Fernando Alonso - The Inheritor

All drivers have good & bad luck over their careers. Every champion needs some luck. Good on Alonso for having some recently. Complaining about it is sour grapes pure & simple. When the history books document past champions they don't include a footnote saying "he got lucky"

I follow Webber, often dubbed the "unluckiest driver in F1" from 2001-2008. Finally he has some good fortune this season & his knockers rant about how lucky he's been. It's pathetic.

The great white is Alonso.

And forgot not:
-Monaco chassis destroyed after a small crash at FP3
-Montreal's bad luck with back markers.

The following kinda depicts what Webber and Vettel felt like today until they were done:



The great white is Alonso.

You are mixing bad luck and mistakes

Edited by kosmos, 24 October 2010 - 13:01.

I don't know what all this "luck" is coming from....
Isn't there a saying "The best are usually the luckiest" "The luckiest allways win" or something close to that, it's just an excuse because person "X" isn't in the same position as person "Y".

I consider luck a trait, looks like alonso at this point of the championship is the best.

"The more I practice, the luckier I get." (Gary Player)

Suzuka 2006
Korea 2010

Each time he was good enough to be in a position to profit from the bad luck of his direct competitors, but he is definitely also kissed by Fortuna, the Goddess of Luck.

Sounds like another Fernando bash thread...

Edited by vivian, 24 October 2010 - 13:52.

Yeah, too many crappers here.

Monza 2006????????

Yeah, too many crappers here.

People bashed Alonso when he commited mistakes early in the season. And Germany happened for a reason, plus wins at Monza and Singapore; threads like "will you be happy to see Alonso win the title since he was gifted 7 extra points" had already started. Now the championship isnt finished, we have crappers with threads like these. Where is the credit when its due, all we se are haters around here who cant even acknowledge a rival's great drive.

Fernando and Ferrari has come back from nowhere mid season to lead the championship two races to go. Its simple beyond some people's wildest dreams, because they thought Lewis the driver of century would be leading, but no he isnt; Vettel with all his speed isnt, Webber crashed, Hamilton crashed, Alonso has crashed this season. TIME TO WAKE UP, Alonso is leading the championship.
The same people who use morals and ethics to condemn the incident in Germany, hide behind the very same curtains like cowards when beaten fair and square over and over again.

With crap like that, you would appear to be one of the 'crappers' you speak of.

Edited by vivian, 24 October 2010 - 14:04.

Of course he is but the thread is not about that. The thread is about his luck. Don't get me wrong, I think he's been driving well for the last few races but if you look at his 5 victories we can see that besides being gifted in germany he inherited two others. So, the thread makes sence.

Oh a Lewis fan

"The more I practice, the luckier I get." (Gary Player)

Well done and enjoy.

Nice to see some decent trophies too.

Suzuka 2006
Korea 2010

Each time he was good enough to be in a position to profit from the bad luck of his direct competitors, but he is definitely also kissed by Fortuna, the Goddess of Luck.

It makes sense for people making excuses. Or who just want to cry.

But the fact still remains; 50% of his legit wins where inherited. Is it not ?

Hamilton should have won the Korean GP after the Ferrari pit mistake. Alonso did not lose control, drove better and won.

Alonso the inheritor?

Let's not forget that EVERYONE gained a place when Vettel retired - so I guess they're ALL inheritors. It's silly to try to tarnish Alonso's achievement in this race by implying he somehow didn't deserve it because Vettels engine blew. FA was in the best place to gain from Vettels retirement - you can hardly slag him for that.

Ultimately I wouldn't say that Alonso was "lucky" as much as Vettel was VERY unlucky.

Still beats the crap of not knowing how to warm up your tires.

Melbourne this year Vettel also had a motor problem and Alonso got the win. For the thread to make sense, it would be far better to have all races where Alonso inherited victories due to technical problems of other cars and races where Alonso did not win a race due to technical problems. Just naming two races isn't a very good opening post.

How's the taste of bile in your mouth? Still there?

Still beats the crap of not knowing how to warm up your tires.

Hamilton should have won the Korean GP after the Ferrari pit mistake. Alonso did not lose control, drove better and won.

Edited by velgajski1, 24 October 2010 - 15:43.

In fact, some Hamilton Fans said he would lead the race after a few laps when the race started

But that clearly wasn't the case, was it? You don't honestly think Jenson is suddenly 4 seconds off the pace? The car was clearly rubbish.

Alonso the inheritor?

Let's not forget that EVERYONE gained a place when Vettel retired - so I guess they're ALL inheritors. It's silly to try to tarnish Alonso's achievement in this race by implying he somehow didn't deserve it because Vettels engine blew. FA was in the best place to gain from Vettels retirement - you can hardly slag him for that.

Ultimately I wouldn't say that Alonso was "lucky" as much as Vettel was VERY unlucky.

I wouldn't say tarnish but it sure put give us some perspective about his achievments.

"Too much f.. perspective." Name the better driver out of the top five this season, please. Just to put these achievements into perspective even more.

Not necessarily. As Button himself said, he was suffering massive tyre wear, but at the same time unable to get heat and grip into the tyres. Unless of course you are accussing him of making that up. From actually watching the race it was clear from both starts that the McLaren was taking a few laps to get up to speed compared to the Red Bulls and Alonso at the front, which would tend to indicate an issue with bringing the tyres into operating temperature. Seems that whenever 'poor Hamilton' is involved in anything you throw a flakey. Perhaps try and be a bit more balanced and it would negate pointless arguements arising from your childish bitterness towards one of the best racing drivers in the world?

Suzuka 2006

Edited by Disgrace, 24 October 2010 - 16:52.

Herp derp.

Alonso lost 10 points in Hungary 2006 due to a wheel nut and another 6 in Monza 2006 due to engine failure. That's SIXTEEN POINTS LOST.

Schumacher lost his 10 in Suzuka. TEN POINTS LOST. Schumacher lost his other points due to crashing: Australia and Hungary. Alonso didn't make a single mistake all year that ended his race.

Do yer research!

Suzuka 2006
Korea 2010

Each time he was good enough to be in a position to profit from the bad luck of his direct competitors, but he is definitely also kissed by Fortuna, the Goddess of Luck.

Not to mention Raikkonen's misfortunes during 2005

Poor Kimi. I wonder why those naughty people at Ferrari fired him to hire evil Alonso....

Alonso has had his share of luck but i think since pretty much since 05 every champ has had some luck.

2005 - unreliable macca helps alonso

2006 - shuey engine going in suzuka help nando

2007 - hamiltons gearbox issue in brazil helps kimi.

2008 - massa engine going in hungary or the infamous singapore "fixgate" helps lewis

2009 - unreliable RBR plus driver errors help JB.

To win the title you do need a bit of luck

Edited by AdamKOR, 24 October 2010 - 18:44.