Is Kovalainen the most dissapointing talent in F1 history?

No. Just because Kovalainen always driving a bad strategy, and his car is worser than Hamilton.

Edited by craftverk, 19 October 2009 - 17:48.

Jan Magnussen

Jan Magnussen

He was **** at Renault

He was **** at Renault and was **** at McLaren but I would love him to write a tell it as it is book on his time in McLaren

No.

and his car is worser than Hamilton.

There's no evidence and Heikki has never made any noises about this. Admit it, Heikki hasn't lived upto expectations and he has himself to blame. He is just too slow to be even a decent number two driver.

It might not be much, but he did beat Fisico at Renault.

If he stays perhaps he will have a car better suited to his driving style next season.

Edited by William Hunt, 19 October 2009 - 18:10.

Edited by SeanValen, 19 October 2009 - 18:10.

Jan Magnussen

Actually he has complained about it many times

Actually he has complained about it many times,but it doesnt matter he isnt in Hamilton level anyway.

Edited by P123, 19 October 2009 - 18:09.

Looks to be a giant international media conspiracy!! They are all censoring his multiple complaints about how he is given a slower car compared to Lewis.

The only time he has had a car different to Lewis is due to manufacturing not keeping up with R&D, and Mclaren-Mercedes (like Renault) have always acknowledged the few times it has happened. Excuses, excuses....

Edited by mursuka80, 19 October 2009 - 18:15.

Edited by paranoik0, 19 October 2009 - 18:25.

Driving style is a BS excuse.

Everyone knows that I am no Alonso fan, but look at how quickly he adapted from Renault to McLaren. Two completely different types of cars, and Fred was on the pace IMMEDIATELY, on the Macca. A good driver will be able to drive any car to be honest. This example is significant because Alonso has a visibly different driving style than others.

Heikki said the car is designed for a certain driving style and it's the style Lewis uses. It is about what kind of lines Lewis takes through the corners. Heikki would like to use a smooth line, unlike Lewis, who likes to use more sharper turns.

Heikki has had trouble because he should drive like Lewis drives through the turns to get the most out of the car. He should change the style he has used to drive before. How fair is that? Was Lewis asked to change his driving style to suit the one preferred by Heikki? No. It is an unfair comparison when you have this situation.

I don't think you can make a fair assessment of his skills and talent until you put him in a situation in which he doesn't have to constantly bend over and try to do things like his team-mate does them.

I think all things considered, Heikki was really unlucky that he was out of the Renault after 2007. He may have been happy to end up at McLaren, but I don't think many people thought McLaren is going to respect their "equality" talks much after December 2007 when they hired him and advertised how they will give him equal status in the team. I see that clearly didn't happen and I think they were cheating Heikki a little bit there with their comments on equality.

Heikki said the car is designed for a certain driving style and it's the style Lewis uses. It is about what kind of lines Lewis takes through the corners. Heikki would like to use a smooth line, unlike Lewis, who likes to use more sharper turns.

Heikki has had trouble because he should drive like Lewis drives through the turns to get the most out of the car. He should change the style he has used to drive before. How fair is that? Was Lewis asked to change his driving style to suit the one preferred by Heikki? No. It is an unfair comparison when you have this situation.

I don't think you can make a fair assessment of his skills and talent until you put him in a situation in which he doesn't have to constantly bend over and try to do things like his team-mate does them.

I think all things considered, Heikki was really unlucky that he was out of the Renault after 2007. He may have been happy to end up at McLaren, but I don't think many people thought McLaren is going to respect their "equality" talks much after December 2007 when they hired him and advertised how they will give him equal status in the team. I see that clearly didn't happen and I think they were cheating Heikki a little bit there with their comments on equality.

Driving style is a BS excuse.

Everyone knows that I am no Alonso fan, but look at how quickly he adapted from Renault to McLaren. Two completely different types of cars, and Fred was on the pace IMMEDIATELY, on the Macca. A good driver will be able to drive any car to be honest. This example is significant because Alonso has a visibly different driving style than others.

Here's a guy around 2005 had everything going for him. He was testing at ridiculous speeds for Renault. He beat Schumacher for Race of Champions and was going to be the next big thing in F1. He had more star power than Hamilton and of any rookie coming into F1 since Villeneuve in 96.
What is God's name happened to this guy. He has the spine of a roll of toilet paper. He's consistently slow, makes stupid mistakes and seems to act as if it's no big deal. You'd think that with Kimi possibly replacing him at Mclaren, he'd grow some balls and at least give Lewis a push, but looks like he's more likely to drive himself out of F1. He's the only person I can think of who is getting worse and worse every year - in a good car.

Unfortunately in these forums, saying a car is built to suit 1 driver at the expense of another is frowned upon and not accepted as an acceptable justification of the driver's performance(or lack thereof ) if you don't believe me, go check out the Massa v Kimi theads.

Michael Andretti

I really wanted another Andretti to be good in F1. Loved watching Mario in the Lotuses, especially against Ronnie Peterson.

Nah... Yannick Dalmas, Jan Lammers or maybe Bernd Schneider.

Kovaleinen has had some success and a win. There are plenty of amazing talents that never even get that chance.

Heiki has been 'Heidfelded'

Driving style is a BS excuse.

Everyone knows that I am no Alonso fan, but look at how quickly he adapted from Renault to McLaren. Two completely different types of cars, and Fred was on the pace IMMEDIATELY, on the Macca. A good driver will be able to drive any car to be honest. This example is significant because Alonso has a visibly different driving style than others.

Nah... Yannick Dalmas, Jan Lammers or maybe Bernd Schneider.

Kovaleinen has had some success and a win. There are plenty of amazing talents that never even get that chance.

Heiki has been 'Heidfelded'