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Which of the old "Big Three" will win a race first?

Started by raiseyourfistfor , Apr 06 2009 19:02

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Poll: Which of the old "Big Three" will win a race first? (161 member(s) have cast votes)

McLaren (34 votes [21.12%])
Percentage of vote: 21.12%
Ferrari (94 votes [58.39%])
Percentage of vote: 58.39%
Renault (18 votes [11.18%])
Percentage of vote: 11.18%
Neither team will win a race this year. (15 votes [9.32%])
Percentage of vote: 9.32%

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#1 raiseyourfistfor

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:02

I'm thinking Ferrari, even if they had the worst start to the year so far.
You can never count out what the engineers from Maranello can produce

#2 giacomo

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:11

Hamilton always makes his way through the field, even from rubbish grid positions.

#3 MortenF1

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:12

Agree, it must be Ferrari, atleast if we're talking winning on merit. They're closer to the front than McLaren and Renault.

#4 mursuka80

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:15

I hope none of them wins,so tv ratings plummet and Bernie loses money :up:

#5 stonebutter

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:16

BMW

#6 Yellowmc

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:18

Ferrari, IMO, greatest potential and Kimi has been in 2 good positions to only throw it away.

#7 HMV

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:19

Of the three mentioned it will probably be Ferrari, assuming they learned something form the debacle in Sepang. Otherwise, Lewis will luck it out.

#8 Atreiu

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:20

IMO, the big three would have Williams and not Renault, even though Williams hasn't won in a very long while.

As of now, Ferrari seems in better shape than McLaren or Renault, but the Chinese upgrades can change things between them. I'd put my money on Ferrari anyhow.

#9 raiseyourfistfor

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:32

Originally posted by Atreiu
IMO, the big three would have Williams and not Renault, even though Williams hasn't won in a very long while.

big three i mean the last 3 teams to win wdc/wcc and more then 1 race a year.

#10 Dalek Caan

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:34

Ferrari should do it on pace alone, but I think we all know they will managed to F up something! :rotfl:

I fancy Lewis Hamilton.

#11 BrendanMcF

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:48

"Neither team will win a race this year."

Which two teams are you referring to?

#12 jesee

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:53

On balance you have to say the fastest car of the three seems to be Ferari. So they should be able to do it. I can bet my bottom dollar that if it was lewis or alonso in that car, we wouldn't be talking of diffusors, but evenly matched car to brawn-gp.

#13 Atreiu

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:55

Originally posted by raiseyourfistfor

big three i mean the last 3 teams to win wdc/wcc and more then 1 race a year.

I know.

#14 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:57

Originally posted by mursuka80
I hope none of them wins,so tv ratings plummet and Bernie loses money

Believe it or not, TV ratings are up in the UK by ~25% even without the big three winning.

#15 carbonfibre

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 19:57

I would say Ferrari. They are looking worse then they are right now.

#16 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 20:01

Originally posted by jesee
On balance you have to say the fastest car of the three seems to be Ferari. So they should be able to do it. I can bet my bottom dollar that if it was lewis or alonso in that car, we wouldn't be talking of diffusors, but evenly matched car to brawn-gp.

sure..that's what everybody said kimi would do when he comes to ferrari
show the whole world bla bla, wipe the floor with massa etc
it's not like on tv ninja

lewis or alonso in their cars show exactly that a good driver needs a good car.

neither lewis nor alonso would have done ANYTHING about the 3 out 4 race ending failures of ferrari in the last 2 races.

#17 RoutariEnjinu

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 20:07

Got to be Ferrari. McLaren and Ferrari were in same position with development right the way through '08, yet McLaren dropped a clanger much more so than Ferrari. Ferrari have lost their edge, but McLaren their entire mojo it seems.

#18 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 21:51

Originally posted by Dalek Caan

I fancy Lewis Hamilton.

ooo er.

#19 Rob

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 21:57

McLaren. They seem to be making progress at a faster pace than the others.

#20 Dalek Caan

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 21:58

Originally posted by D.M.N.

Believe it or not, TV ratings are up in the UK by ~25% even without the big three winning.

Source? And are those figures for Malaysia?

#21 dank

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 21:59

Originally posted by Dalek Caan

Source? And are those figures for Malaysia?

http://www.f1fanatic...-races-of-2009/

#22 pacwest

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 22:41

Originally posted by giacomo
Hamilton always makes his way through the field, even from rubbish grid positions.

My vote is recorded thusly.

#23 undersquare

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 22:52

Originally posted by giacomo
Hamilton always makes his way through the field, even from rubbish grid positions.

Just imagine if they'd put him on inters at his frst stop...

#24 JPW

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 22:59

Originally posted by D.M.N.
Believe it or not, TV ratings are up in the UK by ~25% even without the big three winning.

Bernie will be pleased and use this to further his agenda of nightraces in Asia.

First win for a big three team, I'd say Ferrari if they clean up their act.

#25 Ivan

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 23:06

Originally posted by D.M.N.
Believe it or not, TV ratings are up in the UK by ~25% even without the big three winning.

That may be because the BIG 3 aren't winning. Which I like.

#26 tifosi

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 23:11

Originally posted by Dalek Caan
I fancy Lewis Hamilton.

I'm not at all sure his girlfriend would appreciate that :love:

#27 bankoq

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 23:30

Ferrari or nobody from the big three.

