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Why do you think Red Bull didn't offer DC a new contract?

Started by Perigee , Jul 03 2008 15:14

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Poll: Why do you think Red Bull didn't offer DC a new contract? (145 member(s) have cast votes)

Because RBR thought DC was no longer good enough (64 votes [44.14%])
Percentage of vote: 44.14%
Because DC WANTED to retire, and he didn't want a new contract (58 votes [40.00%])
Percentage of vote: 40.00%
Because DC wanted too much money (8 votes [5.52%])
Percentage of vote: 5.52%
Man, would you want a face like that on YOUR company's marketing material? (5 votes [3.45%])
Percentage of vote: 3.45%
Other (please comment) (10 votes [6.90%])
Percentage of vote: 6.90%

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#1 Perigee

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:14

Ok, there's a seperate thread...but it has no poll!

Why do you think RBR did not offer DC a new contract?

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#2 pUs

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:27

My goodness.. no poll. Great to see you made one then. :

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#3 Clatter

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:38

I think its because RB believe they can put someone better in the seat. He has been talking his position up recently, so IMHO if could have kept racing for them he would have.

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#4 djellison

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:39

You make the assumption that he was pushed, rather than jumped. On what basis do you state that RB did not or were never going to offer a new contract ro DC?

Doug

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#5 primer

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:43

He's too old, not consistently quick and it is also possible that he himself might not want to carry on the burden. Besides, for a company like Red Bull sticking to one face for long time does not seem good marketing strategy, particularly when they are not winning races with the said driver(s).

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#6 Tomecek

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:44

I voted for Because DC WANTED to retire, and he didn't want a new contract, because I know it.

His girlfriend is pregnant.

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#7 Perigee

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 15:56

Originally posted by djellison
You make the assumption that he was pushed, rather than jumped. On what basis do you state that RB did not or were never going to offer a new contract ro DC?

Doug

See Option 2

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#8 Ricardo F1

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 17:26

Because they want Vettel in the seat. And it sounds like they do have a new contract with DC, just not as a racing driver.

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#9 tkulla

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 17:35

They wanted to bring Vettel up, figuring he is ready for prime time. IMO DC has done an excellent job at Red Bull as far as leadership goes. His Q problems have held him back a bit, but he's been the points scorer and developer they've needed.

Oh, and I want to get this on the record - Webber will dominate SV next year 2 to 1 in qualy and points.

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#10 SoBizarre

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 18:18

Originally posted by tkulla
(...)Oh, and I want to get this on the record - Webber will dominate SV next year 2 to 1 in qualy and points.

AMEN to that.

I rate Webber highly and would feel pretty stupid if he got bitten by Vettel boy.

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#11 Buttoneer

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 22:37

Originally posted by Tomecek
I voted for Because DC WANTED to retire, and he didn't want a new contract, because I know it.

His girlfriend is pregnant.

I hope this is true. Good for DC and congrats.

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#12 pablo_a

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 04:39

DC is obviously vastly experienced, can be quick and must be a great asset in terms of feedback for development etc (hence is future role with RB)...but really, apart from canada, webber has covered him hardcore in a race weekend sense this year. I'm not sure retirement would have necessarily been on the agenda as soon for him if this had not been the case?

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#13 911

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 05:59

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Because they want Vettel in the seat. And it sounds like they do have a new contract with DC, just not as a racing driver.

Ditto.

Does anyone here think if Vettel goes to RB that this could open up the door for Bruno Senna at STR?

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#14 Rabbit123

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 15:32

Red Bull probably thought it was time for a new driver. Perhaps a serious new talent like Vettel!

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#15 FeralMetal

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 19:37

After his autobiography last year , the clues were there that this was his last year, he probably decided at the time he put his hotel up for sale , the decision was his, but this thread is just another opportunity for some to throw vitriol in his direction, I wonder who they will hate next?

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#16 Tomecek

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 23:06

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I hope this is true. Good for DC and congrats.

It is. I am in touch with one guy, who used to work for West and is now close friend and in fact colleague of DC. So I hope I have reliable information!

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#17 Smudger

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 23:33

Originally posted by djellison
You make the assumption that he was pushed, rather than jumped. On what basis do you state that RB did not or were never going to offer a new contract ro DC?

Doug

Has there been any sensible answer to this question? Or is it true because someone wrote it on the internet?

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#18 Juan Kerr

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 01:05

Because Gerhard Berger wants Bruno Senna and Christian Horner wants Sebastien Vettel. I'm sure they all love David Coulthard but they need to unleash the Senna name ;)
To be fair to Bruno(which a lot of idiots are not!) he is really holding his own and his pace looks great and he's still inside his limits apparently.

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#19 Atreiu

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 01:51

They just came a mutual and reasonable agreement that his time has come.

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#20 eoin

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 13:33

Todays result says it all.

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#21 SeanValen

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 13:42

It's ashame, I remember a time when DC was fast in quali, I don't think from the 2003 rules onwards he was the same threat in quali as before, he tried the best with his race pace, but he definately lost something through the changes in 2003.

But I wouldn't generalise that much from quali, Massa, Hamilton also under performed, it was a wind hit quali, I'm sure DC should of been higher up, he's got a good chance for his best race of the year.

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#22 GiancarloF1

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 13:44

He is not good enough anymore...

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#23 Mauseri

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 13:59

He doesnt want to continue, because he knows he isnt a good enough anymore, and Red Bull knows this too they could have sonmeone better in the car.

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#24 eoin

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 16:31

Originally posted by SeanValen
It's ashame, I remember a time when DC was fast in quali, I don't think from the 2003 rules onwards he was the same threat in quali as before, he tried the best with his race pace, but he definately lost something through the changes in 2003.

But I wouldn't generalise that much from quali, Massa, Hamilton also under performed, it was a wind hit quali, I'm sure DC should of been higher up, he's got a good chance for his best race of the year.

Yes he has a chance of getting a good result tomorrow due to the weather, but that's not what you want from your driver. This has been going on for years, and probably all of his career- he just doesn't have it in qualifying. There was a time in F1 when 3-4 tenths in qualifying meant 2 or 3 positions, now it means 5 or 6.