Lauda.... he is destructive. He now has a say.
"Destructive? What? He got me $20 million, he can't be all that bad." -Eddie Irvine
Posted 22 January 2013 - 20:52
Lauda.... he is destructive. He now has a say.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 23:59
Indeed, a bit sad, but Frank has always been a realist I guess.I'm surprised how amicable williams'/frank's statement was. Talking about this being a great opportunity for Toto in the same way as when a midfield driver joins a top team. I though esp. after last years good performances Williams would seriously start to aspire being a championship contender again. Why put yourself down compared to Merc? Maybe it's just because of Toto's ownership but it's still a bit odd.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 00:23
Wolff: No Merc changes for now (Sky)Toto Wolff: “I haven’t been in Brackley yet I have had conversations with Ross. I admire what Ross has done but I need to understand the structure and what Ross has done.”
Edited by Kingshark, 23 January 2013 - 00:24.
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Edited by Bloggsworth, 23 January 2013 - 08:33.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:06
Brawn's death warrant signed:
“Ross is there and Ross is part of the leading team and I hope Ross is going to stay,” Wolff said. “This is the current situation. If you look at Ross’s track record, it’s fantastic.”
Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:16
Maybe Brawn will move to Williams and restore them to their former glory!
Bottas Williams Brawn world champions 2013....
Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:27
Brawn to McLaren more likely I'd have thought.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:30
Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:47
Brawn to McLaren more likely I'd have thought.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 14:32
And play second fiddle to Whitmarsh? Come on guys a little perspective here!
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Edited by peroa, 24 January 2013 - 07:00.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:10
can't think anything creative with that scenario...all i see is all-around destruction.....I wasn't suggesting that. But I think they could co-exist at McLaren if it was planned well. Come on guys, a little creative thinking here!
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:25
Ownership will certainly help to keep Wollf motivated, but the stake he and Lauda have in the team will not buy them leadership skills, ability to maintain or put together a motivated team. We don't know how he will get along with the likes of Costa, Bell, Willis. Will he gain their trust? Will he be liked by the workforce?They bought it last year and sold it again.
Gotta keep people motivated and what could be better than letting them own a part of the company they work for.
If they don't do the job well, they'll own 40% of "nothing".
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:54
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:01
Certainly true, so far we can only sit back and wait.Ownership will certainly help to keep Wollf motivated, but the stake he and Lauda have in the team will not buy them leadership skills, ability to maintain or put together a motivated team. We don't know how he will get along with the likes of Costa, Bell, Willis. Will he gain their trust? Will he be liked by the workforce?
Wolff has A LOT to prove as a leader, which is something money can't buy.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:09
The thread title is in correct german and was written like that intentionally.
Mods can change it to Rennleiter, though...
Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:23
This isn't a German forum.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:21
Puns seem to be a hot potato on this forum, like in the create a livery thread. Nevertheless, Toto Wolff has cooked us up a hot potato and he's thrown it your way. Catch.Well I do enjoy the joke. I'll leave it up to the mods to decide.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 18:59
“I’ve been around and there is a great atmosphere here, great spirit just as I had at my previous team,” said Hamilton. “The guys seem hungrier than any group of people I’ve seen before. They seem seriously hungry to win and excited that they have another shot at it this year."
Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:09
Speaking of puns...
Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes is “hungrier” than any team he’s seen
Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:24
Speaking of puns...
Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes is “hungrier” than any team he’s seen
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Edited by PayasYouRace, 25 January 2013 - 11:08.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:26
That means he'll be better able to cater to the team's needs.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 21:46
Source: pitpass.com (27-Jan-'13)“I can’t really tell [what I am going to do at Mercedes]. I think I have probably the same knowledge that you do from watching them and seeing what has happened. What you can see is you have a leader there who has won multiple titles with Benetton, Ferrari and Brawn and it needs to be properly analysed.
“I haven’t even been a full day in Brackley,” he admitted. “I have to look at it, watch it and then hopefully understand the stuff. Then I can make up my mind but I am not yet there. In the mean time I am involved a lot with the other motorsport activities of Mercedes-Benz. We were in Valencia today and we have tested Robert Kubica in one of our cars so there is a lot to do apart from Formula One.”
