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F1 and Indy Car races in America on TV

Started by Neuz , Jan 22 2013 03:55

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#101 Deluxx

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 18:05

wait... speed... streaming? WAT

#102 CONOSUR

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 22:33

NBCSN isn't doing it, even though they said they would. :well:

#103 Deluxx

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 15:21

So if anyone is wondering about the Q2/Q3 postponements, since NBC hasn't really made a clear statement yet anywhere, besides Twitter (Where I guess they think all of their fans visit)....

I was digging and found this, https://twitter.com/...945290997030915

Which provides today's schedule for quali and race:

1:30pm ET Q1 (tape)/ 10:30pm ET Practice/ Midnight ET Q2/Q3 (tape)/ 1:30AM ET LIVE RACE

$20 says they show MLS Futball instead of Q2 and Q3

edit: aaaaaaaaaaand 2 minutes later they change the schedule again...

We will have coverage of resumed qualifying at 1230am ET tonight. We were postponed last night by rain and went off the air at 4am

Edited by Deluxx, 16 March 2013 - 15:27.

#104 discover23

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 15:34

Does anyone get this channel in HD?
I have timewarner - channel 121- not HD

I had good quality video with SPeedtv..

Edited by discover23, 16 March 2013 - 15:35.

#105 Deluxx

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 15:38

I find it odd that Timewarner doesn't offer it in HD... I thought they had a bunch of free HD channels.

It's so bad watching a 4:3 broadcast on an HDTV

#106 discover23

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 15:49

So comcast, verizon others have it on HD .. ? I am fuming now...
I have MSNBCHD and CNBCHD but no sportsHD wtf?

Edited by discover23, 16 March 2013 - 15:51.

#107 Deluxx

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 15:58

Call them up and bitch, tell them that others have it. It's worked before...

The company down here that was formerly Time Warner has it... But I have cheap cable so I feel your pain man.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 16:23

So comcast, verizon others have it on HD .. ? I am fuming now...
I have MSNBCHD and CNBCHD but no sportsHD wtf?

At least you guys have NBC Sports. For Dish Network, it's only available on the most expensive package. $75 a month is expensive just for F1/Indy Car.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 17:03

So if anyone is wondering about the Q2/Q3 postponements, since NBC hasn't really made a clear statement yet anywhere, besides Twitter (Where I guess they think all of their fans visit)....

I was digging and found this, https://twitter.com/...945290997030915

Which provides today's schedule for quali and race:

$20 says they show MLS Futball instead of Q2 and Q3

edit: aaaaaaaaaaand 2 minutes later they change the schedule again...

and so it begins. massive fail by NBC. on speed we would have gotten the qualifying session live and a lot more easy to find information on programming changes. very frustrating.

#110 Deluxx

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 17:03

Really? That's so odd. I've had it on cable for... pfft Idk how many years now. I'm surprised Dish doesn't include it, considering it shows a vast majority of Hockey out of many channels.

Ahh, thats why. They want you to buy their 'sports' package...

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 17:05

and so it begins. massive fail by NBC. on speed we would have gotten the qualifying session live and a lot more easy to find information on programming changes. very frustrating.

Yeah, I mean there are more than one way NBC could broadcast it live... but whatevs. I'll just chalk this up to them trying to get their bearings on their first broadcasts... but not a very good omen as a whole, haha.

edit: wtf is this ratio? I don't they can decide what they want to broadcast in

http://i.imgur.com/eYEn2JP.jpg

Edited by Deluxx, 16 March 2013 - 18:03.

#112 jonpollak

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 21:44

It's getting ugly over on the NBCSN comments section !!!

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#113 BigCHrome

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 21:58

I didn't think there could be a worse broadcaster than Speedtv, but I was very wrong.

#114 Deluxx

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 22:00

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww lol. There were only like 3 comments this morning. I hope they read them all; they have a bit to fix, imo

Edited by Deluxx, 16 March 2013 - 22:01.

#115 gm914

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:21

LMAO
NBCSportsPR just tweeted:

@NBCSportsPR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

When asked by @JennaFryer for a translation, replied:

@NBCSportsPR um. Pocket tweet. Sorry.

Freudian slip if ever there was one.

#116 Deluxx

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:53

ROFL

#117 SR388

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:47

LMAO
NBCSportsPR just tweeted:

@NBCSportsPR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

When asked by @JennaFryer for a translation, replied:

@NBCSportsPR um. Pocket tweet. Sorry.

Freudian slip if ever there was one.

At least they have the aspect ratio figured out.

#118 Deluxx

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:23

Im so glad i watched quali live instead... they were all like WOWWWWWWW like they already knew the result.

