What if the Mercedes is on the sharp end of the grid this year?

MercGP have been quick the last 2 seasons.

Let's wait until they race somewhere with some temperature and watch the rear tyres fall apart as usual.

Come on, it's Mercedes we're talking about. Don't worry, they will screw something up.

I think you got your silver cars mixed up. Mclaren are the ones that usually screw up.

That's not a small deal ....

Schumacher went to Ferrari without Ross and Byrne. Todt called them and got them for 1997. I guess Schumacher played a huge part in that transaction, surely he spook about these two with Todt and the opportunity to get them to Ferrari. On Lewis I agree, he I think his priority is to drive fast as he can, and his impact can't be big, because I wouldn't call him the political type that would like to be involved in team organization. Furthermore I can't see Stuttgart would allow that. In Schumacher case we had special situation

Indeedy. Look at 'BrackleyF1', when have they ever kept up during a season? Even in 09 they went from starting with a massive advantage to barely troubling the podium during the season.

All he can do is give his feedback and drive the wheels off of the car.

Actually, is driving the wheels off and locking in corners a good thing? Like Perez said yesterday, tyredeg is worse than ever and Sergio is said to be easy on tyres.

Is that a threat to Ham? Something that plays in favor of Jenson, for example?

Come on, it's Mercedes we're talking about. Don't worry, they will screw something up.

I'm telling you, Ross didn't do **** at Ferrari.

He has no idea how to run a team.

Hamilton joined Mercedes because he wanted to leave McLaren (for whatever reasons) and found his path out to Red Bull and Ferrari blocked. He took the best option he was left with at the end of the day - but he cant really say that so we get this 'challenge' story instead.

So in awnser to the question, and with my view in mind - if they have a decent car Hamilton will be doing cart-wheels down the pit lane waiving his 'get out of jail free card' around in delight.

After those, None what so ever.

Edited by Slackbladder, 21 February 2013 - 13:46.

"What if the Mercedes is on the sharp end of the grid this year?

lol at the subtle Ham dig, top posting.

Mercedes may not be at the sharpest end at the moment, but they are certainly looking better than most would have guessed.

Looks like the doomsayers are a little disappointed, time will tell who the pointy end will be, I'm thinking it will be the same old again but Mercedes are looking a lot better than most here thought possible.

... could it be that Michael's departure and Lewis joining the team gave the much desired boost?

Of course, Michael did. He was the one who told Jean and Luca to get Ross and Rory back in the game.... You cannot compare Ferrari with Mercedes in that environment. MGP got Niki Lauda, someone Ferrari knows all too well about how to run or consult a team, and he was terrible.

Unless Lewis can fundamentally change the laws of physics by departing McLaren, then his entering the team will have had zero affect on the current performance of the base car.

You ate a lot of Funnies yesterday?

Merc will probably start faster than last year, win a few races and give the fanboys an erection, then spend the rest of the year falling behind in development and having parts fail.

He still has no idea how to run a team.

He was there for the well-oiled machine of Ferrari, and apparently never learned anything.

It's amazing the free pass he has gotten for his ineptitude that's been on display for a few years.

Are you for real?

Yes I am for real.

Have you ever looked at all of the excuses Brawn has for why things don't go Mercedes way?

Ever noticed all the blind alleys the team runs down that don't amount to ****?

Brawn looks for a silver bullet, but since his old boss Max is no longer running the FIA, these things become more difficult to get.

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

Well, I¨m for one inclined to believe that he promised his new bosses that he'll be the first to downsize the team according to RRA, and naively felt for the trick other teams sold him. Guy is the legend in his own right in my book.

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

Well, I¨m for one inclined to believe that he promised his new bosses that he'll be the first to downsize the team according to RRA, and naively felt for the trick other teams sold him. Guy is the legend in his own right in my book.

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

People who keep bringing the phrase "fanboy" in to an argument to force their point remind me of most homophobics.

They keep harping on about the sanctimonity of it all..... But deep down they fancy a bit of willy.......

Is that what you mean by a target rich environment??

If Mercedes are on the sharp end of the grid this year, I think it'll be safe to assume that Schumacher had a major part in it, so much more than Rosberg or Hamilton. thus chalking up another "bringing a legendary manufacturer to the fore" for the GOAT.

No way.... i look at it as he was the problem. Goat isn't MSC in my opinion.

Michael was the least of MGP's problems.

The team itself has a fundamental problem starting from the top all the way to down.

It's called bad management, and poor organizational structure.

The only thing that may save this team in 2013 are the Pirelli Lotto specials.

He still has no idea how to run a team.

He was there for the well-oiled machine of Ferrari, and apparently never learned anything.

It's amazing the free pass he has gotten for his ineptitude that's been on display for a few years.

Schumi wasn't very good, 1 podium in 3 seasons. Hamilton is behind the wheel now. They have someone capable of a greater level of performance now and that's really what they need. 2012 was a wash due to that stupid ddrs and 2011 everybody got smashed by RBR, and 2010 i think they held their own for a new team so this exaggeration of Mercedes having issues cause of Ross Brawn is not a view i share.

Ferrari before MSC/Brawn/Byrne looked pretty hopeless with Todt at the helm too.


It is called chemistry.

When Mike Tyson left Kevin Rooney it went downhill for both of them. Together they were unbeatable. Things have to click.

Do I think Hamilton is that missing piece? No...but he is more 'English' than Schumacher so he may integrate better and quicker. Then again, if working with a 7 time world champion could not left their game...can Hamilton?

If John Barnard had done what Williams and Jordan did with the side impact rules in 1996, there's a possibility that the '96 Ferrari would have done well in Michael's hands. Michael won three races in that thing, which was not a very good car by any means.

Edited by George Costanza, 21 February 2013 - 21:06.

If Mercedes are on the sharp end of the grid this year, I think it'll be safe to assume that Schumacher had a major part in it, so much more than Rosberg or Hamilton. thus chalking up another "bringing a legendary manufacturer to the fore" for the GOAT.

Not sure if you noticed, but the car was a piece of ****.

Kind of hard to finish high when your own team has no idea on how to properly develop the car no?

He still has no idea how to run a team.

He was there for the well-oiled machine of Ferrari, and apparently never learned anything.

It's amazing the free pass he has gotten for his ineptitude that's been on display for a few years.