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#51 Tsarwash

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:59

I wish we could debate this (underlined) point in here, but we can't, unfortunately. It is undisputed, that is, Mr. Sauber is obviously trusting her. I do not know who actually assembled current team, but based on results, it is working. Time will tell how seriously she will be taken in the future around the table when other piranhas will sit down to talk business.

I don't think there is any debate at all. She is in her position because she must be exceptionally good at it, and nothing to do with the fact the she is a woman. It's not a surprise given the sport, but it's not healthy that such a global phenomenen is still dominated by men, in the higher echelons.


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#52 Sakae

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:25

I don't think there is any debate at all. She is in her position because she must be exceptionally good at it, and nothing to do with the fact the she is a woman. It's not a surprise given the sport, but it's not healthy that such a global phenomenen is still dominated by men, in the higher echelons.

Again, this is more suited for paddock, but for the record and as with the previous poster, I do reject notion that men are incapable to make best decisions based on gender alone, and need women at the table to "do better". To avoid misunderstanding, I am keenly aware that probably she is very good in her job, but I am mystified by the patronizing tone of this forum which suddenly decided that a female at the table somehow improves the sport. I would rather discuss what direction she see sport evolving, how she is going to vote on serious matters, and how she differs in general outlook from Peter Sauber? Sauber leaving FOTA was a mistake, whoever decided on that, because they have aligned themselves with big boys, and abandoned interest of a lower tier, where they unfortunately at the moment belong. Big boys will drop them to control their own interest, and this Sauber team is in danger that they will be isolated, and impotent (ignored) in decision making process. Time will tell.

Edited by Sakae, 12 October 2012 - 09:26.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 18:54

Again, this is more suited for paddock, but for the record and as with the previous poster, I do reject notion that men are incapable to make best decisions based on gender alone, and need women at the table to "do better". To avoid misunderstanding, I am keenly aware that probably she is very good in her job, but I am mystified by the patronizing tone of this forum which suddenly decided that a female at the table somehow improves the sport. I would rather discuss what direction she see sport evolving, how she is going to vote on serious matters, and how she differs in general outlook from Peter Sauber? Sauber leaving FOTA was a mistake, whoever decided on that, because they have aligned themselves with big boys, and abandoned interest of a lower tier, where they unfortunately at the moment belong. Big boys will drop them to control their own interest, and this Sauber team is in danger that they will be isolated, and impotent (ignored) in decision making process. Time will tell.


Monisha has got there on merit of capability to do the job. Not based upon gender.

The global perception could be that although F1 is a male dominated sport, hiwever there are women that are quite capable of working in F1 too. In fact, F1 might be missing out on opportunities itself by making it seem like a male dominated sport. It could be putting women off from getting involved. Having a female TP who has gotten there on merit and not because of her gender, shows that gender doesn't matter and that everyone can participate and there are equal opportunities within the sport.

Anyway, she has been pretty much running the team this year and she isn't doing a bad job of it so far.

A big congratulations to her. :D

#54 jjcale

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 19:01

monisha kaltenborn takes over from peter sauber in korea (symbolic)


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Sauber has always been good at spotting talent :)

#55 Obster

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 20:06

Great move that wil also bring attention from outside the racing world. I often see articles about women CEO's-this is surely one of the most interesting instances. Ans she is clearly good at her job.
From the press release-I did not realize that Sauber is the fourth oldest team on the grid!

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 22:20

From the press release-I did not realize that Sauber is the fourth oldest team on the grid!


That doesn't include teams like Lotus and Merc which are different to those marques' previous teams. And neither it considers Lotus as Toleman and Merc as Tyrrell.

Anyway, congrats to Monisha! :clap:

Edited by August, 12 October 2012 - 22:20.


#57 Prost1997T

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:08

Great move that will also bring attention from outside the racing world. I often see articles about women CEO's


Difference being that Kaltenborn is actually competent and getting attention\responsibility for the right reason, unlike Carly Fiorina for instance...not that male CEOs don't have their fair share of issues.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 13:25

Maryin Brundle said something during qualifying about this story and said something along the lines of he doubts her becoming team principal is actually the case in reality.

