I'm spinning this crap yes cheap, and last time you failed to prove anything against it except the same "watch motoGP". I recall you my latest statements: Longer braking zone doesn't mean more overtaking on braking just as shorter doesn't mean less.
You're comparing apples and oranges, vehicule that are maybe less than one meter wide against 1,8 meters wide on the same tracks...
Rest assured that if the cars has the same width you would see as many side by side braking overtakings as in moto GP... As i said, you can simply overtake by delaying YOUR own braking point as the fact the shorter braking distance, the greater the speed differential allows you to pass the other guy, the next part of the move is harder yes, you have to not overshoot yourself okay...
You're doing the same thing you put against people in this thread, you take a situation with vastly different characteristics (a motogp vs F1) and draw your own conclusions..
If you don't believe my physics, believe the facts: you have braking overtaking in F1 and quite a significant part over the totality of overtakings, so don't bring Motogp into the game, motogp has a lot more overtakings overall.
Its an interesting question. I think I partly agree with Ogami Musashi, though I'm not sure how much of a factor braking is.
If you have longer braking distances, and less powerful braking, then you definitely get more time to out brake someone.
But, it also makes less difference to exactly pick the right braking point. Also, having less powerful braking makes it easier for the driver to moderate their braking, so if they did start braking too soon, they can back off and mitigate the error. Still, the advantage in that would end up with the behind driver, because they can see the driver in front, and basically have more time to react to what they do.
It still remains a fundamental problem that to pass under braking, one of the drivers will be off the perfect line, and that loses them apex speed and usually puts them on a more slippy part of the track.
I guess my view is that the combination of longer braking distances, little aero, and a wider racing line compared to vehicle width, give better overtaking in MotoGP. All factors probably are significant, but maybe the (relatively) narrower racing line in F1 is the biggest factor, because being off it is such a huge penalty because it means you are losing so much aero generated cornering grip, which doesn't affect MotoGP.
All factors should be investigated by the OWG, and fix whatever can be done - I suspect harder tyres is the only quick win for 2010, unless they mandate single element rear wings with max depth, for all races. I really really hope they don't think the fuel changes are going to fix overtaking...
And lets face it - who is going to complain if we have a season of TOO much overtaking... It would be interesting to see a more radical change - get rid of rear wings and diffusers and make them use those harder 'demonstration tyres'. Of course, we'd have the drivers sat over the back axle, on top of the engine, to get some traction...