A positive thread about drivers we dislike.

I don't think the intention of the thread was mention everything you hate about a driver and then say one thing you can tolerate.

Edited by stanga, 30 November 2012 - 19:27.

You've been here since 98(!) and think this is anything out of the ordinary? This has always been the official F1 hate-a-driver forums. Anyway,

Alonso is the best driver in the grid, and had his best season dragging a slow-ish Ferrari (albeit with a couple other advantages over his competitors - reliability and lack of team pitwall f*ckups come to mind) into a couple points from the world title. He's also been driving at this level for the past 8 years, with 3 different teams. Living legend already, really, if still a shady evil, mainpulative bastard.

Hamilton too had his best year in F1, unexpected after a slightly poor 2011. It seemed at a point he was giving up the focus on racing for becoming a celebrity first, but f*cking hell he really did drive the wheels of that Mac. And didn't mess up anywhere near as much as he used to in previous years. Lost a mammoth amount of points to factors outside his control, otherwise could have become champion or near. Top, top driver, not so top fashion model or hip-hop artist groupie (but top marks for that effort on trying to get rid of the "adorable prodigy child" tag).

Schumacher, well, I can't say much positive about the present as he's past it, but he is nowhere near as past it as any other 43 year olds would be. The points table is too unfair to him as he also had reliability and other issues. His past record however, I rate him up there as one of the 4 all time best paired with Fangio, Senna and Clark - 7 titles don't lie, no matter the rest. He's almost grown into that awkward old uncle role, the guy that still does things that all other old people no longer do, only because they're still fun to him, and that's nice. Still think he'd do Monaco'06/Jerez'97/Adelaide'94/Macau'90 all over again though.

Maldonado is a quick bastard. A very quick bastard. He owns Monaco like very few others and only great drivers do that (albeit some marshalls will object to that). He now owns Barcelona too because he won there in a freaking Williams, something that hadn't been done in 8 years. Were he capable of turning his speed into points, he'd be in a top team next year, but he's not. Still has done fantastically well to salvage the reputation of his speed, after coming into F1 branded the evil paydriver. Could do without ripping off the people of Venezuela though, or ripping off everyone's front wings (yeah, yeah I know, I'm a Grosjean fan).

Petrov has killed the career of grand prix winner, widely acclaimed God of Backmarkers 2010 and 2011 Heikki Kovalainen, through his racecraft alone. He also did enough last year to kill "Quick" Nick's career (albeit by only nearly matching him, which was enough for people to reach the conclusion Nick was finished), and seriously cast some doubt on Bruno Nephew's. That is extremely impressive for a guy that didn't do karts at all, and had an atrociously slow first season in F1 - fantastic rate of improvement. I still highly doubt his speed is anything above average though, and would rather have other drivers in the grid. Also, I'm sure they could've found an English teacher for him in Soviet Russia by now.

Massa, besides embarrassing my favourite driver back a few years ago, hence proving he was far better than everybody thought, came back from the dead this season and surprised the living sh*t out of everyone again, by bouncing back from Badoer-esque levels of performance mid-season to actually being quicker than Alonso in consecutive weekends by the end of the year. That was a mighty long sentence so now to keep up consistency I need to explain why I dislike him, and that's a difficult one. I don't really know why, probably because he's "passionate" for the sake of being "passionate" as all latins apparently must be. I'm latin and a cynical cold bastard so that's probably why he rubs me the wrong way.

Vettel is the youngest ever 3 times champion, Newey or no Newey. Ask Mark Webber how easy it is to do that. Besides casually winning GPs, topping qualifying sessions and fastest lap charts, often doing it all at once and all apparently invalidated by "xpert punditz" because of Newey; this folk shut up everyone who claimed he was rubbish for not overtaking, by right about passing the entire grid 3 times in Abu Dhabi and Interlagos alone, salvaging a doomed title bid in the process under enormous pressure. I don't really dislike him as much as the previous drivers, but that finger man, the yabadabadooooringdingdobibiloboooo, just stop it. Winners' arrogance is just not cool, bro.

Enough, otherwise you guys are going to think I hate everyone.

I've heard vettle likes cheese. I like cheese.

I don't think the intention of the thread was mention everything you hate about a driver and then say one thing you can tolerate.

Edited by prty, 30 November 2012 - 20:52.

I've heard vettle likes cheese. I like cheese.

You've been here since 98(!) and think this is anything out of the ordinary? This has always been the official F1 hate-a-driver forums. Anyway,

Alonso is the best driver in the grid, and had his best season dragging a slow-ish Ferrari (albeit with a couple other advantages over his competitors - reliability and lack of team pitwall ****ups come to mind) into a couple points from the world title. He's also been driving at this level for the past 8 years, with 3 different teams. Living legend already, really, if still a shady evil, mainpulative bastard.

Hamilton too had his best year in F1, unexpected after a slightly poor 2011. It seemed at a point he was giving up the focus on racing for becoming a celebrity first, but ****ing hell he really did drive the wheels of that Mac. And didn't mess up anywhere near as much as he used to in previous years. Lost a mammoth amount of points to factors outside his control, otherwise could have become champion or near. Top, top driver, not so top fashion model or hip-hop artist groupie (but top marks for that effort on trying to get rid of the "adorable prodigy child" tag).

