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Silverstone Test 24-26th June 2008

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#101 amardeep

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:03

A few pictures are available at
http://www.xpb.cc

A page for pictures, but no pictures yet, at
http://www.sutton-images.com/

#102 Raifosa

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:10

Originally posted by raikkonenpower
any times yet?

From the Renault blog:
So far Massa in the Ferrari is at the top of the times on a 1:21.287. He's followed by Rosberg, Kovalainen, Kubica, Webber Button, Piquet, Kobayashi, Liuzzi, Vettel.

Nothing more

#103 gbrand42

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:42

Any news yet about what areas are open - is it just Farm?

#104 Raifosa

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:11

Times at midday:

1 MAS 1:20.188 32
2 KUB 1:21.437 31
3 KOV 1:21.530 34
4 ROS 1:21.619 41
5 WEB 1:21.636 40
6 BUT 1:22.591 30
7 PIQ 1:23.453 28
8 VET 1:23.853 10
9 LIU 1:24.258 44
10 KOB 1:24.317 29

#105 y2cragie

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:29

Originally posted by gbrand42
Any news yet about what areas are open - is it just Farm?

theres a video posted on the link above that looks like it was taken from Luffield. I hope thats the case.

#106 intelligentsia

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:38

#107 intelligentsia

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:51

#108 Raifosa

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:13

1 MAS 1:20.188 56
2 KUB 1:21.437 45
3 KOV 1:21.505 48
4 ROS 1:21.619 53
5 WEB 1:21.636 56
6 BUT 1:22.591 41
7 PIQ 1:22.780 47
8 KOB 1:23.447 43
9 LIU 1:23.593 64
10 VET 1:23.853 10

#109 ARG

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:27

Let´s move to Hockenheim, another Ferrari 1-2 in Silverstone...

#110 klover

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:47

Originally posted by ARG
Let´s move to Hockenheim, another Ferrari 1-2 in Silverstone...

McLaren should be competitive at Silverstone unless Ferrari has outpaced them in their development over the last few weeks.

#111 kar

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 13:01

Originally posted by ARG
Let´s move to Hockenheim, another Ferrari 1-2 in Silverstone...

Ferrari will be stronger in Hockenheim than at Silverstone of that I'm pretty sure. Silverstone is a pretty pure aero circuit with mostly high speed corners, and only one big braking zone of any merit. McLaren can probably tune their balance to emphasise the front end grip without suffering quite as much in the slow speed sections.

Hockenheim is more start->stop and has a more even mixture of high speed and low speed corners. In that sense McLaren will have to compromise its setup more relative to what it would at Silverstone.

Massa is a machine at Hockenheim too, it was one of the few circuits where he genuinely outpaced Michael Schumacher from Friday to Sunday fuel corrected. (Even though he had to play the team game that weekend).

If McLaren struggle to match Ferrari at Silverstone I think they might as well pack up for 2008 and concentrate on their two cars for 2009.

#112 shonguiz

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 15:40

Old engine cover is back.

#113 stevvy1986

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:10

am i the only 1 annoyed/confused by the decision to test at silverstone (and hockenheim) barely 2 weeks before those races?its bad enough the teams pounding round barcelona all winter knowing it means we'll get a procession there,but surely all this testing,on the same track as they'll be racing on in 10 days time (give or take) just means we'll probably get 2 processions there as well?should they ban testing at F1 tracks that hold races?just curious as to what you guys think,cos clearly barcelona is a prime example of plenty of testing = boring race at that track

#114 modamas

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:13

Final times for the day:

1 MAS 1:20.188 71
2 KOV 1:20.477 90
3 KUB 1:20.995 82
4 KOB 1:21.335 82
5 ROS 1:21.410 88
6 WEB 1:21.565 94
7 PIQ 1:21.797 68
8 BUT 1:22.081 90
9 LIU 1:22.250 108
10 VET 1:23.853 10

(source: Renault blog)

#115 AFCA

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:15

Vettel having a bad day there I'm afraid...