#28 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 00:29

Originally posted by tifosi

I'm not at all sure his girlfriend would appreciate that

Oi!! I got there first Posted Image

;)

#29 HaydenFan

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 01:14

Originally posted by Yellowmc
Ferrari, IMO, greatest potential and Kimi has been in 2 good positions to only throw it away.

Malaysia was more of a team decision. It was obvious after 2-3 laps that their plan had failed.

But, yes, Ferrari will get the win. Renault (how are they a top 3 team?) and McLaren just have had too many issues in testing and the first two races. Both teams have drivers on the verge of losing their jobs. Ferrari has pretty much got this in the bag, and I would expect by the time F1 makes it to Europe, they will have already scored a win.

#30 raiseyourfistfor

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 01:17

Originally posted by Ivan

That may be because the BIG 3 aren't winning. Which I like.

I'd rather wonder whether its gonna be mclaren or ferrari that are going to win instead of button running away with it unchallenged TBQH.

#31 pacwest

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:37

Originally posted by undersquare

Just imagine if they'd put him on inters at his frst stop...

Correctamundo.

Hamilton is showing his grit. This is why I cheer him on. He's got "it". I see more Mansell than Senna in him.

#32 peroa

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:42

Originally posted by D.M.N.

Believe it or not, TV ratings are up in the UK by ~25% even without the big three winning.

Not just the UK, also Germany but IMHO that has got more to do with the more "civilized" starting times for European viewers than anything else.
I`d wait for the first euro races for a conclusion.

#33 peroa

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 04:43

Originally posted by tifosi

I'm not at all sure his girlfriend would appreciate that

I`ll take care of her ...
:smoking:

#34 chrcoluk

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:29

voted ferrari as they showing some signs of pace at least whilst renault and mclaren are both much slower.

hamilton has the ability to get a shock result for mclaren but with the recent negativity I think his heart wont be in it for a while.

#35 Ricardo F1

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:44

Ferrari you would say right now, but if the rear diffuser IS a big gain I fancy McLaren will have one before either Ferrari or Renault so things could swing enough in their favor for Hamilton to grab a win.

#36 Tomerell

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:46

Originally posted by undersquare
Just imagine if they'd put him on inters at his frst stop...

Just imagine if Ferrari had not put Kimi on fullwets at his first stop... and put him on inters after it actually started raining...

#37 undersquare

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:01

Originally posted by Tomerell

Just imagine if Ferrari had not put Kimi on fullwets at his first stop... and put him on inters after it actually started raining...

Fair point. No-one understands that decision, also I don't understand why Mac didn't roll the dice, they had so little to lose. But still smarting from Monza Q perhaps.

Curious how human these decisions are, when you might think the data would make them.

#38 Craven Morehead

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:04

I'd think o ne of the Ferraris is most likely as they are closest to the front of the grid. Although one should never bet against Hamilton, he's shown an ability to come forward from deep in the pack. :up:

#39 Tomerell

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:04

Curious how human these decisions are, when you might think the data would make them.

Spot on

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:36

Originally posted by stonebutter
BMW

I rather thought they would be the third choice in the poll too, and they've been there or thereabouts in both races, even if partly due to circumstances. Toyota could be part of the Big Three if they are rated on budget too.

BMW, Toyota or Red Bull look more like winning than any of the options above, Ferrari just need a straight race with no massive errors to demonstrate their pace, McLaren have serious issues to resolve before we can really say where they stand and Renault don't look much more sorted than the McLaren, though they can at least make it to Q3.

#41 Force Ten

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 09:23

Originally posted by raiseyourfistfor

big three i mean the last 3 teams to win wdc/wcc and more then 1 race a year.

Still, if you have a bit longer memory, if you hear "big three" being said then immediately Ferrari, McLaren and Williams tend to come to mind. Just an observation.

#42 Chicken McNuggets

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 10:24

That's what I thought, what with the word 'old' being used. Renault are a very recent member of a 'big three' in the grand scheme of history. Of those three mentioned, though, I'd hope it'll be McLaren, but suspect that Ferrari will get there first, as usual in the past decade...

#43 giltkid

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 15:01

If there is a God then this man will never be in charge of a winning team again.

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#44 HoldenRT

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 15:42

Voted Ferrari, but Kimi's pace in the dry at the end of his first stint wasn't anything special. Which is why they took a big gamble (a gamble that backmarkers teams usually take though :confused:

). They have some developing to do but are closest to the front at this point.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 16:52

Originally posted by stonebutter
BMW

#46 barteks

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:33

Originally posted by stonebutter
BMW

#47 Lazy Prodigy

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:35

Originally posted by raiseyourfistfor
I'm thinking Ferrari, even if they had the worst start to the year so far.
You can never count out what the engineers from Maranello can produce

I dont think any team will. They are two far behind with too many other good competitors. If they do it will be in a whacky race imho

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Poll: Which of the old "Big Three" will win a race first? (161 member(s) have cast votes)

#1 raiseyourfistfor

#2 giacomo

#3 MortenF1

#4 mursuka80

#5 stonebutter

#6 Yellowmc

#7 HMV

#8 Atreiu

#9 raiseyourfistfor

#10 Dalek Caan

#11 BrendanMcF

#12 jesee

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