Webber in 2014

Ah but if Kimi goes to RedBull and then Mark goes to Lotus or even Ferrari (unlikely I know) then that would make 3 interesting team mate battles (Hammy v. Rosberg, Seb v. Kimi, Webber v. Alonso or other Lotus driver)

Ditto, purely because it will be the same same even if he has a race winning car. I'd prefer if Webber went to Lotus/Ferrari/Sports cars. A change will do him some good - who knows what the new regs will bring.

If Rebull if they sign up such an old consistent under achiever up again it will confirm they are the most one man team in the sport and don't care about it. Hopefully they finally sign up a fresh good driver who might be able to beat Vettel, but they will probably just sign up Riccardo who is young enough to spend the next decade as his number 2.

I don't. It's time for fresh blood at Red Bull. I'm a bit bored with the line up Vettel/Webber at that team.

I am sure you are because the two, while haven't been the best of friends, have managed to win the WCC in the last 3 seasons. Chances are they will get their 4th this year. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

NO fresh good driver will be able to beat Vettel right now.

For the same reason that Hamilton isn' t beating Rosberg.

And if Rosberg joined McLaren, I don't think he'd be beating Lewis (if Lewis stayed).

Edited by JHSingo, 24 June 2013 - 20:31.

Why would RedBull want to upset the applecart by getting rid of Webber?

1. He's no threat to Vettel.

Erm, isn't Lewis 20 points ahead of Nico?

/argument

According to Radio Le Mans (who are normally spot on with these things) a current Formula One driver had a seat fitting at Weissach recently.

Who could that possibly be?

Raikkonen is in the "Red Bull" family - they would like to bring the Iceman in at some point.

Well they've already signed Neel Jani, an ex F1 tester... how many cars are they hoping to enter next year?

Edited by handel, 25 June 2013 - 11:55.

I'd say that if those days weren't already gone, the chances of that happening are virtually non-existent.

Given what happened to Kubica, F1 teams these days are reluctant to let drivers do anything beyond eating, sleeping and breathing...

If i were a team based in the UK i'd be looking at Mark as a potential guy to run my Junior drivers. As in mentor them, teach them the ropes, test with them etc. He can still do leMans.

Edited by lbennie, 26 June 2013 - 02:05.

Apparently Didi has told the german media that he is very keen for mark to drive for them next year and that an offer is on the table for him....

I wish Mark the best of luck in whatever he decides to do.

I hope he writes a book down the line, and I hope there is no NDO from his time at Red Bull, I'm sure he'd had some candid things to say...

New deal?

Edited by DILLIGAF, 26 June 2013 - 10:25.

Yup. Mark has dealt directly with DM since mid 2010. It's clear that Mark & DM have a very good relationship. Straight forward & honest with each other & obviously a mutual respect. Safe to say Horner or Marko are irrelevant when it comes to Webbo's contracts at RBR.

Edited by Sakae, 26 June 2013 - 11:15.

New deal?

How many more times does he need to be screwed over by Red Bull to smell the coffee and move out of there?!

The real question is, how many more times is a certain group of people on internet forums going to stop assuming Mark Webber is an idiot, and maybe consider he's given a fair chance and is genuinely slower than his team-mate.

How many more times does he need to be screwed over by Red Bull to smell the coffee and move out of there?!

He isn't going to win a title with Red Bull as long as Vettel is there, that much has been blatantly clear in the last few years.

Edited by Sakae, 26 June 2013 - 13:44.

The real question is, how many more times is a certain group of people on internet forums going to stop assuming Mark Webber is an idiot, and maybe consider he's given a fair chance and is genuinely slower than his team-mate.

I, like many Webber 'fans' believe that Vettel is faster, but then again, I am one of those unique few who actually quite like Vettel, I just think Webber is better than people give him credit for and people are just naive at how talented Vettel really is

Pre 2009- a lot of people were expecting Webber to give Vettel a good hiding or certainly he would have the edge- that's how highly he was rated
Now, Webber has very quickly been made out to be useless to diminish Vettel's achievements

The opposite of Hamilton teaming up with Rosberg- finding it a hard match- and now everyone is saying Rosberg is the 2nd coming.

...yet forgetting how Webbo fared against Rosberg, or make excuses for a rookie year (which of course never comes into play in the HAM/ALO lovefest).
Sometimes I don't know whether to or at these kind of things.

Webber really doesn't deserve half the flack his talents get.

Would you turn down 10 million euros and the chance to drive the fastest car on earth just because your team-mate received preferential treatment? Not many would.

I wish Mark the best of luck in whatever he decides to do.

I hope he writes a book down the line, and I hope there is no NDO from his time at Red Bull, I'm sure he'd had some candid things to say...

How many more times does he need to be screwed over by Red Bull to smell the coffee and move out of there?!

He isn't going to win a title with Red Bull as long as Vettel is there, that much has been blatantly clear in the last few years.

When DM declared last year that in his team there is no No. 1 (or 2), then was he not telling the truth, or people like Horner simply decided to disobey their master and the guy who keeps cash flowing into their bank accounts, and have mind on their own who receives a preferential treatment, and who is not? I think that mnmracer might be onto something here.

Edited by Junky, 27 June 2013 - 08:11.