Educated drivers
#1
Posted 11 August 2001 - 12:59
I'm wondering, now, about educated drivers: nowadays they seem to be racing their whole lives, and doing nothing else. But there have been exceptions (Dr Farrina, Piquet, and of course rich privateers).
Anyone know anything about the sucessful drivers?
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#2
Posted 11 August 2001 - 13:06
And what was Nelson Piquet's education?
#3
Posted 11 August 2001 - 13:14
Originally posted by No27
And what was Nelson Piquet's education?
Ooops! I though that NP was a Uni. grad. No?
#4
Posted 11 August 2001 - 13:23
#5
Posted 11 August 2001 - 15:04
#6
Posted 11 August 2001 - 16:52
Dr. Jack Miller is also a dentist.
#7
Posted 11 August 2001 - 16:56
#8
Posted 11 August 2001 - 17:00
#9
Posted 11 August 2001 - 17:22
Tommy Kendall graduated from UCLA.
#10
Posted 11 August 2001 - 17:30
i have to add that whether or not he was a trained engineer in today's sense, he certainly seemed to have a natural gift for engineering in the broad sense.
also, don't forget mark donahue. i believe he went to brown university.
#11
Posted 11 August 2001 - 18:16
Originally posted by No27
Not so very succesfull but off course we had Dr. Jonathan Palmer.
I would have thought that making it in to Formula One was, in fact, the mark of a successful driver. Jonathan Palmer is a very good driver - and successful.
And he wasn't really "off course" that often!!
#12
Posted 11 August 2001 - 19:03
#13
Posted 11 August 2001 - 19:28
Originally posted by Rainer Nyberg
Dr. Jack Miller is also a dentist.
I think I wouldn't call him a racing driver though... he is REALLY bad. Team Stewart (Indy lights Stewart) has a major laugh every time he hears that guys name. Inventing excuses in order to park the car...
Servia in CART has a mechanical engineering degree.
#14
Posted 11 August 2001 - 19:45
I just had to put that in since everyone else has already beat me to Alan Kulwicki, Tony Brooks, Mark Donohue, and Dr. Jack Miller. NASCAR legend Fireball Roberts was not only a good ole boy but a college boy as well. He attended the University of Florida and was trying to get a mechanical engineering degree but he didn't complete the program. I guess he enjoyed racing and figured he could make a better living at it.
#15
Posted 11 August 2001 - 19:56
PJM
#16
Posted 11 August 2001 - 20:08
#17
Posted 11 August 2001 - 20:20
I think Vaccarella was just a teacher (sorry, Barry!)
#18
Posted 11 August 2001 - 20:31
#19
Posted 11 August 2001 - 22:12
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#20
Posted 11 August 2001 - 23:54
As with a lot of others, though, Piquet was/is intelligent, if not educated.
Jack Brabham was not a qualified engineer. The course he did with the RAAF was more along the lines of fitting and machining, and for three years, I think. He was a very good machinist. Obviously, as stated, he also had/has a very good grasp of engineering in a practical sense.
#21
Posted 12 August 2001 - 03:08
I believe that Ralf Schumacher and Alexander Wurz both have degrees in mechanical engineering, but I`m not really sure.
Also, I have recently visited www.cart.com and I was surprised at the relatively high number of drivers with higher education.
#22
Posted 12 August 2001 - 04:42
#23
Posted 12 August 2001 - 08:19
So he's both a lawyer and a teacher But I distinctively remember him being mentioned as a "Volksschullehrer" (elementary school teacher) several times in German publications, must check that some time.Originally posted by cabianca
Vacarella was/is a Law Professor in Sicily.
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Posted 12 August 2001 - 14:05
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Posted 12 August 2001 - 15:33
#26
Posted 13 August 2001 - 02:06
#27
Posted 13 August 2001 - 08:41
Originally posted by leegle
I remember reading during the time of his heyday that Vaccarella used to go out and do a lap of the circuit after classes every day. The impression of the story was that he taught at a school on the circuit.
Vaccarella was interviewed in a recent Motor Sport magazine as part of a "Track Test" of the Targa Florio.
Walk past him on the street and you'd guess teacher. Or Lawyer. And you'd be right on both counts.