Posted 27 January 2013 - 22:00
Lotus aero chief works happy in Lotus. Elliott was only mid-level aerodynamicist in Enstone aero department if you think about him.Lol, Merecedes is losing it... Or has things OUT OF CONTROL!!
So, lets see a list (not entirely sure if correct) they recruited:-
-Scumi (not a good decision considering the outcome, good for his fans though)
-Rosberg (got matched throughout by a 41-43 year old driver)
-Brawn (same, should have really been held accountable & fired after this year)
-mind-bogling Senior Tech recruits in 2010-11, which led to Mclaren & Newey to smirk in 2011 & say they might as well go home lol, while another said too many chefs spoils the broth at a FIA PC (same)
-DDRS (same. really, all that minds came up with one innovation, which directly regressed the cars updates Duh)
-Niki Lauda (recent)
-Hamilton (recent)
-Lotus aero chief (recent)
-Toto Wollf (recent)
People Mercedes chose to let go:-
-Jenson Button- their current World Champion
-Norbert Haug- the face of Mercedes in every sense.
Good Job so far I guess.
Edited by SRK, 27 January 2013 - 23:02.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 23:11
so that Merc don't have to call the services of Danny Bahar.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:53
Well, hungrier than McLaren then, because I am not sure he would know much about any other F1 team.Speaking of puns...
Lewis Hamilton says Mercedes is “hungrier” than any team he’s seen
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:56
Lotus aero chief works happy in Lotus. Elliott was only mid-level aerodynamicist in Enstone aero department if you think about him.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:17
"Mike Elliott, the former chief aerodynamicist at Lotus"
Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:58
“(...) What you can see is you have a leader there who has won multiple titles with Benetton, Ferrari and Brawn and it needs to be properly analysed.
“I haven’t even been a full day in Brackley,” he admitted. “I have to look at it, watch it and then hopefully understand the stuff. Then I can make up my mind but I am not yet there. (...)
Edited by GodHimself, 28 January 2013 - 09:59.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:04
Orrrrrrrr maybe it's just a case of there being someone with super and proven credentials yet the team is failing so he must be surrounded by 'tards.Looking at these comments, I'm positive Brawn is going to retire voluntarily soon.;)
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:09
Orrrrrrrr maybe it's just a case of there being someone with super and proven credentials yet the team is failing so he must be surrounded by 'tards.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:10
Looking at these comments, I'm positive Brawn is going to retire voluntarily soon.;)
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:12
Orrrrrrrr maybe it's just a case of there being someone with super and proven credentials yet the team is failing so he must be surrounded by 'tards.
Edited by GodHimself, 28 January 2013 - 10:23.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:13
In which case it's still his fault since he as the guy in charge, is responsible for bringing the right people to the team and using they skills in a right way. He failed to do so an am sure will need to answer some serious questions.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:22
Do what?When did he do that exactly?
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:29
Do what?
The correct question to ask is: What did he NOT do and why.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:38
Do what?
The correct question to ask is: What did he NOT do and why.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:48
And Brawn/the team have not made major changes last year?Exactly. It is not so much what Brawn did than what he not did. That is what is responsible for the performance of the team. And that is what has to be analysed, as Toto Wolff rightfully stated.
Edited by Timstr11, 28 January 2013 - 11:13.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:20
All this nonsense going on about getting rid of Ross,if they did and Paddy came,do you think Lewis would try to leave after only 1 year.
Edited by GodHimself, 28 January 2013 - 11:25.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:29
Lewis is just a driver, irrelevant in the bigger picture. They already had two competitive drivers for the last 3 three years and that's not where they were and are lacking.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:37
And Brawn/the team have not made major changes last year?
Why don't you wait to criticize him after you have seen the performance of the W04?
And Wolff knows nothing. He's a rookie. He's got a lot to learn (as he said himself) before he can even think about schooling Brawn.
Lauda has a bad track record as an F1 team manager. He can only dream of having Brawn's track record in F1. Enough said.
I predict Lauda will bring this team down single-handedly. He will learn (again) that operating like a bull in a china shop will only bring the team further down and that taking a team to the sharp end of the grid consistently is a very difficult thing to achieve.
Some history on Lauda leading Jag:
http://www.telegraph...ars-hunger.html