Jack Brabham - 50 years on...

I hope Graham isn't steaming along the track towards him, Vince!

I think my earliest "Graham" model is the winning BRM from the '62 Dutch GP, so this mechanic and the Cooper are safe. Somehow reminds me of tramlines or something at Oporto, though.

I found this in a book when i was looking for something else ,I used as a book mark many years ago......Copy right details unknown.
L-R ....Betty and Jack in the BT-24 1967 possibly at Brands ,Ron Tauranac., Goodyear & Firestone blokes ? ,and Roy Billingtonjust jacked up the back wheel,and Ken Tyrrell checking things out.




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Edited by eldougo, 09 April 2011 - 10:31.

I found this in a book when i was looking for something else ,I used as a book mark many years ago......Copy right details unknown.
L-R ....Betty and Jack in the BT-24 1967 possibly at Brands ,Ron Tauranac., Goodyear & Firestone blokes ? ,and Roy Billingtonjust jacked up the back wheel,and Ken Tyrrell checking things out.




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Firestone man is the late Chris Parry, then Competitions Manager of Firestone

Great to see that he is still celebrated. His amazing achievements aside, he is the most charming and humble person.

I guess thats why he has been able to burn and empty a few people's pockets so I promise you he is not "celebrated" by all.

Oh and he just lost a court case and has been ordered to compensate a friend. The "But this is the Legend that is Sir Jack Brabham" was used heavily in the process to try and avoid proceedings and later to mute the case and the outcome.

Track legend for sure but later in life one too many 'new engine tech' scams.

not "celebrated" by all.

Track legend for sure but later in life one too many 'new engine tech' scams.

In my experience, most people who are really successful have a bit of this in them.

cheapracer , cheap comments in my ears , is that really necessary ? Can't you wait ?

I guess thats why he has been able to burn and empty a few people's pockets so I promise you he is not "celebrated" by all.

Oh and he just lost a court case and has been ordered to compensate a friend. The "But this is the Legend that is Sir Jack Brabham" was used heavily in the process to try and avoid proceedings and later to mute the case and the outcome.

Track legend for sure but later in life one too many 'new engine tech' scams.

Sounds like Don Bradman all over again...

Sounds like Don Bradman all over again...

Gee, who'd want to be a 'Tall Poppy'......particularly an Aussie 'Tall Poppy'?

cheapracer , cheap comments in my ears , is that really necessary ? Can't you wait ?

Wait until

Some info on this case: http://www.sixstroke...latest-news.htm

I find it difficult to see Jack as a scheming villain BTW.
Seems more like a case of being lured into areas where he is rather less talented than he was as a driver or constructor.

Edited by scheivlak, 09 April 2011 - 21:28.

The judgment of the Federal Court may be found here;

http://www.austlii.e...p;query=brabham

In her introduction Jagot J said;

3. Despite the names of the first and fourth applicants (Jack Brabham Engines Limited and Sir John Arthur (Jack) Brabham OBE), Sir Jack Brabham has had little real involvement with the events which have given rise to this case.

4. This case is not about Sir Jack Brabham . It is a case about the conduct of other people and the corporations through which they chose to conduct themselves.

Great news for West Australians,it has just been announced that the housing estate at the Caversham circuit will be called Brabham
Estate. The D section will be retained and the main straight will be a 4 lane road which can be easily converted to use a a race track.
The VSCC is negotiating a 25 year lease for the circuit.





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I will have to check it out ,we are staying in that area in a months time.

Tasman Revival 2010



'Tasman' days.

Great news for West Australians,it has just been announced that the housing estate at the Caversham circuit will be called Brabham
Estate. The D section will be retained and the main straight will be a 4 lane road which can be easily converted to use a a race track.
The VSCC is negotiating a 25 year lease for the circuit.

And anyone buying property in the estate will know this, so won't be able to complain about any perceived nuisance

Ah, if only that were true, David.

You mean like the people that bought property near Warwick Farm, Amaroo Park, Oran Park etc.......then complained like hell?

Edited by GMACKIE, 10 April 2011 - 07:40.

Name one Australian circuit that was closed because of noise.

It happened at Ty Croes, Anglesey too, so they re-routed the circuit away from the half a dozen houses.

May 2011 will not only be the 100th anniversary of the first Indy 500, but the 50th anniversary of Sir Jack and John Cooper throwing a wrench into the Indy establishment.
Maybe something that should also be celebrated?

That is for sure. And what a thrill to be there. The Roadster crowd just couldn't believe their stop watches. The rookie test was going to be an amusing day for the old boys and several gathered in the first corner to watch this fellow take his test. I understand Sir Jack had lap times that were very consistent and very smooth. The place was never the same after that year. Here is the Cooper motoring along. Ron N. www.classicvintagemotorsports.com for more images from the early days.