Originally posted by stevvy1986
am i the only 1 annoyed/confused by the decision to test at silverstone (and hockenheim) barely 2 weeks before those races?its bad enough the teams pounding round barcelona all winter knowing it means we'll get a procession there,but surely all this testing,on the same track as they'll be racing on in 10 days time (give or take) just means we'll probably get 2 processions there as well?should they ban testing at F1 tracks that hold races?just curious as to what you guys think,cos clearly barcelona is a prime example of plenty of testing = boring race at that track

Certainly that wouldn't be a bad idea. Perhaps they could make an exception for Barcelona but as you say, testing at Silverstone and Hockenheim prior to racing there isn't ideal. The Friday practice sessions will be boring I'm afraid...

With the endless trackoptions at Paul Ricard, why not go and test there more often ?

#116 Clatter

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:18

Originally posted by stevvy1986
am i the only 1 annoyed/confused by the decision to test at silverstone (and hockenheim) barely 2 weeks before those races?its bad enough the teams pounding round barcelona all winter knowing it means we'll get a procession there,but surely all this testing,on the same track as they'll be racing on in 10 days time (give or take) just means we'll probably get 2 processions there as well?should they ban testing at F1 tracks that hold races?just curious as to what you guys think,cos clearly barcelona is a prime example of plenty of testing = boring race at that track

I'm not convinced it makes that much difference. It's the track/cars that conspire to make a boring race, not how much they test there.

#117 stevvy1986

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:22

what i mean is like,the teams even before they get to friday practice basically have near enough the perfect setup anyway (give or take) making friday almost pointless and meaning by the time they even get to the friday sessions,everyne knows where they are,whats gonna happen,how fast they'll be etc and so almost knowing the result in advance-i know barcelona they test at all times of year,but to test at a track barely 2 weeks before you race there just seems a bit daft to me (to the teams it may not,i accept that) but really its not going to help matters-i appreciate its the cars and tracks as well that mean races arent that good now (even silverstone seems to have gone from a place where u'd see loads of overtaking,to basically only seeing any in the pits,if cars are out of position (eg massa last year) or if the conditions are changable (eg silverstone 2002)

#118 Clatter

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 16:22

Originally posted by AFCA
The Friday practice sessions will be boring I'm afraid...

That was certainly true when they had to use the race engines, but with the current rules they will normally do plenty of running. Don't forget they used to be able to use 2 cars at the tests, now its only 1. Come race weekend the weather conditions could be totally different. Last year was very exciting with the high winds, quite a few cars had problems round copse.

#119 condor

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 17:09

Loads of track action today and great weather :cool:

It's open from Club up to Luffield, so plenty of seats and space

#120 dank

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 17:10

Originally posted by condor
Loads of track action today and great weather
It's open from Club up to Luffield, so plenty of seats and space

That's cool! Can't wait until Thursday when I get the chance to pop down there.

#121 AFCA

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 17:26

Testing at Silverstone: Massa the fastest

Maranello, 24th June

Circuit: Silverstone Circuit - 5.141 km
Driver: Felipe Massa
Car: F2008
Weather: air temperature 20/25 °C, track temperature 23/32 °C. Clear skies in the morning, cloudy in the afternoon.

No time to rest for the Formula 1 teams this week. Less than forty eight hours after the end of the French Grand prix, all teams competing in the World Championship met up again at Silverstone for the first of three days of testing.

Sitting in the cockpit of Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro's F2008 was the winner of the Magny-Cours race, Felipe Massa. The series leader worked on development of new aerodynamic and mechanical solutions, as well as taking an initial look at set-up on the car for the British Grand Prix, which takes place at this track on 6th July. The outcome of this first day was reasonably positive, with Felipe setting the fastest time of the day in 1.20:188. He completed 71 laps, with just a small problem towards the end of the day preventing the completion of the programme.

