Vettel's little tantrum when Hamilton passed him....

He owned his mistake with Ricciardo later, but as it doesn't fit your agenda, you probably ignored that part.

Hardly. He was very vague afterwards, which sounded like he'd been told not to attack his stable mate!

I have no agenda. I want to like Seb, really, but he has so many of these tanty moments - it makes life difficult. Great driver though.

"I don't know what he did," said Vettel. "He was braking his car and I was surprised, caught out.

"Maybe I should have paid more attention but I went to the right and I wasn't very lucky that there was the DRS board, which I took head-on."

On the podium he sounded like he was about to blame him again. And "maybe" is hardly definitive. Whatever, in the race he had a tanty about it, this in indisputable. Who cares what he says when he has cooled down and has time to get into corporate robot mode?

I am a fan of many of the drivers. I like it when they express their emotions, sure. But Vettel has a habit of reacting like a petulant child in the cockpit. I think deep down you know that.

Edited by LiJu914, 22 November 2012 - 17:10.

No, someone posted a link to the audio yesterday. He bitches about both the DRS making it too easy and producing a stupid overtake, and then later after pauses says "it was Karthikeyan's fault".

Basically he was frustrated at being overtaken and lashed out at several things at once.

Edited by milestone 11, 22 November 2012 - 16:52.

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=6037451
"Unbelievable, it's stupid how easy it is to overtake in formula one these days. Stupid overtake. It was Karthikeyan's fault."

Do you hear Lewis and Nando complaining that they don't have Newey?

Yes.

Hamilton tantrum.

Alonso tantrum.

Vettel tantrum.

Webber stomach tantrum.

Which was the point of my " Oh, ooh-er" but never mind.

Edited by LiJu914, 22 November 2012 - 17:32.

Thought your head hit the keyboard.;)

I wish they'd get rid of DRS altogether. And I'm anything but a Vettel fan.

Hillarious! He just lost the lead of the race, and compromised his championship, not because of his driving, but because of a silly backmarker who didn't move away earlier.... I am sure all other F1 drivers would have been elated had that happened to them

... anyone else find this funny? There's one thing I've noticed about Vettel and that's that he's all smiles and sunshine when it's all going his way, but as soon as it's not he often gets the shits very quickly.

Edited by bourbon, 22 November 2012 - 19:05.

Your basing that on the few snippets of radio messages that FOM deem us worthy of receiving.

SV - bad winner, bad loser, reminds me of MS's first career... ya he's probably the worst when it comes to crying on the radio, but what I really like is how guys answer this thread with youtube links to Alonso, pretty funny that.

Can't wait for Seb to win his third consecutive title to sit back and enjoy the whining on this forum

Edited by mnmracer, 22 November 2012 - 21:52.

Funny... how so? Alonso, infact, cries alot on radio.

I love how people loudly complain about Vettel complaining

Massively successful F1 driver has a quick whine on the radio whilst under intense pressure, adrenaline pumping and heart going at 200+ beats of minute.

Forumers whine about him whining whilst sat calmly at their keyboards days after the event.

Hmmmm

Funny... how so? Alonso, infact, cries alot on radio.

Edited by toxicfusion, 23 November 2012 - 08:18.

...............yawn.................

Two of the "cries" are of him being shoved off (Rosberg) and squeezed off the track. I expect some complaints after that, if there weren't I'd be worried.

As for the Valencia 2010 episode, well he felt it was unfair that Lewis was able to gain an advantage overtaking the safety car get penalised and losing nothing. In a season where every point was going to matter it isn't that surprising that Alonso was annoyed at it all.

I haven't ever heard Fernando say "but I wanted to win!" like a petchulant child.

Bourbon, your constant defense of Vettel, no matter what, is childish.

I get it, you support him and wish him to do well. That's fine. But to reject every criticism so vehemently and insist he 'shouldn't' change a thing is immature.

Everyone has the ability to improve, and Sebastian, while very successful to date does exhibit some major failings from time to time. If he were to rectify them, he could be an even greater racing driver. Do you not want that?