He didn't expand on it, so there's something mysterious to ponder...



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 16:46

Uhm, she's getting A THIRD of Sauber, something like 30 million dollars worth, and it all seems normal to everybody?

The best team principals in the world would have jumped at the job for half a million a year, probably, and while the Lady is good she didn't show anything yet at Todt-Brawn-Fiorio level.

I am puzzled about what is really happening, and this week's Autosprint also raises the question.

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#60 Jimisgod

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 16:48

Uhm, she's getting A THIRD of Sauber, something like 30 million dollars worth, and it all seems normal to everybody?

The best team principals in the world would have jumped at the job for half a million a year, probably, and while the Lady is good she didn't show anything yet at Todt-Brawn-Fiorio level.

I am puzzled about what is really happening, and this week's Autosprint also raises the question.


Is she connected to some money in India?

#61 Paolo

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 16:52

Is she connected to some money in India?


I don't think so, she apparently comes from quite a normal family. Anyway it should be pointed out she did not buy the share, it was given as a present!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 17:35

Uhm, she's getting A THIRD of Sauber, something like 30 million dollars worth, and it all seems normal to everybody?

The best team principals in the world would have jumped at the job for half a million a year, probably, and while the Lady is good she didn't show anything yet at Todt-Brawn-Fiorio level.

I am puzzled about what is really happening, and this week's Autosprint also raises the question.

I share your position. I am not really against her per se, but I am also not on board taking minorities (or women) in high position merely based on quotas. In her case it is pretty obvious that she possess something which Mr. Sauber cherishes. Exit out of FOTA I think was a first significant mistake IMO, that is, if she had any choice in that matter. This might come full circle back, and bite her in the rear when she will need to build alliances prior voting. Based on race track results, she and Peter assembled together pretty good and functional team. Now we have to wait and learn what direction she will be pursuing in terms of normative references, and what alliances she will be building to meet her objectives. Given opportunity, I think the team will be sold. I have difficulty to see them for full CA term.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:45

I am not really against her per se, but I am also not on board taking minorities (or women) in high position merely based on quotas.

Sauber promoted her simply to fill up a quota? You do not think that's a bit chauvinistic thing to say...


#64 Sakae

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:04

Sauber promoted her simply to fill up a quota?

Of course not, why would you say that?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 14:08

Of course not, why would you say that?

Oh, I see. Seems like I read your post there a bit too hastily. My mistake.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 10:13

Uhm, she's getting A THIRD of Sauber, something like 30 million dollars worth, and it all seems normal to everybody?

The best team principals in the world would have jumped at the job for half a million a year


Of course a lot of people would have taken the job for half a million a year. But they would have gone to McLaren or Ferrari at the first opportunity!

By giving her a third of the team, Sauber makes sure that she'll actually stay there, that she has long term stakes with the team. :up:

Good luck, Sauber!

#67 jjcale

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 10:15

Of course a lot of people would have taken the job for half a million a year. But they would have gone to McLaren or Ferrari at the first opportunity!

By giving her a third of the team, Sauber makes sure that she'll actually stay there, that she has long term stakes with the team. :up:

Good luck, Sauber!


Surely she had to buy a third of the team from Peter Sauber?

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:16

Never mind...

English isn't my first language. I heard the saying so often.

"Goodbye and fare well" probably represents your intentions. :)

And I concur with that. Peter S is a racer. A rare breed.

#69 Velocifer

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 15:15

Awesome to see a female TP and Monisha is a gutsy girl, but I guess the real kudos goes to Peter Sauber for taking the chance and making it all happen.

#70 InSearchOfThe

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 15:35

Surely she had to buy a third of the team from Peter Sauber?

Peter Sauber told F1times that he 'transfered' one third of the the team to MK in May '12.
This could mean many things.