Vaccarella knew the 44 miles of the Piccolo Madonie off by heart.
"Every centimetre" he asserts. "I did hundreds of testing laps. Every evening after I had finished my work at school, I used to do two or three laps."
#28
Posted 13 August 2001 - 11:20
Nigel Mansell attained a Higher National Diploma in Engineering at age 21.
Helmut Marko had a doctorate in Law.
Michael May was an engineer, but I am unaware of his exact qualifications.
David Murray was a chartered accountant by profession.
Dave Walker trained to be an accountant.
Simon.
#29
Posted 13 August 2001 - 12:51
The Swedish would have come in handy at Mid-Ohio, to explain to team-mate Brack why Max had punted him off. And the politics would be useful to try to retain his seat...Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Max Papis has a degree in Political Science from Milan and speaks several languages, including Swedish I belevie
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Posted 13 August 2001 - 13:00
#31
Posted 14 August 2001 - 14:19
mat
#32
Posted 14 August 2001 - 14:29
#33
Posted 14 August 2001 - 14:56
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Max Papis has a degree in Political Science from Milan and speaks several languages, including Swedish I belevie
So i guess Max would be able to understand what Kenny said after he had punted him off the road in the last couple of races.
#34
Posted 15 August 2001 - 13:34
#35
Posted 16 August 2001 - 18:07
#36
Posted 16 August 2001 - 19:27
Andrea de Adamich might have a degree (studying law)
Tont Brise had a (honours) degree in business administration
Mark Donohue had a Bsc in Mechanical Engineering
Nigel Mansell is "a qualified engineer"
The last 4 from "Formula one drivers' profiles by Simon Scott.
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Posted 16 August 2001 - 22:30
#38
Posted 17 August 2001 - 00:22
#39
Posted 27 August 2001 - 16:30
Nino Farina had a Political Science PhD (at least according to the French, as was constitutes PS is very different depending on culture)
Bobby Rahal's degree from Dennison is in Military History.
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#40
Posted 27 August 2001 - 20:10
#41
Posted 28 August 2001 - 17:37
#42
Posted 31 August 2001 - 00:42
I think Piquet went to California to play tennis, not really to pursue a degree. What about Harald Ertl, he was a racing journalist too; did he get a degree somewhere?
#43
Posted 31 August 2001 - 12:38
Also, I have recently visited www.cart.com and I was surprised at the relatively high number of drivers with higher education.
I think higher education is more ingrained into US culture - I'm a middle class, privately educated Brit and it was by no means certain that I'd go to university but it's a lot different for my American friends. Mind you, there's only about 4 US drivers in CART now isn't there?
The thing that confuses me, especially with the newer drivers, like Wurz and Ralf, how can they go to college when they spend so much time on the track?
The British drivers now almost certainly leave school at 16, or sooner if they have tutors or homeschool. McLaren are making their 16 y/o protege take A levels at least though.
#44
Posted 31 August 2001 - 14:06
Shame on you.
I'm a middle class Brit who was a result of a comprehensive school education and I'm pretty certain that your statement should read
" Mind you there ARE only about 4 US drivers in CART now ARE'NT there "
Just being picky !! It's what you are saying that counts !!!
Chris
#45
Posted 31 August 2001 - 15:55
#46
Posted 31 August 2001 - 16:03
Hope this doesn't start up a public ( Private school in the UK ) vs private ( Is that a public school elsewhere ?? ) school education !!
#47
Posted 31 August 2001 - 17:26
Public/Private/Independent
=
Anywhere else
Private
lololol (sorry Chris ;))
#48
Posted 31 August 2001 - 22:36
Originally posted by LittleChris
Birdie,
Shame on you.
I'm a middle class Brit who was a result of a comprehensive school education and I'm pretty certain that your statement should read
" Mind you there ARE only about 4 US drivers in CART now ARE'NT there "
Just being picky !! It's what you are saying that counts !!!
Chris
Actually Chris, it should read:
" Mind you there are only about 4 US drivers in CART now AREN'T there "
Just being picky !! It's what you are saying that counts !!!
#49
Posted 02 September 2001 - 16:58
#50
Posted 02 September 2001 - 17:13