They do have the better aspect ratio on now... everyone b*tching helped lol

#119 Deluxx

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:44

SAM POSEY!!!!!¡!!¡¡

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 18:13

Wait... I keep seeing "free to air" remarks, but... NBCSports is NOT free to air, and in fact I'm having to pay extra to get the one stupid channel?

(and I had t manually start my DVR before going to bed. Great. Thanks Comcrap. Need to send JP the $67.)

On the other hand - much less Gigantoid Useless 1/3rd Screen Graphics like Speed had. No advertisements for Nascar or stupid Speed "auto drama soap opera" shows, so that was nice. Much less "1 minute rock video before we show you the race" interruptions as well. Not missing Speed here, just an operating DVR.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 18:33

(and I had t manually start my DVR before going to bed. Great. Thanks Comcrap. Need to send JP the $67.)

On the other hand - much less Gigantoid Useless 1/3rd Screen Graphics like Speed had. No advertisements for Nascar or stupid Speed "auto drama soap opera" shows, so that was nice. Much less "1 minute rock video before we show you the race" interruptions as well. Not missing Speed here, just an operating DVR.

However I feel that NBC went the other way, and made some of the text so incredibly small, but I digress

Edited by Deluxx, 19 March 2013 - 18:34.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 23:14

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 15:54

Just seen the NBCSN broadcast of Melbourne.
The Streaming Club did a great job with their on screen graphics and offered subscribers a Picture in Picture when network was in adverts.

Only problem was when the FappaKawainni Junta took over the data input department after the end of the race.
Romain's details were wrong but at the time they were fending off a 10 year old wielding a large 2X4 with nails in it

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 21 March 2013 - 04:17.

#124 Deluxx

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 19:29

The picture in picture definitely was a huge plus.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 00:09

I didn't know the pre race was listed as another program. DVR didn't get it...

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:21

The picture in picture definitely was a huge plus.

Yeah, that actually was kinda freaky.

"Ok, fast forw.. wait... really? That's nice. Wait, this is a COMMERCIAL, MUST ... FAST..... FORWARD.... but... there is the race? Wait... if I watch the race in the little box, I can fast forward, and... wait.. no... but I'm also watching a commercial? But... wait. ? No, this is a commercial, I can't watch a commercial.. wait, that's the Ferrari in the pits, and... but.. wait.. now...

..now there is Kimi racing, but... he's also selling a watch.....? In that little box he's ... wait, that's a Lotus... but this commercial, they're talking about Team Lotus, and watches, and.. wait....

WHAT SORCERY IS NBC WIELDING???!!!

#127 Deluxx

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:32

They're are plans for NBC to use this new way of advertising and they're trying to make deals with the guy who patented it.

Imagine watching racing and you can do this to skip all the crap and go back to the race!

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:38

I have to give NBCsports credit... they are running adverts all over the radio here in Maryland (not usually a big racing venue or audience)... I see commercials all over the place on other stations... they are definitely trying to promote F1...

The coverage so far is good...

I really hope they succeed in getting more American eyes!!!

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:37

The picture in picture definitely was a huge plus.

Did they do this during the live TV broadcast? I watched the re-run and there was no picture-in-picture.

#130 Deluxx

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 16:55

Do you guys think during the Indy broadcast, since they're on the same channel now, that there are going to be spoilers for the F1 race earlier in the day? If so I guess I have to watch F1 before Indy. I don't really enjoy spoilers for a race, kind of ruins it for me. Probably should just watch Indy after due to NBC's scrolling ticker at the bottom... :drunk:

Did they do this during the live TV broadcast? I watched the re-run and there was no picture-in-picture.

Yeh. It was about every other commercial break, or 1 in 3. But there were literally commercials every 5 laps until the last 10-15 or so...... Whatever, they seemed shorter than Speed's... maybe with PiP it made them bearable.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 23:52

It was cool seeing Bob Varsha back doing F1 for this weekend.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 23:53

It was cool seeing Bob Varsha back doing F1 for this weekend.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 00:57

They're are plans for NBC to use this new way of advertising and they're trying to make deals with the guy who patented it.

Imagine watching racing and you can do this to skip all the crap and go back to the race!

All hail McDonald's!

Looks like selling your soul to the devil.

#134 Deluxx

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:20

It was cool seeing Bob Varsha back doing F1 for this weekend.

Yeah man. The gang seemed comfortable together. Varsha really focuses those two to reach a focal point in a coversation, haha. I love watching him react to Hobbs saying something dumb

All hail McDonald's!

Looks like selling your soul to the devil.

