Should Hulkenberg have got a penalty?

Hulk was going to be passed. Fred was two or three seconds clear and not exactly under duress from behind. A balk on a pass doesn't equal braking too late and missing a corner.

Wow I pop in here for a bit of sanity and are once again met with moronic comments by those out to spew hatred.

Well then, invite him to steward's office three times and give him three warnings. Do I have to think of everything here?

Alonso did it once, Hulk was a repeat offender.

He cut chicanes 3 times during the race. That not a matter of debate is it?

Perhaps I'm blind because I could have swore that Hulk cut it at least three times and Fernando only once. Therefore your comment on the FIA in Ferrari's pocket ill informed, on THIS account. Hulk deserved SOMETHING for his actions, Fred didn't. I may have misunderstood what you were going at. If so I apologize.

SS is taking about the championship. Webber could of been a further 4 points away from Fernando if Hulkenberg had of got a decisive drive through.

Hulk was a naughty boy today. I wonder if they are investigating his actions right now...

The title of this thread should say: Should the FIA ban themselves for a few races?

Edited by Cenotaph, 12 September 2010 - 14:45.

Edited by Touti, 12 September 2010 - 14:53.

No. Webber wasn't close enough to gain an advantage.

Doesnt matter if anyone is near you or not. If you cut the track 3 times its suppose to be a penalty.

Edited by F1EC, 12 September 2010 - 15:42.

Only for the 3rd time. The first two, Webber wasn't anywhere close to close enough to pass.

I think he should for sure have yielded the spot. 3 times was too many, even though I don't think his blocks were unfair, he always moved only once. I can understand Webbers frustration though.

I really think they should make better systems/rules for this though. I just don't like to see cars go straight and if like nothing happened stay were they are or even get a little more ahead sometimes. Sure they don't do it on purpose, but there has got to be a little disadvantage at least.

Iam not normally one to rush to penalties but Hulkenburg really took the mickey today. If that was Hamilton, it would have been " Car number two under investigation straight away" and this forum would be up in arms.

If they'd penalised Hulkenberg for cutting, wouldn't they also have had to penalise Alonso for when he did it? And no way was that going to happen in Italy, especially when Alonso was lined up for a potential win.
Easier for the stewards to be seen to be incompetent and inconsistent over applying the rules, than to blatantly favour Ferrari.

Exactly. It didn't come as a suprise that Alonso got away with it. I think that is the reason they didn't penalize Hulkenburg.

For the 10th time Hulk cut chicanes at least THREE times.

For the 10th time Hulk cut chicanes at least THREE times.

Are you saying it is OK for Alonso to cut the chicane one or two times?

Are you saying it is OK for Alonso to cut the chicane one or two times?

Alonso made a mistake and probably didn't gain from it..

Edited by Diablobb81, 12 September 2010 - 16:11.

Apparently the rules say if you dont gain advantage it is overlooked unless you do it 3 times.

Edited by jesee, 12 September 2010 - 16:11.

Maybe the few tenths he gained or time he recovered was the difference that paid off later in pit stops we will never know will we?

Alonso lost 1 sec. And wasn't his off after the pitstop?

You always gain an advantage by cutting the chicane. You are straight lining the corner and gaining time on the guy infront or at the very least, you can recover from a mistake you have made. Or are you saying that if that was Monaco, Alonso would still do what he did? No, because he would be out of the race. It doesn't make it right whether it is Hulkenburg doing it, or Ferrari at home race with Alonso onboard. Maybe the few tenths he gained or time he recovered was the difference that paid off later in pit stops we will never know will we?

You always gain an advantage by cutting the chicane. You are straight lining the corner and gaining time on the guy infront or at the very least, you can recover from a mistake you have made. Or are you saying that if that was Monaco, Alonso would still do what he did? No, because he would be out of the race. It doesn't make it right whether it is Hulkenburg doing it, or Ferrari at home race with Alonso onboard. Maybe the few tenths he gained or time he recovered was the difference that paid off later in pit stops we will never know will we?

That's the interpretation you made up in your head.

Usually, cutting the track is penalized when someone gains from it in a close fight, which is what happened with Hulkenberg and Webber.

What Alonso did happens very often and, without being a pedantic weirdo, it was between him and the track. It was an honest mistake which didn't bother any of his competitors.

You are not getting my point. He made a mistake in his braking and cut the chicane. If there was a wall there like Monaco, he would not do that. He knew he could take the risk and gain from it without risking his race if it pays off. Therefore cutting a chicane is an advantage.

What the hell are you talking about? It was after the pitstop, it reduced Alonso's lead from almost 4 seconds to 2.7, and after Hungary 2006 Whiting said you have to jump it 3 times for a penalty to be applied.

Agreed -its a driver decision to cut the chicane instead of locking up, losing more time by getting back onto the circuit earlier.

Never used to happen when there was more gravel & grass around - because they would lose more time cutting...

You are not getting my point. He made a mistake in his braking and cut the chicane. If there was a wall there like Monaco, he would not do that. He knew he could take the risk and gain from it without risking his race if it pays off. Therefore cutting a chicane is an advantage.

Edited by prty, 12 September 2010 - 16:30.