Testing resumes at this track tomorrow morning, still with Felipe Massa on track. On Thursday, it will be Kimi Raikkonen's turn to get into the F2008 cockpit.

#122 Suzy

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 18:23

Good news folks! Club, Abbey, Farm, Bridge, Luffield A and the Pit Straight grandstands are all open to the public! However, you cannot go any further down the track than the Pedestrian Bridge on the start/finish line. Also, Woodcote grandstands and terraces are closed; if you go into the Luffield B/Woodcote A Terrace you will be asked to leave it.

There is also a mini shopping village between Club and Abbey so you can get some (overpriced as usual) merchandise there.

It's been extremely hot today - I have a nose as red as Massa's Ferrari! I'm looking forward to more action tomorrow. Pictures from today will be online at some point soon (e.g. when I've sorted them out).

#123 Lukin83

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 18:27

128 photos of day one: http://www.racefreak...bum&albumid=909. "Volgende pagina" means "next page".

#124 PRD

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 18:43

Originally posted by condor
Loads of track action today and great weather
It's open from Club up to Luffield, so plenty of seats and space

I had no idea that testing was on today, but happened to drive pass Silverstone and heard the sound of F1 engines.

Paid £15 on the gate for an enjoyable hour or so watching F1 cars :smoking:

#125 Lazarus II

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 19:03

Originally posted by Suzy
It's been extremely hot today - ...

Depends on your definition of "hot".
I'd love 25 °C!
Here it's 35 °C with a dew point of 22 °C = hot & sticky...wait until August. :eek:

#126 y2cragie

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 19:24

So what? You can buy tickets on the gate despite them saying you couldn't?
If thats the case it's incredibly annoying.

and thankyou for the information, lots of good viewing places at least:)

#127 Martin Dewey

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 20:01

Was there any commentary at the circuit? I remember having regular updates of the times during the day last year.

#128 Pubis

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 21:31

Yes there was commentary, and this year they are allowed to see the timing screens as the teams have agreed to it, so they can actually commentate on the times!

#129 philhitchings

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 21:43

Club!! excellent :cool:

there must be loads of photogs there

#130 goNelsinho

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:23

Well done Nelson, you were great in France.;)
I have heard that the Honda car sound is very bad. :down:

Or maybe are they testing the KERS? Do you know anything?

#131 raikkonenpower

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:34

do we have any links covering testing in silverstone today?also any times yet?

#132 stevvy1986

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:44

Originally posted by y2cragie
So what? You can buy tickets on the gate despite them saying you couldn't?
If thats the case it's incredibly annoying.

and thankyou for the information, lots of good viewing places at least:)

id imagine thats because they didnt expect the demand they got and realised they'd have to open more areas to view from,and wouldnt have been enough time to get tickets out before the test

#133 intelligentsia

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:21

- Vettel was doing lots of laps (because they had the problems yesterday).

- Webber has stopped on track, causing a red flag.

- At the moment it is raining.

#134 kar

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:29

Originally posted by intelligentsia
- Vettel was doing lots of laps (because they had the problems yesterday).

- Webber has stopped on track, causing a red flag.

- At the moment it is raining.

It's pretty overcast where I'm at at the moment, usually Northants cops this in an hour or so, so typical English weather. All four seasons - in the one day!

#135 ImmortaL

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:33

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#136 Hacklerf

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:34

im 30mins from silverstone and it just started pissing down here

#137 ImmortaL

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:35

http://www.sutton-im...gb0825jun21.jpg
http://www.sutton-im...gb0825jun16.jpg

#138 Enkei

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:56

Originally posted by ImmortaL
http://www.sutton-im...gb0825jun16.jpg [/B]

Testing the lawnmowing capabilities of a Red Bull there?;)

#139 intelligentsia

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:56

1. KOV 1:20.266
4. PIQ 1:21.672 37

- It is windy the so track is drying out fast, some cars are out again on track.