I love how at the end the guy just sits down on the couch like he's radio controlled or something

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:36

From what I read, whenever Leigh Diffey's schedule overlaps, he goes to work on the IndyCar coverage, and Varsha is stepping back behind the big table.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:45

I actually missed Varsha.

Also, I have to say, the table the guys sit at is TERRIFYING!!!! Such pointy corners!!! I want to take a jigsaw to it and round those edges.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:51

It was cool seeing Bob Varsha back doing F1 for this weekend.

I absolutely agree. :up:

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:45

Gonna go downstairs and watch the NBCSN broadcast instead of NSC with SSF1

I'm crazy, I know.
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#139 Deluxx

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 14:05

I actually quite liked NBC's broadcast. Commercials weren't too bad, commentators were very insightful yet not freaking out screaming into their mics every second like videos I saw from the SSf1 broadcast

#140 Deluxx

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:20

Omg, We get V8 supercars this sunday on Speed!!!!

Wonder how often they'll keep that up.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:16

http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/

Are y'all reading this?...
REALLY GOOD SITE
DiZinno and the boys are providing loads of great topics..
Good video segments with our NBC friends.
Jp

#142 Deluxx

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:06

...........Wow. It's actually quality reporting. To be quite honest I didn't much expect that much :/

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:17

I have been very, very impressed with NBC's job so far. Sure, losing FP1 is a bit of a pity, but they've got plenty of extra stuff to make up for it.

Two gripes so far: Leigh Diffey and poor picture-in-picture timing--we missed the pass for the lead in the Malaysian GP because it occurred on one of the few non-picture-in-picture commercial breaks. Honestly, though, I'm used to that, so no big deal, lol. I have faith that these issues will be resolved over time--something I didn't imagine I'd ever be saying.

Either way, very pleased with what I'm seeing, and hope that this might finally be that big break in the U.S. that F1 has been searching for all these years. :up:

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 13:57

OK, it seemed like more, but there were only 5 of those F1 Non Stop ad breaks, but I found them distracting as, without a large screen, it's tough making out the detail and I tend to just ignore and move to live timing during those breaks. It was never perfect at Speed, but it now seems to provide an excuse for them to be lazy so they need only bother re-examining and talking through just the bigger incidents when they return from break.

Another minor complaint but it does seem like we are getting slightly less coverage overall and slightly more ads. I'd also prefer more FOM feed and less watching guys in suits sitting around a table and so we seem to be missing the first minutes of P2 coverage (although admittedly there's usually little on-track action), but a lot of background grid shots during the pre-race which spoils the atmosphere of the build-up to the start.

Overall the Speed coverage had evolved rather nicely and I understand NBC's need to change and create a different product as far as their contractual restraints allow. I have nothing against Diffey but it was good to have Varsha back for Malaysia, as despite his flaws he really is the voice of F1 in the U.S. It's also a pity Speed have lost the F1 segments on Speed Center and Wind Tunnel as NBC Sports have no similar vehicle for F1 related news and interviews, like in the past with the Texas and Jersey race organizers.

Nice to see NBC are promoting their F1 programming more widely though but the lack of info about their programming is woeful. I'll put the lack of information and confusion on coverage of the Sunday Melbourne qualifying down to it being their first broadcast. But was the F1 36 Vettel broadcast this weekend ever shown or was it postponed amid the fallout of Sepang? My TV listings never showed it being on and I wasn't sure where to find details. (But thank you Conosur for continuing your much appreciated schedule listings over here).

It was fairly obvious the F1 contract going to NBC would be a mixed blessing. The promised additional coverage never came to pass but, in the current era, it was fairly obvious that it wasn't likely to be much reduced either.

But what of GP2? That's a huge loss. Does anyone have any news if coverage will be restored any time soon? (Does anyone else care?)

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 15:00

Too be honest, Watching on my bigscreen, I still had issues seeing the action that was going on in the mini box. But It's better than nothing I suppose. And Windtunnel still talks about F1 but they shortened his program to 30minutes for some reason... Which is barely enough time to squeeze in everything that happened in a day, much less a week.

But They're going to be live at Canada and Texas and thats more than Speed ever did (or had a chance to do).

And my DVR had the F136 for Vettel scheduled but I guess they bumped it to what looks like April 6th.