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Name one Australian circuit that was closed because of noise.

Albert Park

Albert Park

That wasn't noise, it was a newspaper war.
If noise was the concern then the practice sessions wouldn't have been so early in the morning. (Bob Holden told me that he arrived at the track for practice in his pyjamas to mock the official schedule)

That wasn't noise, it was a newspaper war.
If noise was the concern then the practice sessions wouldn't have been so early in the morning. (Bob Holden told me that he arrived at the track for practice in his pyjamas to mock the official schedule)

what was the war over noise.

That is for sure. And what a thrill to be there.

You are a lucky man to have been able to witness history in the making...
The IMS is unfortunately not very interested in celebrating this quite remarkable event, so we will do so at Goodwood in July since our old car is part of a contingent of famous Indy cars. It is apparently sharing a container on a boat to Albion with the 1913 Peugeot that was used by Dario Resta to win the 1916 event. I cannot think of better company for the little Cooper...
At this time we are refreshing its engine and it should be back to full operation within 10 days.

Great news for West Australians,it has just been announced that the housing estate at the Caversham circuit will be called Brabham
Estate. The D section will be retained and the main straight will be a 4 lane road which can be easily converted to use a a race track.
The VSCC is negotiating a 25 year lease for the circuit.





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Ken,
"...the main straight will be a 4 lane road which can be easily converted to use as a race track."
Not while our combined derriers are pointing to the ground Ken.

John they have promised that part of the road can be closed to run an event at least twice a year.

John they have promised that part of the road can be closed to run an event at least twice a year.

Yes Ken you are quite correct in what you say here, converting the road for use as part of the circuit is exactly what is being proposed.

Many would not know that we do this already in WA. Highway One through Northam constitutes part of the Northam Flying 50 circuit in exactly the same way that streets at Albert Park are part of the GP Circuit. We apply for a road closure and install the necessary safety equipment overnight and presto, we have a race circuit with concrete walls and armco, even the traffic islands are removed at Albany and Notham for the day. The roundabout that is removed at Northam is an engineering award winner for its ingenious design, it even has a garden in it!

The alignment of Henly Brook Avenue is the main straight of Caversham, It will be basicly the mainstraight resurfaced as its foundations already exist as you know, all the other sections of the circuit also exist but are not gazetted roads so will remain as circuit proper.

The following may be of interest to any Jack Brabham & Cooper enthusiasts. It's the first of a planned series of models in 'The Jack Brabham Collection' by Biante Models - based in Perth, Western Australia.

Despite the website currently stating the 1/43rd scale T53 model is "In Transit". It's available, because I procured one in Queensland last week at $99 (that IMHO is a bit pricey for a run of 2500 - but I had to have it).

Biggest problem for those outside of Australia is the current strength of the Aussie dollar.

Link - http://www.biante.co...oduct_24185.htm

Stephen

Yesterday in my travels I went to Orange and had a look at the Jack Brabham park.I was going to drive around the circuit but I was overruled.

Ken,

You should have dropped your overruler back into Orange for a coffee and then gone back out to Gnoo Blas. It's one of the best marked, highly intact former Australian race circuits I've been to. Did you use the, "It's a long way from Perth to attempt to go around the circuit again" for a sympathy vote.

Stephen

Should have driven it and not said anything

Yes Ken you are quite correct in what you say here, converting the road for use as part of the circuit is exactly what is being proposed.

Many would not know that we do this already in WA. Highway One through Northam constitutes part of the Northam Flying 50 circuit in exactly the same way that streets at Albert Park are part of the GP Circuit. We apply for a road closure and install the necessary safety equipment overnight and presto, we have a race circuit with concrete walls and armco, even the traffic islands are removed at Albany and Notham for the day. The roundabout that is removed at Northam is an engineering award winner for its ingenious design, it even has a garden in it!

The alignment of Henly Brook Avenue is the main straight of Caversham, It will be basicly the mainstraight resurfaced as its foundations already exist as you know, all the other sections of the circuit also exist but are not gazetted roads so will remain as circuit proper.

They run a stockcar race here in Adelaide a bit like that too,,,,,, Clipsal

They run a stockcar race here in Adelaide a bit like that too,,,,,, Clipsal

Im not buying a ticket in that one Lee!!

I somehow dont think we will be inviting Taxi racing at Caversham, albiet I would love to see an "old crocks" race!!

They must have been one good show in there day!

