The 2009 cars are really seriously ugly (merged)

Originally posted by Barramut

FIA is miles away from NBA, NFL or the Premier League.

Originally posted by Viktor
I have to say that from what we have seen so far of the 2009 cars, e.g. the F60, the cars will be beautiful, very beautiful.

/Viktor

Originally posted by Muzzinho
Clatter is right.

All my sources from Red Bull says Newey has come up with something different which is a potential race winner and may be the dominant car of the season.

Originally posted by Lazarus II

It's a bit premature to call it "fantastic racing", but not premature to call the cars ugly.

Originally posted by Hippo
Both the BMW hybrid and the F60 are indeed ugly imho. We'll see how the others may look. I don't expect them to be beauties either. But for what it's worth, there's at least the chance of us getting more exciting races. Although I'm not too sure about that one. We had some very exciting racing last year, but instead of celebrating it some people spoiled it with all their whining, bitching and politics.

Originally posted by Hippo
Both the BMW hybrid and the F60 are indeed ugly imho. We'll see how the others may look. I don't expect them to be beauties either.

Originally posted by Risil


Okay, setting aside the wet races, and the two safety car/pit window afflicted events, which exciting races were there?

Originally posted by hsvone
Well I predict carnage at the first corners of nearly every race. How will they avoid each others 'snowplough' front wings. And as for Monaco.

Clumsy is the one word I use to describe the 2009 look. Still after watching the youtube clip of the F60 they don't look so bad in motion.

First post of 2009!

Originally posted by Bos
I think with the older cars we were distracted a bit by the wider rear tyres (maybe just the really old cars) or maybe the the sparks from the undertray scraping the ground ...which I WANT to see again...badly

Or maybe we didn't mind back then because we knew/thought those wings were the ultimate of racing technology, whereas now, we know that this shape is a dumbed down version and no longer on the edge of what's technically possible.

Actually I feel exactly that way about engines. With the V8's as skinny as they are, the only thing exciting about them was when, for example, when McLaren was revving them beyond 20k rpm in 2006. Watching onboards at Monza, you KNOW the engine was straining. And now, I know they're capable of at least 20k, but the rules are limiting them to 18k, and even further in the future (without modification to the stroke). I understand Max and FOTA are cutting costs in areas that make no difference for the viewer. I might be a small minority, but it makes a difference for me. It's more exciting to know that an engine is being pushed and can blow at any time. If it looks too contrived and safe, I just end up falling asleep.

A little OT sorry

Originally posted by Pingguest
Last year I thought the cars looked ugly and it couldn't be much worse. Sadly though, the OWG proved me otherwise: cars could be made even uglier.

Originally posted by ascoli


Are you sure that 2008 looks better than 2009? No contest in my opinion.

http://www.mschumach...F2008vsF60.html
http://www.mschumach...008vsF60.2.html
http://www.mschumach...008vsF60.3.html
http://www.mschumach...008vsF60.4.html
http://www.mschumach...008vsF60.5.html
http://www.mschumach...008vsF60.6.html

Originally posted by GerardF1
After we see a race or two the style of the cars will be unimportant.

in 98 when the new narrow cars came out - they were as fugly as you could get - universially denounced.

Now that the new cars are out people are screaming for the old "ugly" cars

Originally posted by ascoli


Are you sure that 2008 looks better than 2009? No contest in my opinion.

Originally posted by BuzzingHornet
The front and rear wings both look completely stupid, and make the cars look ridiculous.

I understand the thinking behind changing the aero but couldnt therebe a more aethetically pleasing way to do it..?

Originally posted by Welsh


You decided this after only 1 team launch?

I think there is only one thing that looks stupid and ridiculous at the moment....... ^

Originally posted by Buttoneer
It's no lower than it was before the last rule change to raise it. or the one before that, I forget. Point is, it's been that low in recent years.

Originally posted by pingu666
that test config f2008 looks freakin awsome
and im not really a huge ferrari fan either..

Originally posted by John B
The jury's out on whether there will be much competition improvement, or likely everyone continuing to chase McLaren and Ferrari. In that event, much like being in a relationship if it's not great better to at least look good in the process....;)

Might be time to start a poll on the series with the ugliest cars....that's an active competition now for sure.

Originally posted by Rabbit123
I don't think all these rule changes were even necessary. I mean, 2008 was like, one of the best seasons ever. perhaps a with a slight lack of overtaking, but the Hamilton/Massa battle and Vettel's success and everything else has really got the world's attention, it's been a season full of surprises and excitement. It seems strange that just as F1 is really coming good, people are moaning that it's not exciting enough and there's no overtaking. Fine, bring back slick tyres, that's a good idea; but all this over stuff with the massive front wings and the simple body shape and everything, there's no need for that.

Originally posted by paranoik0
I'm reaching the conclusion that these cars' looks really depend on the angles you look at them. From certain angles they look perfectly normal, even awesome. For example, I really like this pic of the Toyota:......

Originally posted by superstring
The way I see it is the front and rear wing don't work in visual harmony. There's a fundamental visual imbalance. A race car NEEDS to be beautiful and these cars are NOT! The front wings look better suited to "cow catching" duty on the front of some steam locomotive.

Ron Dennis hit the nail on the head when he said that McLarens have always been designed with esthetics in mind as well as performance!