RIP Luis
Edited by August, 15 November 2012 - 16:37.
Motorcycle racer Luis Carreira dies in Macau
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 16:35
35-year-old Portuguese motorcycle racer Luis Filipe de Sousa Carreira has died in the qualifying of the Macau GP. The accident happend on Fisherman's Bend.
RIP Luis
RIP Luis
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 16:36
That's a shame. Rest in peace Luis. 
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 16:44
RIP Luis.
I see no reason to race motorbikes there..
I see no reason to race motorbikes there..
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 16:47
Ah RIP
Motorracing on street circuits :S
RIPMotorracing on street circuits :S
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 18:00
RIP Luis. Every death in the pursuit of motorsport is a tragedy.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 18:42
Oh no, that is very sad.
RIP Luis.
RIP Luis.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 21:25
I see no reason to race motorbikes there..
The deceased would probably disagree with you there.
RIP.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 21:42
Well this is not the kind of thread one wants to see.
RP
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 22:24
RIP
Motorcycles around Macau sounds incredibly dangerous.
Motorcycles around Macau sounds incredibly dangerous.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 23:44
It is.
And that's why they get full grids year on year. People want tame the beast.
There's an article on the Daily Mail website about his death if you want to chip in there?
And that's why they get full grids year on year. People want tame the beast.
There's an article on the Daily Mail website about his death if you want to chip in there?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 00:02
Horrible footage noone wants to see in F1 or wherever
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:40
And that post deserves a real WARNING as the pictures showed the man, dying/dead, without helmet.
Other than that, he died doing what he loved, and every death is sad - but he knew the risks, took it, and respect to him for that!
Other than that, he died doing what he loved, and every death is sad - but he knew the risks, took it, and respect to him for that!
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:57
RIP Luis !!
This is exactly the time to contemplate, how much safety is required without making the sport dull. Sorry to go off topic but recently there was a thread regarding too much sanitisation of F1, so just wondered how everybody feels about the safety of a sport when there is a death.
This is exactly the time to contemplate, how much safety is required without making the sport dull. Sorry to go off topic but recently there was a thread regarding too much sanitisation of F1, so just wondered how everybody feels about the safety of a sport when there is a death.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:03
RIP
the guys who ride there know the dangers and probably part of the attraction, and its not big money either
the guys who ride there know the dangers and probably part of the attraction, and its not big money either
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:40
Mcauffin. That's what I call this track. Most dangerous track ever.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:13
Mcauffin. That's what I call this track. Most dangerous track ever.
OT: Far from it.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:32
A very, very sad weekend ....
Another 'local' Hong Kong touring car driver was killed in day 2 practice in a supporting race.
RIP
Another 'local' Hong Kong touring car driver was killed in day 2 practice in a supporting race.
RIP
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:41
Macau isn't really the most dangerous track in the world, but racing bikes there is complete lunacy. I'm amazed that particular race lasts to this day, as a support race for a massive international event no less.
May Luis rest in peace.
May Luis rest in peace.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:50
A very, very sad weekend ....
Another 'local' Hong Kong touring car driver was killed in day 2 practice in a supporting race.
RIP
wait, what? Two deaths in one weekend?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:06
wait, what? Two deaths in one weekend?
Confirmed now in a short news article in the Portuguese Autosport.
O Grande Prémio de Macau esta mais uma vez de luto. Após a morte de Luis Carreira, ontem, na sessão de qualificação das motos, hoje foi a vez de Phillip Yau, um piloto de Hong Kong, que perdeu a vida na qualificação da Macau Touring Car Cup, ao volante do seu Chevrolet Cruze.
Ler mais: http://autosport.sap...7#ixzz2CNXWTpjb
Phillip Yau is the name of the driver.
I'm shocked, we always knew the bikes were incredibly dangerous but the touring cars should still be safe enough. It's turning out to be a very very dark weekend over there.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:23
Two racers in two days
I'm getting the same sick feeling as Imola '94...
I'm getting the same sick feeling as Imola '94...
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:35
Knee jerk reactions help no one.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:20
Crash wasn't that bad, big impact but not frontal. Just another bad luck accident...
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:22
How sad. Terrible.
I have no lofty points to make.
These guys love to race, they have the means to do so, they know the risks and they make their choices. Sometimes tragically.
RIP to both of them.
I have no lofty points to make.
These guys love to race, they have the means to do so, they know the risks and they make their choices. Sometimes tragically.
RIP to both of them.
Edited by BillyWhizz, 16 November 2012 - 11:23.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:24
That's bizarre.Crash wasn't that bad, big impact but not frontal. Just another bad luck accident...
Like with Dale Earnhardt, you'd have no idea that it would be harmful in any way.
It's not like we haven't seen similar crashes. Anyone knows what happened?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:32
I assume he would've been wearing a HANS device so am surprised that the impact would've been fatal - lots of smoke inside the cabin though after the hit and for some time too. Wondering if smoke inhalation/asphyxiation was more the problem?