I just happened upon this photo:
http://images.slsa.s...0/B70994_19.htm

The identity of the J.B. Special seem obvious to me.

Yeah, it's one of the 'sports cars or go karts'...

Brilliant!

There were some excellent shots in that album. Just recently the housing to be built on the Caversham circuit was officially named
Brabham estate Jack was in attendance for the naming and was driven around the circuit in an Austin Healey.
Well done VSCC.

[quote name='ken devine' date='May 11 2011, 10:01' post='5013914']
There were some excellent shots in that album. Just recently the housing to be built on the Caversham circuit was officially named
Brabham estate Jack was in attendance for the naming and was driven around the circuit in an Austin Healey.
Well done VSCC.
Very well done indeed, seems as they have a new town in the Swan Valley and a Caversham Motor Raceway as well!!

Here are some images of Sir Jack at the naming ceremony of the new town of Brabham Western Australia

Today represents 50 years since the culmination of a very busy week for Jack Brabham.

He ran second to Moss at the Silverstone International Trophy on May 6th. Then climbed on a plane to the US for early Indy qualifying in the specially built (and only finished on the May 4th) T54 Cooper-Climax. Then he was back on a plane to qualify for the Monaco Grand Prix. Then, again back to the US for final qualifying at Indy, where he had run at an average of 145.144 mph to set 13th fastest. To put this in perspective, pole position man, Eddie Sachs ran 147.481 mph. Jack was then back on flights so he could climb aboard his rear of grid Cooper for the Monaco race. To retire on lap 38 and no doubt somewhat worn out.

What a massive effort logistically, for both driver, the Cooper Car Co team & the Indianapolis organisers (they helped work around then current World Champion, Brabham's busy Jet setting schedule). In the process of what would see, come May 30th, the beginnning of the rear engine revolution upon the brickyard establishment.

Stephen

Edited by cooper997, 14 May 2011 - 23:02.

... the first British car compete at the famed Indy 500.

I think that honour belongs to Albert Guyot's Sunbeam in 1913.

I think that honour belongs to Albert Guyot's Sunbeam in 1913.

Thanks for that correction Tim.

Stephen

I guess thats why he has been able to burn and empty a few people's pockets so I promise you he is not "celebrated" by all.

Oh and he just lost a court case and has been ordered to compensate a friend. The "But this is the Legend that is Sir Jack Brabham" was used heavily in the process to try and avoid proceedings and later to mute the case and the outcome.

Track legend for sure but later in life one too many 'new engine tech' scams.

Here is the costs judgment costs judgment

Here is the costs judgment costs judgment
Quote from her honour
"As to Sir Jack Brabham, the observations I made in the reasons for judgment at [1]-[3] do not provide any proper basis to depart from the usual approach that Sir Jack Brabham, as an unsuccessful applicant, should be jointly and severally liable for the respondents’ costs. First, the personal merits and age of any party are beside the point. Costs compensate the successful party. The merits or otherwise of the unsuccessful party (at least outside the context of conduct in the proceeding) are immaterial. Second, I said that Sir Jack Brabham had little involvement in the events which had given rise to the case (at [2]). The fact is, despite his lack of real involvement in those events, Sir Jack Brabham was an applicant in the proceeding. He remained an applicant after interlocutory orders were made by consent. He claimed orders additional to those interlocutory orders. He prepared three affidavits in support not only of his own claims but also those of the other applicants. These considerations are a sufficient basis to reject the applicants’ submission that there should be no order as to costs against Sir Jack Brabham.
For these reasons it is not necessary to rely upon an additional fact to which the respondents referred, being the applicants’ position in response to the respondents’ application for security for costs against JBE. On 7 May 2008, the applicants, in opposing any order for security for costs, expressly acknowledged that each of the applicants would be jointly and severally liable for the applicants’ costs. If consideration of that fact had been necessary, it would have supported the conclusion already reached that Sir Jack Brabham, in common with the other applicants, should be subject to the costs order in the respondents’ favour"

Sir Jack made several court appearences with the press in tow ,but did not appear as a wittness, I made no comment as the matter was before the court . The applicants had several very biassed articles published by the press but after the judgment the press was stony silent . Payement to the respondents has not been made to date.
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Splitt cycle , Mayflower , Save the world air, jetfan, fuelstar, vortex dynamics,
Just google them and judge for youself.

http://dansdata.blog...lian-tradition/

http://www.benhills....les/SCM03a.html

http://forums.whirlp.../archive/842602

http://forums.autosp...w...143875&st=0

"I name and expose the new JBEC P/L company, and publish that the same old JBE Board cohort directors are now moving sideways to do more of the same (as they did with Pulse Fuel and JBE) as Directors of the new JBEC P/L board, which includes Edwin Matiuk, Alan Casey, Gail Casey, Tony Hall.
Judge Jagot determined that Alan Casey (Director of JBE P/L and now JBEC P/L) engaged in misleading & deceptive conduct, that Alan Casey (according to Judge Jagot) deposited moneys subscribed to company for (”patent commercializing intended”) technology development into his own personal bank account, That Alan Casey (according to Judge Jagot) used company (“development”) funds for his own personal daily needs, that the values applied to the company patents by Alan Casey proved exaggerated and inflated.

