Where has the dignity of the sport gone? I saw all three drivers at the press conference laughing together at one point. I remember Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton showing us how serious F1 is. These guys make F1 look fun! FIA needs to put an end to drivers making ridicule of this fantastic sport.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:25
I like the days of of Senna/Prost/Mansell at a press conference, not even able to look at one another, barely even acknowledging one another...
The days of Berger jokingly tapping Mansell's injured foot at a drivers' meeting, and Mansell putting him up against the wall for it...
Ah, those were the days...
Generations ago already, though...
The days of Berger jokingly tapping Mansell's injured foot at a drivers' meeting, and Mansell putting him up against the wall for it...
Ah, those were the days...
Generations ago already, though...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:27
Originally posted by Motormedia
Where has the dignity of the sport gone? I saw all three drivers at the press conference laughing together at one point. I remember Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton showing us how serious F1 is. These guys make F1 look fun! FIA needs to put an end to drivers making ridicule of this fantastic sport.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:27
It's all part of Bernies master plan - destroy the world's economy just to fix F1.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:31
Smileys are there for something ;)
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:33
Originally posted by Ferrim
Smileys are there for something ;)
You mean to help the foolish get the joke? I prefer it without and was waiting for someone to take the bait.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:34
*remembers Irvine/Hakkinen chase around the conference room*
Those were the days ;)
Those were the days ;)
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:41
Originally posted by Scotracer
*remembers Irvine/Hakkinen chase around the conference room*
Those were the days ;)
Yeah, but it's getting gay to the point of someday there's gonna be golden showers and facials...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:44
If the same drivers were involved in a title fight with two races to go you can bet they wouldn't be so friendly
They never get much chance to be interviewed in that room and are all just happy to be there... for now
They never get much chance to be interviewed in that room and are all just happy to be there... for now
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:44
It's because all of them think they've done amazingly well and can't believe their luck 
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:46
Originally posted by JazH
It's because all of them think they've done amazingly well and can't believe their luck
Yes, all three are very familiar with the back of the grid. Great podium.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:47
Originally posted by JazH
It's because all of them think they've done amazingly well and can't believe their luck
Exactly. They all have good cars for the first time in years. I'm surprised they're not up on the table drinking beer and waving their cocks about.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:48
any videos for the PC ?
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:48
Originally posted by Gilles12
If the same drivers were involved in a title fight with two races to go you can bet they wouldn't be so friendly
They never get much chance to be interviewed in that room and are all just happy to be there... for now
Quite possible, but I also like to believe that some drivers thought themselves to be Gods gift to motorsports when it actually was their teams that provided them with great cars year after year. Now that Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton has to eat some humble pie, perhaps they will start to show some real emotions when they eventually make their return among the top guys.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:51
Originally posted by Motormedia
Quite possible, but I also like to believe that some drivers thought themselves to be Gods gift to motorsports when it actually was their teams that provided them with great cars year after year. Now that Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton has to eat some humble pie, perhaps they will start to show some real emotions when they eventually make their return among the top guys.
No. They are professionals. It's all about concentration and application. The time to celebrate is after the race, not after qualifying.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:53
The opening post is so much nonsence.The three serious people detest each other so do you expect them to smile?The other three get on together.Serious,its supposed to be a sport,since when is it supposed to be serious.Rugby knock five bells out of each other and then have a drink and laugh and thats a lot more dangerous than the new F1.It's not that important in life.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:55
Originally posted by Madras
No. They are professionals. It's all about concentration and application. The time to celebrate is after the race, not after qualifying.
Actually, I think a mandatory celebration before the race would set things straight again, if you ask Kimi...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:56
Originally posted by john ruston
The opening post is so much nonsence.The three serious people detest each other so do you expect them to smile?The other three get on together.Serious,its supposed to be a sport,since when is it supposed to be serious.Rugby knock five bells out of each other and then have a drink and laugh and thats a lot more dangerous than the new F1.It's not that important in life.
Here's the guy who needed the smiley
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:58
Originally posted by Motormedia
Quite possible, but I also like to believe that some drivers thought themselves to be Gods gift to motorsports when it actually was their teams that provided them with great cars year after year. Now that Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton has to eat some humble pie, perhaps they will start to show some real emotions when they eventually make their return among the top guys.
Those 3 drivers (Kim, Alo, Ham) have already won a WDC, so I think that it's really true that they are very gifted to drive a car.
Are they not humble? Maybe true, specially in Ham's case. But also it's just normal when you are fighting at the peak of a so competitive sport.
