Anyone else seen this sort of thing in F1 before? They must be running an extremely stiff setup. My car does it on track all the time when pushed hard but its what happens to 106/Saxo's with stiff setups
Lewis's Tripod'in McLaren
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Matt Somers
, Apr 18 2009 17:14
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Matt Somers
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:14
Front right wheel picking up and tripod'in the car.
Anyone else seen this sort of thing in F1 before? They must be running an extremely stiff setup. My car does it on track all the time when pushed hard but its what happens to 106/Saxo's with stiff setups
Anyone else seen this sort of thing in F1 before? They must be running an extremely stiff setup. My car does it on track all the time when pushed hard but its what happens to 106/Saxo's with stiff setups
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:17
er It's nothing new in F1 - I have seen f1 cars in the past do it at various tracks.
Monaco for example.
Monaco for example.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:23
The McLaren was doing it last year with the front.
It is either a useful tyre saving technique.;)
Or the free wheel itself is being used at these points as a aero dynamic device.;)
It has absolutely nothing at all to do with the suspension!
It is either a useful tyre saving technique.;)
Or the free wheel itself is being used at these points as a aero dynamic device.;)
It has absolutely nothing at all to do with the suspension!
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:31
I thought I saw Alonso's car doing it too. Presumably it must mean soft at the rear, stiff at the front. Or rather not as much drop at the front as there is compression at the rear.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:37
Monaco through Mirabeau is one thing
Out on medium speed corners is another
It suggests they are setting up the rear quite soft / front stiff to compensate for a late of grip at the back end
It's been documentated that they used a used stiff front end last year as an inherent characteristic of the car, mainly to suit Lewis' driving style - sharp turn in and deal with the oversteer through to the apex
But that today did look extreme to me
Out on medium speed corners is another
It suggests they are setting up the rear quite soft / front stiff to compensate for a late of grip at the back end
It's been documentated that they used a used stiff front end last year as an inherent characteristic of the car, mainly to suit Lewis' driving style - sharp turn in and deal with the oversteer through to the apex
But that today did look extreme to me
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:39
I think if the front wheel is lifting it means the rear suspension is relatively soft and the front is stiffer.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:40
Wurz mentioned it in Oz IIRC.
Very soft at the rear compensating for the lack of downforce.
Very soft at the rear compensating for the lack of downforce.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 17:52
I seem to recall MS did it in Hungary one year.
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Gilles12
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 18:17
Originally posted by Peter Perfect
I seem to recall MS did it in Hungary one year.
And Belgium in another
That also had nothing to do with anti roll bars and spring rates...
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 18:26
Originally posted by undersquare
I thought I saw Alonso's car doing it too. Presumably it must mean soft at the rear, stiff at the front. Or rather not as much drop at the front as there is compression at the rear.
thats how i understand it, stiff at the front to try and help maintain optimised aerodynamics into the air, soft at the rear to try and make traction a bit easier to retain out of the corner*.....its a compromise but then again it always is
*i stand to be corrected of course, it could be a crap tub that's flexing with power torque or it could be some wild illegal gizmo thingy
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 18:29
it's a modern day Lotus Cortina!!
*perhaps not quite the same talent as Jim Clark tho....
*perhaps not quite the same talent as Jim Clark tho....