Mr. Edwin Matiuk appears to now be leading the JBEC P/L charge as leader and CEO of yet another (latest) incarnation of a “Patent Commercialisation” company, who’s directors “coincidently” are Alan Casey, Gail Casey, Anthony Hall, the very same people whom were involved in the previous two company failures, the very same Alan Casey whom appear to have thus far squandered in excess of 1,5 million dollars of subscribers moneys, during the time Alan Casey was in control of Pulse Fuel Technologies, later name change in 2004 to Jack Brabham Engines P/L. the same Alan Casey and Gail Casey, who together with Sir Jack Brabham and Jack Brabham Engines P/L failed in their collective 2007 filed proceedings against me in Federal Court of Australia Sydney, and were in turn singly and severally ordered by Judge Jagot late 2010 to pay the sizable Malcolm Beare/Respondents court case costs which they have yet to pay. The same Alan Casey and Gail Casey who now appear to be slithering sideways towards setting up another company intended to reportedly do more of the same under the latest guise of JBEC P/L. Alan Casey, Gail Casey, and Anthony Hall have evidently now enlisted the expert help of Edwin Matiuk. "

The truth should not be deleted in the interests of justice. Evil prospers when good men do nothing
sincerely malbeare

Edited by malbear, 29 August 2011 - 08:09.

Sorry way off topic,but this makes two Aussie legends that were either born in the suburb I live in, or lived here at some time.

Don Bradman and Jack Brabham!

The judgment of Jago J in the matter of costs may be found here;

http://www.austlii.e.....=jack brabham

As with all judgments it should be read in full; Sir Donald Tovey's admonition regarding "bleeding chunks" is even more applicable to the law than it is to music.

Notwithstanding, I defied Tovey in my earlier post and I will do it again; I offer the following extract from the costs judgment;

The applicants’ contend that: - (i) as between the fourth applicant, Sir Jack Brabham , and the respondents, there should be no order as to costs, (ii) the respondents should pay the applicants’ costs with respect to certain issues (including on an indemnity basis), and/or (iii) there should be no order as to costs generally or with respect to the issues excluded from the apportionment.

The first proposed order relating to Sir Jack Brabham is said to be in the interests of justice because he is an elderly person of outstanding merit, his involvement was limited, and such involvement as he had was caused by the actions of the respondents in naming him on the internet and contacting him at his private residential address. Further, that the root cause of his involvement was the respondents’ conduct in including adverse statements about him in their “chapter of truth” posted on the internet.

The principle in cases of this kind is that "costs follow the event"; in plain terms, "loser pays". There are occasional variations from this principle but they are invariably based on extraordinary circumstances.

It seems that Jack was dragged into this matter by the other applicants but Jagot J did not regard this as sufficient grounds for setting-aside a practice that extends back for 90 years to Ritter -v- Godfrey. Had Jack suffered extreme and unusual financial and personal hardship because of the judgment, Her Honour might have made a judgment similar to that made in Jones -v- Apps ( http://www.austlii.e...09/366.html#fn1 ) but this was clearly not the case.

Jack has been a tough operator all his life; that is not disputed and he should be (and is) respected for that quality.

Dishonesty is a different thing entirely; there is absolutely no evidence of that arising from the judgments in this matter.

Jack has been a tough operator all his life; that is not disputed and he should be (and is) respected for that quality.

Dishonesty is a different thing entirely; there is absolutely no evidence of that arising from the judgments in this matter.[/quote]