Two of the "cries" are of him being shoved off (Rosberg) and squeezed off the track. I expect some complaints after that, if there weren't I'd be worried.

As for the Valencia 2010 episode, well he felt it was unfair that Lewis was able to gain an advantage overtaking the safety car get penalised and losing nothing. In a season where every point was going to matter it isn't that surprising that Alonso was annoyed at it all.

I haven't ever heard Fernando say "but I wanted to win!" like a petchulant child.

Two of the "cries" are of him being shoved off (Rosberg) and squeezed off the track. I expect some complaints after that, if there weren't I'd be worried.

As for the Valencia 2010 episode, well he felt it was unfair that Lewis was able to gain an advantage overtaking the safety car get penalised and losing nothing. In a season where every point was going to matter it isn't that surprising that Alonso was annoyed at it all.

I haven't ever heard Fernando say "but I wanted to win!" like a petchulant child.

They've all been known to have a tantrum, but the difference is the tone.

Vettel, more than any other, has a sort of faux "I cannot believe he just did that, speak to Charlie, have him disqualified" sort of attitude. Its as if he simply cannot accept being overtaken or defended against, the other competitor is always in the wrong or is a cheat - over stuff that is blatantly NOT a problem. He reminds me of a footballer rolling around on the ground, feigning injury after a tackle.

I think Vettel lacks a bit of class and humility, frankly, in the car. But out of it he seems like a top chap. So he's clearly got a bit of a game face which is no bad thing I suppose.

They've all been known to have a tantrum, but the difference is the tone.

Vettel, more than any other, has a sort of faux "I cannot believe he just did that, speak to Charlie, have him disqualified" sort of attitude. Its as if he simply cannot accept being overtaken or defended against, the other competitor is always in the wrong or is a cheat - over stuff that is blatantly NOT a problem. He reminds me of a footballer rolling around on the ground, feigning injury after a tackle.

I think Vettel lacks a bit of class and humility, frankly, in the car. But out of it he seems like a top chap. So he's clearly got a bit of a game face which is no bad thing I suppose.

You think Vettel is the one always calling for Charlie?
Do you happen to always just be on the toilet when Alonso's radio messages play?

Edited by f1fastestlap, 23 November 2012 - 10:14.

They've all been known to have a tantrum, but the difference is the tone.

Vettel, more than any other, has a sort of faux "I cannot believe he just did that, speak to Charlie, have him disqualified" sort of attitude. Its as if he simply cannot accept being overtaken or defended against, the other competitor is always in the wrong or is a cheat - over stuff that is blatantly NOT a problem. He reminds me of a footballer rolling around on the ground, feigning injury after a tackle.

I think Vettel lacks a bit of class and humility, frankly, in the car. But out of it he seems like a top chap. So he's clearly got a bit of a game face which is no bad thing I suppose.

Edited by EvanRainer, 23 November 2012 - 10:17.

So you acknowledge he's right about vettel but you're not happy he didn't mention alonso...
Ok.

So you acknowledge he's right about vettel but you're not happy he didn't mention alonso...
Ok.

There are records of Fred actually telling the team to report something to Charlie. Are there any of Seb doing that or just an imaginary tone in his voice?

Did I imply or said anything about not knowing what alonso does? NO.
So quit shifting the focus of my reply. He ignored the other post and instead of acknowledge vettel's shortcomings, he brought alonso to the party...Right...
No one said other drivers don't do what vettel is doing...

Did I imply or said anything about not knowing what alonso does? NO.
So quit shifting the focus of my reply. He ignored the other post and instead of acknowledge vettel's shortcomings, he brought alonso to the party...Right...
No one said other drivers don't do what vettel is doing...

Edited by mnmracer, 23 November 2012 - 11:43.

Yet Vettel is the only one where there have been ~42 topics this season about 'tantrums'.
People are saying Alonso deserves the title because Vettel just throws tantrums.
People that are Alonso fans claim that they "just can't like Vettel because of his tantrums".

How hypocritical can you people be?

... anyone else find this funny? There's one thing I've noticed about Vettel and that's that he's all smiles and sunshine when it's all going his way, but as soon as it's not he often gets the shits very quickly.