13

Wow, to hear this s*it from the same guy who pushed for 35 races per season in countries, with only the two conditions that 1) they can pay the fees and 2) they are as far away as possible from the fans?

Thats one way of looking at it. The other way is that it may be an opportunity for Magny Cours and Imola to return...

#43 aditya-now

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 20:11

If we only had 5 races, only based on the first 5 GP's, then Raikkonen would be champion in 2003, Alonso in 2005, 2006 and 2007, Raikkonen in 2008, Button in 2009 and 2010, Vettel in 2011 and 2012.