One of the respondants settled out of court during the trail . The main reason to do so was that his wife was battling breast cancer and he could not deal with vexatious litigation as well. Commendably so he decided that his wife was a higher priority so he lost $100,000 and his shares, as well as paying a settlement of $25,000.
Similarly my young son was battling hodgkin's lymphoma during the trail I had no options but to take three months off work and max out the credit cards .
Centerlink would not assist as I owned shares in JBE with a directors valuation of $5 mill.
Thankfully the local community rallied especially the school bus driver Tracy.
We muddled through.
The case against two other overseas respondents was dropped and the case against my wife ( for being a witness to my signature) was dropped as the judge gave strong indications to the complainants that this portion of their case would fail.
The Caseys were banking on an out of court settlement and a hard nosed business decision, but they did not count on a courageous moral decision to continue by Steve.
The main reason I think that they lost the case was that they did not present any particulars but kept referring to their own affidavits as the particulars and documentary evidence .
You cannot put lies in an affidavit and expect it to be the verifying evidence .You have to have supporting documents or physical evidence. There was none.
Jack Brabham presented three supporting affidavits for the Caseys
I suspect that Gail Casey wrote them and Jack signed them. Maybe he read them and understood the implications .

ockamsrazor
http://www.abc.net.a...009/2668778.htm
“Stimulating the interest were Mayne's confident assertions that his technology was about to be adopted worldwide. He was also publicity conscious. He enlisted the celebrity train robber, Ronald Biggs as a representative. He hired three times world Formula One car racing champion, Sir Jack Brabham, to chair the company. At its peak, Split-Cycle was valued at more than $200-million. Mayne, as the biggest shareholder, was worth $50-million. In 1993, he was named as one of Australia's richest men. That same year he was arrested when he returned to his native New Zealand, for evading a $1-million tax bill on the caravans and trailers.”
“Even amid the high-tech hyperventilating of the late 1990s, the promotion of Save The World Air Inc was extraordinary. Muller pumped out scores of media releases. He demonstrated the device on Fox TV and was written up in the New York Times. He recruited a stable of sporting and show business celebrities to endorse the product. They included Sir Jack Brabham, the Split-Cycle chairman and motor racing legend; Wayne Grady, the champion golfer; Steven Seagal, the Hollywood movie star and John Brown, the former Australian Sports Minister”

Edited by malbear, 28 August 2011 - 00:56.

cheapracer , cheap comments in my ears , is that really necessary ? Can't you wait ?

Sorry to displease you Mate but I personally know some of the people at the wrong end of his dealings especially Split Cycle/Jetfan and I am by no means the first person in TNF to mention the shady dealings of racers, team owners etc. Having "Sir" in front of your name does not exempt you.


malbear, please adjust the quote box in your post #90 to just the link as I posted originally thank you.

Sorry to displease you Mate but I personally know some of the people at the wrong end of his dealings especially Split Cycle/Jetfan and I am by no means the first person in TNF to mention the shady dealings of racers, team owners etc. Having "Sir" in front of your name does not exempt you.


malbear, please adjust the quote box in your post #90 to just the link as I posted originally thank you.

Have done so mate.
After I resigned as a director from Jack Brabham Engines Limited ,a PUBLIC company, and before the court case ,I contacted sir jack and suggested that I would like to write to him to explain my reasons. What I expected was a meet me while I am in Adelaide , or come to dinner, but what I got was write to me via Alan Casey. Why would I send my explaination via the devil.
Jack brabham engines limited has changed its status from a public company to a Jack Brabham engines Pty Ltd ,a private company, largey to avoid the necesity of a public audit. and the directors have started another scam private company JBEC pty ltd and shifted assets from JBE to it . they have yet to pay any court costs. I will keep you posted on the double backflips , smoke and mirrors and waffle dust .

Edited by malbear, 30 September 2011 - 21:57.

Another month has passed by . The complainent parties have recieved a bill and surprise surprise they have failed to pay.
In my oppinion both companies Jack Brabham engines Pty Ltd, JBEC pty ltd , are trading whilst insolvent and are only propped up by share sales.
http://www.search.as...cgi-bin/gns030c

If you are approached on a gold coast golf course and you are a self funded retirey with a super fund , and offered shares with the clincher of the big name Jack Brabham ,
then please do your due dilligence carefully because all that is likely to happen is that you will be paying for someone elses groceries.

Heh, just found this out, I went to the same high school as Jack brabham, be it 70 years later

Another month has passed by . The complainent parties have recieved a bill and surprise surprise they have failed to pay.
In my oppinion both companies Jack Brabham engines Pty Ltd, JBEC pty ltd , are trading whilst insolvent and are only propped up by share sales.
http://www.search.as...cgi-bin/gns030c

If you are approached on a gold coast golf course and you are a self funded retirey with a super fund , and offered shares with the clincher of the big name Jack Brabham ,
then please do your due dilligence carefully because all that is likely to happen is that you will be paying for someone elses groceries.

So who is involved in this company?

So who is involved in this company?

Please scroll up to my earlier post or go to the ASIC search site and download a company report

Please scroll up to my earlier post or go to the ASIC search site and download a company report

to hard as if I'm going to give ASIC my hard earned money for a search.