Schumacher, well, I can't say much positive about the present as he's past it, but he is nowhere near as past it as any other 43 year olds would be. The points table is too unfair to him as he also had reliability and other issues. His past record however, I rate him up there as one of the 4 all time best paired with Fangio, Senna and Clark - 7 titles don't lie, no matter the rest. He's almost grown into that awkward old uncle role, the guy that still does things that all other old people no longer do, only because they're still fun to him, and that's nice. Still think he'd do Monaco'06/Jerez'97/Adelaide'94/Macau'90 all over again though.

Maldonado is a quick bastard. A very quick bastard. He owns Monaco like very few others and only great drivers do that (albeit some marshalls will object to that). He now owns Barcelona too because he won there in a freaking Williams, something that hadn't been done in 8 years. Were he capable of turning his speed into points, he'd be in a top team next year, but he's not. Still has done fantastically well to salvage the reputation of his speed, after coming into F1 branded the evil paydriver. Could do without ripping off the people of Venezuela though, or ripping off everyone's front wings (yeah, yeah I know, I'm a Grosjean fan).

Petrov has killed the career of grand prix winner, widely acclaimed God of Backmarkers 2010 and 2011 Heikki Kovalainen, through his racecraft alone. He also did enough last year to kill "Quick" Nick's career (albeit by only nearly matching him, which was enough for people to reach the conclusion Nick was finished), and seriously cast some doubt on Bruno Nephew's. That is extremely impressive for a guy that didn't do karts at all, and had an atrociously slow first season in F1 - fantastic rate of improvement. I still highly doubt his speed is anything above average though, and would rather have other drivers in the grid. Also, I'm sure they could've found an English teacher for him in Soviet Russia by now.

Massa, besides embarrassing my favourite driver back a few years ago, hence proving he was far better than everybody thought, came back from the dead this season and surprised the living sh*t out of everyone again, by bouncing back from Badoer-esque levels of performance mid-season to actually being quicker than Alonso in consecutive weekends by the end of the year. That was a mighty long sentence so now to keep up consistency I need to explain why I dislike him, and that's a difficult one. I don't really know why, probably because he's "passionate" for the sake of being "passionate" as all latins apparently must be. I'm latin and a cynical cold bastard so that's probably why he rubs me the wrong way.

Vettel is the youngest ever 3 times champion, Newey or no Newey. Ask Mark Webber how easy it is to do that. Besides casually winning GPs, topping qualifying sessions and fastest lap charts, often doing it all at once and all apparently invalidated by "xpert punditz" because of Newey; this folk shut up everyone who claimed he was rubbish for not overtaking, by right about passing the entire grid 3 times in Abu Dhabi and Interlagos alone, salvaging a doomed title bid in the process under enormous pressure. I don't really dislike him as much as the previous drivers, but that finger man, the yabadabadooooringdingdobibiloboooo, just stop it. Winners' arrogance is just not cool, bro.

Enough, otherwise you guys are going to think I hate everyone.

Apart from him, the other driver has to be PDR, he too seems to have the same trend as JB, mediocre driver, huge boring publicity, can't do anything wrong. i've always noticed media playing down both Sutil's and hulkenbergs speed ... when they do good, car was good that day, when PDR does good, he's the god

Massa to me the last couple of seasons has not only been gutless but also a hypocrite. I have started to change my opinion a bit in the last races. However, this change of opinion will not be confirmed until I see if he's capable of doing something next year. If he pulls another 2008, he'll gain a lot of respect.

Edited by apoka, 30 November 2012 - 22:19.

Its like you guys are brothers.

Sadly, not identical. He's obsessed with processed cheese slices, and I'm more a blue cheese fan.

I don't think the intention of the thread was mention everything you hate about a driver and then say one thing you can tolerate.

I don't think the intention of the thread was mention everything you hate about a driver and then say one thing you can tolerate.

This year was the first time I felt Alonso (somewhat) met the hype. Is that faint praise?

Alsonso is a very talented, fast and consistent bellend.

Edited by Cult, 30 November 2012 - 23:31.

Maybe it is obvious, but I don't see why he has been a hypocrite. Could you elaborate?

Not in this thread mate.

Edited by royalblue0, 01 December 2012 - 00:29.

Edited by sheogorath, 01 December 2012 - 00:32.

Fernando Alonso - for currently having the hottet girlfriend on the grid

Edited by maverick69, 01 December 2012 - 11:02.

Alonso has the nickname Fred. I've got an uncle called Fred - and he's the coolest uncle in the world.

Vettel has the nickname Fingerboy. I believe I was the first person to coin that term on this and other messageboards. Many people call him that now - to the point that a bunch of fans had a banner with Fingerboy on at at the Chinese grand prix. I like him for giving me the opportunity to do that

Edited by DanardiF1, 01 December 2012 - 12:25.

In a similar vein, I'd like to thank Ferrari, a team I don't have much time for, for designing such an ugly car this year that they gave me the chance to have my Warholian 15 minutes at Jerez with my 'Ferrari y u no finish nose' banner...



That's me in the middle looking at my camera screen...