I'd say that the only driver who doesn't show real emotions is Kimi.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:58
For these conferences, I think the drivers should wear 3-piece business suits and ties... and read from prepared statements... with their best frowny-face... and end each statement with a "harumphhhh"...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:59
Originally posted by Motormedia
Quite possible, but I also like to believe that some drivers thought themselves to be Gods gift to motorsports when it actually was their teams that provided them with great cars year after year. Now that Kimi, Alonso and Hamilton has to eat some humble pie, perhaps they will start to show some real emotions when they eventually make their return among the top guys.
Hardly. When Alonso won his first couple of races, the clowning around and animal impersonations marked him as a cheerful joker. For the first few races of his F1 career, Lewis was all cheesy grins and "I'm just living the dream". Any driver who does unexpectedly well will be laughing and joking and a pleasure to be around. They only became hyper-serious when they started expecting to win and don't.
It'll be no different for Button, Vettel and Trulli. The moment they start expecting to win, they'll greet any setback, no matter how minor, like someone just wafted a dog turd under their nose.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:01
Originally posted by Tolyngee
Yeah, but it's getting gay to the point of someday there's gonna be golden showers and facials...
Only if Max gets pole.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:07
Originally posted by Rich
Hardly. When Alonso won his first couple of races, the clowning around and animal impersonations marked him as a cheerful joker. For the first few races of his F1 career, Lewis was all cheesy grins and "I'm just living the dream". Any driver who does unexpectedly well will be laughing and joking and a pleasure to be around. They only became hyper-serious when they started expecting to win and don't.
It'll be no different for Button, Vettel and Trulli. The moment they start expecting to win, they'll greet any setback, no matter how minor, like someone just wafted a dog turd under their nose.
You are right but it only shows that F1 needs to be more dynamic than it has been in the past 30 years with two or three teams dominating from one season to another. F1 needs the unexpected!
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:19
I'm sure Mr Surinder Thatti, a chief steward at Malaysia and a well-known champion of perfectly shaven racing drivers, won't miss this undignified incident. Sure he'll write another letter to get the proper order restored.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:20
Originally posted by Motormedia
You are right but it only shows that F1 needs to be more dynamic than it has been in the past 30 years with two or three teams dominating from one season to another. F1 needs the unexpected!
So how do we do that? Weight penalties for the faster teams? New rules which make it harder for the successful teams while favouring the backmarkers? Stewards ordered to be harsher on frontrunners than on midfielders? Reverse grids? A lucky draw rather than qualifying to determine grid order? Development bans for the top half of the grid but not the bottom? I'm sure that if Max mooted any of these, there'd be roars of approval from the RC membership.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:22
Originally posted by ensign14
I'm a cat-lover and I know that cat isn't about to take any crap from anyone or anything.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:26
Originally posted by Rich
So how do we do that? Weight penalties for the faster teams? New rules which make it harder for the successful teams while favouring the backmarkers? Stewards ordered to be harsher on frontrunners than on midfielders? Reverse grids? Development bans for the top half of the grid but not the bottom? I'm sure that if Max mooted any of these, there'd be roars of approval from the RC membership.
I think what is needed is a change to the economical structure within the sport so we won't see a couple of teams running away just because they have unlimited resources. Within that structure, there should be straight forward competition without any of the artificial measures you mention. Of course, if Mosley gets what he wants we are on the way to a more dynamic future. Unfortunatley, there will be fierce resistance and in the near future there will prolly be a lot of controversy and conflict.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:32
Originally posted by Motormedia
I think what is needed is a change to the economical structure within the sport so we won't see a couple of teams running away just because they have unlimited resources.
Brawn GP have unlimited resources?
Originally posted by Motormedia
Of course, if Mosley gets what he wants we are on the way to a more dynamic future.
Oh dear. I think you just defended Max Mosley. Wait until the masses find out about this. Here, take this Kevlar jacket and follow me. I know a secret exit out the back.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:39
Originally posted by Rich
Brawn GP have unlimited resources?
Oh dear. I think you just defended Max Mosley. Wait until the masses find out about this. Here, take this Kevlar jacket and follow me. I know a secret exit out the back.
No, Brawn doesn't have unlimited resources but their results can prolly be explained by the fact that the car is made over a time when resources were not a problem. The current shake up is more a matter of luck than anything else. It came at the right time for the sport. It just shows what a shake up can mean in terms of creating some dynamics.
I used to be pro Mosley, now I'm just sick of them all, FIA, FOTA and FOM. But the idea about a limited budget is right, in my opinion.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:41
Originally posted by Motormedia
You are right but it only shows that F1 needs to be more dynamic than it has been in the past 30 years with two or three teams dominating from one season to another. F1 needs the unexpected!
