Norbert Haug to leave Mercedes

In his 22 years involvement, I'd say Norbert Haug has been a very succesful Mercedes-Benz motorsport director with big successes in DTM AND F1.
Those who are judging him with barely three years into Mercedes F1 team ownership have no sense of scale or history.

He has not been very healthy the last few years and it might do him good to take it easier.

What F1 success?

In his 22 years involvement, I'd say Norbert Haug has been a very succesful Mercedes-Benz motorsport director with big successes in DTM AND F1.
Those who are judging him with barely three years into Mercedes F1 team ownership have no sense of scale or history.

What F1 success?

Edited by 3011969, 13 December 2012 - 18:02.

Out? This thing stinks. "Der Stern" blatantly claims Haug was sacked. The officially used Phrase" in mutual agreement" means exactly this, btw.

Edited by peroa, 13 December 2012 - 18:09.

I'm sure read a comment from LH regarding Haug and their long relationship, whereas it was Lauda who said he attracted LH. My memory could be playing tricks though.

Are you purposefully forgetting the 2008 WDC, nearly winning 2007, 2010, not to mention Mika's WDCs etc?

Mercedes have been making F1 engines a while. You can find some information about it somewhere on the internet if you look hard enough...

McLaren has not even had close to the success they had with Cosworth, TAG, and Honda.

Of course he was sacked.
Isn't that obvious?
BTW, my gut says he will move to Woking next year, Whitmarsh will find a job for him.

Edited by pinkypants, 13 December 2012 - 18:27.

Yes, I would say he has a very positive career.

Is there anyone else at Mercedes who ever worked with Lewis?

Yes, I forgot, people considered those rebadged Ilmor engines as Merc engines....

Yes, I forgot, people considered those rebadged Ilmor engines as Merc engines....

Oh the irony!!!

Wonder what Lewis makes of his decision to leave Mclaren now :/

Part of me fears he has well and truly ****ed up his career for at least the next 3 years and beyond.

/sighs

Oh the irony!!!

Wonder what Lewis makes of his decision to leave Mclaren now :/

Part of me fears he has well and truly ****ed up his career for at least the next 3 years and beyond.

/sighs

Edited by Rasputin, 13 December 2012 - 18:49.

Awwww what a shame, Norbert was one of the reasons I wanted Lewis to go to Mercedes. I'll really miss seeing him in F1.

Edited by Szoelloe, 13 December 2012 - 19:05.

We have no way for sure to directly compare what a Mclaren would have been like with another engine in them in the years they did have success under the Mercedes - Mclaren partnership. Point is that together Mclaren & Mercedes have had success - and Mercedes should be able to celebrate their contribution to that success.

Instead of buying Ilmor, they could´ve just hired Ilien instead, would that make the difference for you?

If not, who has to build the engine from your p.o.v. that it can be called a genuine merc-engine? The ancestors of Otto Benz or Gottlieb Daimler?

In his 22 years involvement, I'd say Norbert Haug has been a very succesful Mercedes-Benz motorsport director with big successes in DTM AND F1.
Those who are judging him with barely three years into Mercedes F1 team ownership have no sense of scale or history.

He has not been very healthy the last few years and it might do him good to take it easier.

Given that Mercedes GP lasts for three more seasons that is.

I suspect by midsummer, after the W04 turns out to be another abomination, Lewis will be sending overtures to Uncle Ron.

Yay !! Common sense !!

Norbert is 60 yrs old. The old dog is moving on. I don't understand the lot of you talking bad about Mercedes. If you knew anything about f1 you would realize that nothing is set in stone. Things change very fast and this manufacturer is capable of winning, they just need ail more time. Clearly they were lacking great drivers and a bad development path for 2012 now that that's known i bet we will see them move forward to a top team in F1 in the next 3 years. They have the resources. time will tell.

Abomination ? 2012 race winning car ? Monaco pole sitter and 2nd place... get real.

Yay !! Common sense !!

Norbert is 60 yrs old. The old dog is moving on. I don't understand the lot of you talking bad about Mercedes. If you knew anything about f1 you would realize that nothing is set in stone. Things change very fast and this manufacturer is capable of winning, they just need ail more time. Clearly they were lacking great drivers and a bad development path for 2012 now that that's known i bet we will see them move forward to a top team in F1 in the next 3 years. They have the resources. time will tell.

Bye Bye Papa Bear. Kudos for the Mercedes engines.

I read things like this, and I just wonder.

If you knew anything about those involved with MGP, you'd know why this team is not going to ever have success.

Things only change if capable people are actually running the show...and I've not seen a single capable person running the show at MGP since...well, ever?

I gather it's driver's fault they did not get on the podium more often? Give me a break, will you?

I gather it's driver's fault they did not get on the podium more often? Give me a break, will you?

What makes you qualified to know whom is capable ? Exactly.

Yes among other things like is stated. The drivers did get onto to the podium in 2012.

What makes you qualified to know whom is capable ? Exactly.

There's a big difference between this team which is simply a British car painted silver, and the true Silver Arrows cars of the 1950s and before the war.

Convincing the Mercedes board to buy a racing team when every other manufacturer was fleeing from F1 was a pretty incredible achievement.

Convincing the Mercedes board to buy a racing team when every other manufacturer was fleeing from F1 was a pretty incredible achievement.

Really, what's the difference then? The phone number?

Haug as the controversial new Lotus team boss Ecclestone was talking about?

Edited by Sakae, 13 December 2012 - 21:17.

Edited by rolf123, 13 December 2012 - 23:09.

Oh I agree.

Can you imagine the sales pitch Haug must have laid out to Dr Z and the Daimler board?

They thought they were getting a championship team that was going to continue the success of 2009, and at quite a bargain price too.

Little did they know.

Edited by Sakae, 13 December 2012 - 23:23.

@rolf: Ehm, who said that he was fired? I do not know why he is leaving, but based on all statements I read about it, I think he has left a company for unexplained reasons, and that's all what we know for fact at this point.

Edited by rijole1, 13 December 2012 - 23:45.

Edited by halifaxf1fan, 14 December 2012 - 04:28.