I really think there's some sort of endgame involved with MGP that we're not aware of.
Quite possibly so.
Although we will have to wait for 2014 to see the final answer to this. If the new engine fails, Merc will pull the plug.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:20
I really think there's some sort of endgame involved with MGP that we're not aware of.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:45
Quite possibly so.
Although we will have to wait for 2014 to see the final answer to this. If the new engine fails, Merc will pull the plug.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:33
He was? What exactly was he doing there?
IMHO Frank will regret the day he let Parr go more than he can imagine...
Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:00
+1
What did Toto do exactly?
Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:31
Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:32
The "end game of some kind" was predicted several months ago in Mercedes thread when CA was signed on. Some "clever" posters have rejected such changes, but we will have to wait and see.I really think there's some sort of endgame involved with MGP that we're not aware of. I'm waiting for press reports that Lauda and Hamilton are kicking back in Ibiza the way Lauda and Eddie Irvine did a decade ago while running Jaguar right into the ground.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:23
The "end game of some kind" was predicted several months ago in Mercedes thread when CA was signed on. Some "clever" posters have rejected such changes, but we will have to wait and see.
Naming Lauda and someone (now we know its Wolff) merely confirms what was suspected then, that Haug was overloaded in his job to micro-manage ongoing day-to-day operations at Brackley, which was not his job anyway, but problems in the engineering office should have been in his focus much earlier. Perhaps too much of trust was put on Brawn, but at the end it was Norbert who probably was made responsible for not implementing remedial changes much sooner.
I am inclined to reject the notion that company will pull out from F1 prior 2020, however expectations are they will reorganize, and step back, which makes sense under current commercial and operational conditions. Lauda due to his age has to be then merely a transitional figure, a trouble-shooter, thus this shaking up of the team might not over yet by a long shot, and won’t be for a while. (Forget Hamilton's "leadership"; he is an employee, well paid, but nonetheless just that, and he better performs as expected of him. No more of nonsensical talks or embarrassing and childish twitters).
Edited by Szoelloe, 21 January 2013 - 07:47.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:22
Mercedes is making moves. Like what i'm seeing.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:46
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:00
OK, everyone's creative writing task today is to produce the Mercedes/Brawn press release describing why they are replacing Nico Rosberg with Susie Stoddart.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:35
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:49
I'm not an expert at all in how shareholding works, but won't Toto's shares in Williams now have plummeted in price now that everyone knows he wants and needs to sell them soon?
Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:54
I'm not an expert at all in how shareholding works, but won't Toto's shares in Williams now have plummeted in price now that everyone knows he wants and needs to sell them soon?
Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:57
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:17
No man, you're not first who suggests so.Williams for Mercedes engines in 2014. You heard it here first.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:34
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:44
WOW, OMFG, WTF, etc,etc. Maybe Brawn is out soon? What th helll is Mercedes up to? Can anybody tell me who's boss in Brackley, who's boss of what, and who's doing what? Now I'm all confused.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:03
Official http://www.mercedes-...a-1-racing-team
Anyone know what time Lewis is being unveiled in Stuttgart?
Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:04
Lol, Merecedes is losing it... Or has things OUT OF CONTROL!!WOW, OMFG, WTF, etc,etc. Maybe Brawn is out soon? What th helll is Mercedes up to? Can anybody tell me who's boss in Brackley, who's boss of what, and who's doing what? Now I'm all confused.
Edited by BackOnTop, 21 January 2013 - 12:11.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:15
Lol, Merecedes is losing it... Or has things OUT OF CONTROL!!WOW, OMFG, WTF, etc,etc. Maybe Brawn is out soon? What th helll is Mercedes up to? Can anybody tell me who's boss in Brackley, who's boss of what, and who's doing what? Now I'm all confused.
Edited by BackOnTop, 21 January 2013 - 12:19.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:51
Ross seems fine to me
my question is "Where is Fry in all of this?"
Autosport.comTeam CEO Nick Fry remains a part of Mercedes for now, but his future role is being discussed.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:58
To borrow your sigWilliams for Mercedes engines in 2014.
James Hunt: And all I can say to that is bullshit
Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:58
Autosport.com
So the discussion is probably something like... "so, this Nicky Fry, what does he actually do?"
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 13:03
I agree. Think he may have found himself in the last chance saloon.been asking that question meself.
His last opportunity to emphatically answer it or writing is on the wall (although already looks like HE is a goner)
Posted 21 January 2013 - 13:19
Posted 21 January 2013 - 13:38
He hasn't got any. Don't you remember Duran Duran saying they were hungry like the Wolff?Having seen the title of the OP I thought it was about how he was set to show off his culinary skills.
Posted 21 January 2013 - 17:48
Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:01
Well, this used to be BAR ;)How much money had Toto made doing whatever he does o own a chunk of Mercedes and Williams? Too much going on at Mercedes. Never was a fan of Lauda the manager... I hope this does not turn into BAR
Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:25
Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:26
german sportbild - paddy lowe to mercedes
Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:39
Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:11
Autosport.com
So the discussion is probably something like... "so, this Nicky Fry, what does he actually do?"
Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:34
Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:44
huh?Lol, Merecedes is losing it... Or has things OUT OF CONTROL!!
So, lets see a list (not entirely sure if correct) they recruited:-
-Scumi (not a good decision considering the outcome, good for his fans though)
-Rosberg (got matched throughout by a 41-43 year old driver)
-Brawn (same, should have really been held accountable & fired after this year)
-mind-bogling Senior Tech recruits in 2010-11, which led to Mclaren & Newey to smirk in 2011 & say they might as well go home lol, while another said too many chefs spoils the broth at a FIA PC (same)
-DDRS (same. really, all that minds came up with one innovation, which directly regressed the cars updates Duh)
-Niki Lauda (recent)
-Hamilton (recent)
-Lotus aero chief (recent)
-Toto Wollf (recent)
People Mercedes chose to let go/pushed out:-
-Jenson Button- their current World Champion
-Norbert Haug- the face of Mercedes in every sense.
Good Job so far I guess.
Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:48
Mike Elliotthuh?
Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:31
According to BILD.de
http://www.bild.de/s...75870.bild.html
How will that work out? Doesn't he own a substantial amount of Williams?
Posted 22 January 2013 - 14:33
Posted 22 January 2013 - 18:01
I've never got why Nick Fry was always a hate figure. He runs the business side of the team, not much to do with on track performances.
Posted 22 January 2013 - 18:56
Posted 22 January 2013 - 19:07
I am not so set on Wolff, though he generated a minor exodus at Williams, but Lauda.... he is destructive. He now has a say.Why that?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 20:08