At the moment, anyway, F1 is about as open and dynamic as I've ever seen it.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:48
Originally posted by Motormedia
No, Brawn doesn't have unlimited resources but their results can prolly be explained by the fact that the car is made over a time when resources were not a problem. The current shake up is more a matter of luck than anything else. It came at the right time for the sport. It just shows what a shake up can mean in terms of creating some dynamics.
None of this was expected though right?
You could say you have had "unexpected" handed to you on a platter, no?
I don't know how much more unexpected this season can get, so far so good though, who would have guessed the current positions and performance levels?
Anyone else notice the press conference was screwed up (again, like the last post race conference) by interviews with another driver?
Or did that only happen here in NZ?
Pretty naff really....
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:48
PMSLOriginally posted by Tolyngee
Yeah, but it's getting gay to the point of someday there's gonna be golden showers and facials...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:53
Over here the press conference was a bit more serious business, because we could only hear one word at one time from any driver, as the satelite signal was going down every 2 seconds.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 12:20
Originally posted by Madras
Exactly. They all have good cars for the first time in years. I'm surprised they're not up on the table drinking beer and waving their cocks about.
They were later on but you could only access it with the 'Red Button"
Lewis tried to join in but was found to be using a strap on and sent to see the stewards...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 14:22
Originally posted by KAus
They were later on but you could only access it with the 'Red Button"
I love to see them all getting along. Restores my faith in humanity. As Rubens said earlier this week, "We're great friends off the track but on it we hate each other."
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 16:53
I agree that boring, serious people should be kicked out of the world of professional sports and replaced by colourful children's tv presenter personalities. It really is quite unfortunate that such unacceptable personality types have been inflicted on the impressionable, unsuspecting public, and I say it's about time to put a stop to that.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:21
Personally if I want to see some top class comedy I'll watch Curb Your Enthusiasm, if I want to see some 'hilarious' slapstick japes I'll watch The Keystone Cops, if I want to see people spraying water from a flower into someone's face I'll go to the circus.
If I want to see a serious sportsman discussing a serious sport in a serious manner in a serious press conference and seriously answering some questions that have been put to him in a serious manner then I'll watch a press conference from my favourite sport of F1.
I wouldn't necessarily say you have F1 and then you have humour with all manner of jolly japes and never the twain shall meet, but I find it a little tedious that there is this obsession that F1 and lighthearted humourous personalities should be inextricably linked.
Whilst it is immensely enjoyable I am unsure what is so side splittingly hilarious about participating in F1. I don't watch interviews in athletics and end up having to run to the loo for a piss because I'm laughing so much, yet apparently you should whenever watching F1 press conferences.
What's the score here, are F1 fans like all humour addicts and get withdrawal symptoms because they have to watch F1 for two hours, during which they're missing vital time when they could be watching the "The Contest" episode of Seinfeld???!!!
If I want to see a serious sportsman discussing a serious sport in a serious manner in a serious press conference and seriously answering some questions that have been put to him in a serious manner then I'll watch a press conference from my favourite sport of F1.
I wouldn't necessarily say you have F1 and then you have humour with all manner of jolly japes and never the twain shall meet, but I find it a little tedious that there is this obsession that F1 and lighthearted humourous personalities should be inextricably linked.
Whilst it is immensely enjoyable I am unsure what is so side splittingly hilarious about participating in F1. I don't watch interviews in athletics and end up having to run to the loo for a piss because I'm laughing so much, yet apparently you should whenever watching F1 press conferences.
What's the score here, are F1 fans like all humour addicts and get withdrawal symptoms because they have to watch F1 for two hours, during which they're missing vital time when they could be watching the "The Contest" episode of Seinfeld???!!!
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:28
That joke is so old. Alonso and Kimi are both humble. Both have had to driver terrible cars at more than 1 point even after successful seasons. Lewis is on that path too.Originally posted by Motormedia
Actually, I think a mandatory celebration before the race would set things straight again, if you ask Kimi...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:34
Originally posted by Imperial
Personally if I want to see some top class comedy I'll watch Curb Your Enthusiasm, if I want to see some 'hilarious' slapstick japes I'll watch The Keystone Cops, if I want to see people spraying water from a flower into someone's face I'll go to the circus.
If I want to see a serious sportsman discussing a serious sport in a serious manner in a serious press conference and seriously answering some questions that have been put to him in a serious manner then I'll watch a press conference from my favourite sport of F1.