#140 Rogerek

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:20

Lunch time results:

1 KOV 1:20.015 38
2 ROS 1:20.624 40
3 KUB 1:21.023 38
4 MAS 1:21.069 43
5 VET 1:21.447 57
6 PIQ 1:21.559 63
7 BUT 1:21.580 60
8 TRU 1:21.580 54
9 FIS 1:21.583 52
10 WEB N/A 4

Source:
http://my.ing-renaul...-June-2008.html

#141 rodlamas

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:21

Times at 13:00 local time. Weather has improves but some clouds are gathering in.

1 KOV 1:20.015 38
2 ROS 1:20.624 40
3 KUB 1:21.023 38
4 MAS 1:21.069 43
5 VET 1:21.447 57
6 PIQ 1:21.559 63
7 BUT 1:21.580 60
8 TRU 1:21.580 54
9 FIS 1:21.583 52
10 WEB N/A 4

#142 Francesc

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:22

Force India shark fin
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#143 bowser

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:50

I wonder if Honda will run their lower new nose (which they did yesterday) at the British GP?

New nose cone: http://f1.gpupdate.n...3576&catID=3117
Old nose cone: http://f1.gpupdate.n...3553&catID=3117

#144 AFCA

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:55

That's F2001-alike and certainly demanded a new crashtest by the looks of it.

#145 ImmortaL

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 14:29

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#146 glorius&victorius

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 14:45

Originally posted by bowser
[B]I wonder if Honda will run their lower new nose (which they did yesterday) at the British GP?
New nose cone: http://f1.gpupdate.n...3576&catID=3117

that new nosecone looks like it has been in the sun too long :lol:

#147 y2cragie

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 15:07

Just back from Silverstone, Suzy, really sorry the one thing I forgot to do this morning was store your number. Sorry.

Good day out, Webbers been having problems all day, the Ferrari sounded like it had another problem just before lunch and wasn't to be seen for an hour after, (i left at this point) Great vantage points open for photographs so I hope to have some up soon for you guys.

#148 AFCA

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 15:40

Over a lap at Silverstone Ferrari keeps being in front of McLaren and BMW Sauber. McLaren can keep up in the fast parts, BMW Sauber in the slow parts but they loose time to Ferrari in the parts that are not suited to their cars.

At Magny-Cours BMW Sauber only introduced small changes to the frontwing, the deflectors and the floor. A planned bigger modification was taken off again because the results on track didn't correspond with that from the windtunnel. Rampf is prepared to sacrifice capacities reserved for next year's car in case the team find something promising for the current car: ''Normally this late in the year we would mainly concentrate the development on 2009. Now, still being in the top group in the championship, we will decide (what to do) from occassion to occassion. When it's worth it, a new development will stay in the windtunnel one or two days longer to fully get tested. In years in which our WC position was secured we would have perhaps cancelled that the development for the sake of the year that was to come.''

But the technical director excludes 2009 project groupes laying down their work in order to briefly do some work on the current car: ''Nowadays you can't do that anymore because many departments are closely intertwined. We can't take away people from a project from one day to another saying: 'Right, for the next couple of weeks you'll be doing something else'. You cannot simply stop the parts department or get it running again either. These are complex processes.''

McLaren on the other hand will keep fully concentrating on 2008 for a long time. Whitmarsh: ''Till week 35 (the last week of August) we will further develop full steam ahead. Only after that focus goes to next year's car.''

#149 y2cragie

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 15:45

AFCA, one thing I noticed and the guys that came to the track with me noticed was the differance as to when the drivers were picking up the throttle in luffield. Massa was on the throttle well before halfway through the corner and at full throttle before he was leaving it to the main straight. Kovi was not able to pick up the throttle till he was just exiting the corner and Kubica was around the 3/4's mark. Your only talking the space of 30 to 40 meters max but I suppose it makes a big differance in lap times.