Sad weekend in Macau so far - let's hope it doesn't get any worse.
RIP.
Sad weekend in Macau so far - let's hope it doesn't get any worse.
RIP.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:46
Very sad news.
RIP
RIP
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:48
Crash wasn't that bad, big impact but not frontal. Just another bad luck accident...
That looks so minor it's hard to believe he didn't just walk away.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:49
Horrible, just horrible... RIP for both 
and I was so looking forward to the F3 race and the support events. Well I still am but this puts a very dark cloud over the whole weekend. I am not blaming the track (especially on the CTM case), it's just very bad luck.
Surprising to have so little press about this, but I guess you're not gonna get headlines if you're not famous and/or single seater driver.
and I was so looking forward to the F3 race and the support events. Well I still am but this puts a very dark cloud over the whole weekend. I am not blaming the track (especially on the CTM case), it's just very bad luck.Surprising to have so little press about this, but I guess you're not gonna get headlines if you're not famous and/or single seater driver.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:11
A very, very sad weekend ....
Another 'local' Hong Kong touring car driver was killed in day 2 practice in a supporting race.
RIP
Terrible news, RIP Phillip.
What to blame for that accident isn't the track but the weak side protection of touring cars, which on the other hand makes that kind of corners dangerous for touring cars.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:36
It brings back memories of Kieth Odor at Avus.What to blame for that accident isn't the track but the weak side protection of touring cars, which on the other hand makes that kind of corners dangerous for touring cars.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 13:03
Macau isn't really the most dangerous track in the world, but racing bikes there is complete lunacy. I'm amazed that particular race lasts to this day, as a support race for a massive international event no less.
May Luis rest in peace.
Having a motorbike race in Macau is really a bit mad, are there any other street circuits that have bike races? And considering Macau is such a high-profile event, one of the most followed non-F1/MotoGP/Le Mans/IndyCar/NASCAR events, it's almost strange they have a bike race that can have serious accidents which can damage the reputation of the event. But should they stop bike races in Macau? I'm not sure. Does anybody know which circuit has a bigger probablity for a serious accident, Macau or Isle of Man. If Macau isn't deemed any more dangerous than other similar races, I think they can well continue bike races there also in the future.
This is exactly the time to contemplate, how much safety is required without making the sport dull. Sorry to go off topic but recently there was a thread regarding too much sanitisation of F1, so just wondered how everybody feels about the safety of a sport when there is a death.
I think tracks must be punishing, but the punishment must only be an end for the session, nothing more serious.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 13:46
The Isle of Man is much more dangerous I would say, much faster and less regular objects to collide with, though at least there can be areas of run off there on the mountain and such.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 15:39
Having a motorbike race in Macau is really a bit mad, are there any other street circuits that have bike races?
Yes, there are plenty. Obviously it's sad when there are deaths in motorsport, but motorcycling is just very dangerous, even on purpose-built circuits. Marco Simoncelli and Shoya Tomizawa are recent examples of deaths in the sport on proper tracks with run-off areas. That's not to say they shouldn't look to make the sport safer, but motorcycling will always carry greater danger than four-wheeled motorsport thanks to the exposed nature of the rider. I believe this is the first death in motorcycling at Macau since Bruno Bonhuil in 2005?
Edited by BackmarkerUK, 16 November 2012 - 15:39.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 20:06
Did Phillip Yau die from the impact or smoke inhalation?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 20:43
Word has it smoke inhalation.Did Phillip Yau die from the impact or smoke inhalation?
It took 1m40s for a door to be opened; Niki Lauda nearly sufficated from smoke after 45s.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 20:44
Did Phillip Yau die from the impact or smoke inhalation?
At least he broke his neck.
http://www.touringca...cle.php?id=8409
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 21:36
which side was he sat?
I dont think those touring cars have crush panels like they do on stock cars
RIP
I dont think those touring cars have crush panels like they do on stock cars
RIP
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:34
Just because it wasn't a spectacular crash doesn't mean that it wasn't a massive impact. In fact, the relative lack of damage to the car could well indicate that the driver unfortunately bore the brunt of the collision.
R.I.P. to both men.
R.I.P. to both men.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 22:56
R.I.P. Luis, R.I.P. Philip
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 00:07
Apparently the HANS device is excellent in frontal impacts but not at all good in side impacts. That's why racing seats have those extensions that go around the driver's head.
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:30
Apparently the HANS device is excellent in frontal impacts but not at all good in side impacts. That's why racing seats have those extensions that go around the driver's head.
Don't think that's true.
http://www.reuters.c...008 PRN20080312
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 16:11
I use a HANS device, but I would definitely want the lateral head support built into my racing seat to be sure.Don't think that's true.
http://www.reuters.c...008 PRN20080312
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:16
Here is the actual video of Luís' accident
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 15:19
I have seen it, please be advised that it is rather shocking so please bear that in mind before clicking.