I wouldn't necessarily say you have F1 and then you have humour with all manner of jolly japes and never the twain shall meet, but I find it a little tedious that there is this obsession that F1 and lighthearted humourous personalities should be inextricably linked.
Whilst it is immensely enjoyable I am unsure what is so side splittingly hilarious about participating in F1. I don't watch interviews in athletics and end up having to run to the loo for a piss because I'm laughing so much, yet apparently you should whenever watching F1 press conferences.
What's the score here, are F1 fans like all humour addicts and get withdrawal symptoms because they have to watch F1 for two hours, during which they're missing vital time when they could be watching the "The Contest" episode of Seinfeld???!!!
Sir, you are misconstruing the whole thing. Nobody is asking for Larry David to appear on the press conferences, it is just refreshing to see drivers express some emotions except arrogance and grumpiness.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:34
Originally posted by CoolFiltered
Only if Max gets pole.
I think Max gets plenty of pole already...
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:35
Originally posted by Motormedia
Actually, I think a mandatory celebration before the race would set things straight again, if you ask Kimi...
Think Duncan Hamilton & Stuart Rolt - thought they hadn't qualified for Le Mans, went out on the piss all night, returned to the Hotel to find they were racing after all - Got in the car and won the race - Ah............. those were the days.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:38
Originally posted by Imperial
If I want to see a serious sportsman discussing a serious sport in a serious manner in a serious press conference and seriously answering some questions that have been put to him in a serious manner then I'll watch a press conference from my favourite sport of F1.
That sounds good, but that only happens very rarely. Instead it's always pre-written PR statements "the team did a good job, the car is feeling good to drive, we hope to have a good race tomorrow". That's not insightful in any way, so if it's between that and some humor I'll choose the humor.
Anyway, you make it sound like they were acing like clowns up there today. All they were doing was smiling/acting happy, which they should be after qualifying so well.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:44
Aww ffs, who ever's lost the remotes for the drivers needs shooting. I'm appalled at the personality and warmth on show.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 17:46
Originally posted by Motormedia
Sir, you are misconstruing the whole thing. Nobody is asking for Larry David to appear on the press conferences, it is just refreshing to see drivers express some emotions except arrogance and grumpiness.
That's fine, I see from your opening post that this wasn't what you were inferring.
But....I don't know...maybe it hasn't happened (yet) in this thread, but you can usually see which way these things are going to go....and it always ends in post after post calling the drivers a bunch of boring ****s etc and it's neither true about the drivers nor or is it even relevant to their sport or the peripheral aspects of the sport (ie interviews, press calls etc).
In agreement with you I would say yes indeed it is nice to have some light moments if the moment calls for it, but on the whole I couldn't give a stuff and indeed I tune into F1 for F1 and comedy shows for laughs.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 20:21
1. It was Tony Rolt.Originally posted by Bloggsworth
Think Duncan Hamilton & Stuart Rolt - thought they hadn't qualified for Le Mans, went out on the piss all night, returned to the Hotel to find they were racing after all - Got in the car and won the race - Ah............. those were the days.
2. It was urban myth. Duncan "Grandfather Of Lewis" Hamilton could spin a good yarn, but it tainted their genuinely heroic efforts - and a bona fide hero in Colditz-would-be-escapee Rolt.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 20:50
Can't see how it tainted their effort.Added a bit of colour which is probably what modern day F1 racing needes rather than this corporate talk.The good thing about JB in these Modern Press Conferences he does not sound as though he is on automated auto pilot unlike some of the usual people who are used to sit in those seats.This does not include Kimi as he's a Finn who can drink and all the better for it.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 20:55
Well, other than it made look like a reckless piss-artist with little concern for the safety of other drivers, rather than the consummate professional he was.
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Posted 04 April 2009 - 20:59
Originally posted by KAus
They were later on but you could only access it with the 'Red Button"
World class hilarious post in an Abysmal thread
BTW, Vettel and Button are actually quite good mates (even if SV says Kimi is his only true friend in F1; they play badminton together regularly). JB and SV have met at RoC (i think) and have always been joking around with one another in the paddock. I think they like each other's sense of humour. See Vettel's 'but I'm young' jibe in the PC earlier when questioned about the humidity...
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Posted 05 April 2009 - 01:55
It was usual for drivers to drink in the good old days and by definition they would have been appalled at being called a consummate professional.Check with his son and step son .The family tradition lives on with both of them.Life was much different until mid 70's in all levels of Motor Sport.Some of us are old enough to remember.It was just different.