And for GP2 I just get coverage else where...I'm not holding my breath for NBC to pick it up nor Fox Sports 1.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 17:55

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http://www.1070thefan.com/listen/

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 18:01

USA TV Schedules for the Formula 1 Grand Prix of China

All programming on NBC Sports Network

THU NIGHT - APR 11:

F1 36
(36 hrs w/an F1 Celebrity. This episode: Vettel)
12:30 am - 1:00 am E
11:30 pm - 12:00 am C
10:30 pm - 11:00 pm M
9:30 pm - 10:00 pm P

P2
(Live)
1:00 am - 2:40 am E
12:00 am - 1:40 am C
11:00 am - 12:40 am M
10:00 pm - 11:40 pm P

FRI - APR 12:

Motorsports Hour
2:00 pm - 3:00 pm E
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm C
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm M
11:00 am - 12:00 pm P

F1 36
6:00 pm - 6:30 pm E
5:00 pm - 5:30 pm C
4:00 pm - 4:30 pm M
3:00 pm - 3:30 pm P

F1 36
11:00 pm - 11:30 pm E
10:00 pm - 10:30 pm C
9:00 pm - 9:30 pm M
8:00 pm - 8:30 pm P

P2
(2nd/final airing)
11:30 pm - 1:00 am E
10:30 pm - 12:00 am C
9:30 pm - 11:00 pm M
8:30 pm - 10:00 pm P

Qualifying
(Live)
1:00 am - 2:30 am E
12:00 am - 1:30 am C
11:00 pm - 12:30 am M
10:00 pm - 11:30 pm P

SAT - APR 13:

Qualifying
(2nd/final airing)
2:00 pm - 3:30 pm E
1:00 pm - 2:30 pm C
12:00 pm - 1:30 pm M
11:00 am - 12:30 pm P

Motorsports Hour
4:00 pm - 5:00 pm E
3:00 pm - 4:00 pm C
2:00 pm - 3:00 pm M
1:00 am - 2:00 pm P

F1 36
6:00 pm - 6:30 pm E
5:00 pm - 5:30 pm C
4:00 pm - 4:30 pm M
3:00 pm - 3:30 pm P

F1 Pre-Race
(Live) (late Sat night)
1:30 am - 2:00 am E
12:30 am - 1:00 am C
11:30 pm - 12:00 am M
10:30 pm - 11:00 pm P

F1 Race
(Live) (very late Sat night/very early Sun am)
2:00 am - 4:00 am E
1:00 am - 3:00 am C
12:00 am - 2:00 am M
11:00 pm - 1:00 am P

F1 Extra
(Live) (very late Sat night/very early Sun am)
4:00 am - 4:30 am E
3:00 am - 3:30 am C
2:00 am - 2:30 am M
1:00 am - 1:30 am P

SUN - APR 14:

F1 Race Replay
(2nd airing)
12:00 pm - 3:00 pm E
11:00 am - 2:00 pm C
10:00 am - 1:00 pm M
9:00 am - 12:00 pm P

F1 36
3:00 pm - 3:30 pm E
2:00 pm - 2:30 pm C
1:00 pm - 1:30 pm M
12:00 pm - 12:30 pm P

F1 Race Replay
(3rd/final airing)
12:00 am - 3:00 am E
11:00 pm - 2:00 am C
10:00 pm - 1:00 am M
9:00 pm - 12:00 am P

:cool:

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 00:09

Too be honest, Watching on my bigscreen, I still had issues seeing the action that was going on in the mini box. But It's better than nothing I suppose. And Windtunnel still talks about F1 but they shortened his program to 30minutes for some reason... Which is barely enough time to squeeze in everything that happened in a day, much less a week.

But They're going to be live at Canada and Texas and thats more than Speed ever did (or had a chance to do).

And my DVR had the F136 for Vettel scheduled but I guess they bumped it to what looks like April 6th.

And for GP2 I just get coverage else where...I'm not holding my breath for NBC to pick it up nor Fox Sports 1.

Speed was at Indianapolis live at least the first year. they were going to be live at Austin until they lost the 2013 contract. Windtunnel was cut down to save money and get it in a format for Fox Sports. The motorsport news program is Speed Center. There was a great deal of duplicate programming between the two. I like the tighter focus but it does go by rather quickly.

GP2 was on NBCSN in Malaysia. The european races are early enough in the morning they'll probably keep it.

#149 Deluxx

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:18

Really? My DVR didn't catch it, that's weird. They didn't even promote it or anything...

& yeah I know their plans got canned; but at least with the NBC budget they can do it right this time around :/

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:35

Really? My DVR didn't catch it, that's weird. They didn't even promote it or anything...

& yeah I know their plans got canned; but at least with the NBC budget they can do it right this time around :/

I cna't find it on the schedule and didn't watch it but at the beginning of the F1 preshow on the DVR I saw what looked to me to be a podium celebration with the announcer saying it was now time for the main event, or some such. I'll look at DVR when I get home (pretty sure I didn't delete it) to confirm.

I thought it was weak the way Speed cancelled the on site coverage from Austin when they lost the contract. To me that seemed petty particularly when the three amigos were there earlier in the week doing press events. :down: