But the Kieft de Soto is not for sale...?
Edited by David Beard, 23 October 2012 - 21:44.
Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:50
Edited by David Beard, 23 October 2012 - 21:44.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 19:54
Edited by David Beard, 23 October 2012 - 21:45.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 00:39
Originally posed by David Beard
But the Kieft de Soto is not for sale...?
Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:38
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:46
Originally posted by ken devine
This Kieft Desoto ran in the Historic demonstration at this years AGP. A beautiful car i had not seen one before.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:13
This Kieft Desoto ran in the Historic demonstration at this years AGP. A beautiful car i had not seen one befor
Posted 27 January 2013 - 21:58
I understand that the Kieft GP car is now owned by VSCC member Nigel Batchelor. Looking forward to seeing him racing it next year
Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:02
Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:27
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 14:10
DRAT!!!.Not sure about spring start as am supposed to be doing flying Scotsman and the tour auto, so end April diary pretty busy. More likely brands hatch in may, but will post here if that changes
Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:45
Here is a very short video of the kieft f1 car at a very wet, cold and windy donington in November...........turn the volume up before playing.
http://www.youtube.c...be_gdata_player
Hopefully the car will be out reasonably regularly this season with the Hgpca.
Nigel batchelor
Edited by David Beard, 29 January 2013 - 13:07.
Posted 29 January 2013 - 18:02
It's a superb noise, isn't it!
Great to see you here Nigel. I hope you have enjoyed the thread.
I see you've posted some interesting stuff about your Bentley at "the other place".
http://www.ten-tenth...d.php?p=2569205
And this is brilliant too!
http://www.streamica.../#v/R7Xa_1z3Br4
Similar reportage of your forthcoming Kieft experiences will be most welcome!
Posted 30 January 2013 - 18:04
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 22:15
Most significantly, the complete original bodywork had survived with the prototype and spare chassis frames, although the panels still required final finishing.
Posted 31 January 2013 - 19:23
According to the Bonhams auction blurb the body and (two) chassis are original:
Posted 01 February 2013 - 16:22
I hadn't seen that, thanks Tim.
Posted 01 February 2013 - 16:53
As it was probably written by Doug Nye, I think you can trust it.Do you think Bonham's marketing blurb can be relied on? Is there any other info on when the chassis was actually built?
Posted 01 February 2013 - 22:44
Posted 01 February 2013 - 23:08
Shouldn't be a problem, Lee, provided that the scavenge pump has enough capacity [usually about 2X pressure pump]. It does say "filters", which indicates plenty of flow capacity.Reading that article it says that the oil is filtered on the scavenge side. Not a good idea as there is no pressure on that side and filtering and cooling restricts the flow back to the tank, and fills the engine with oil.You have to do it on the pressure side, as the pressure pushed the oil through all the restrictions with little fuss. Though many people seem to bugger that up too. Often because it does not look pretty!
That really is drysumping 101.
Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:40
Every text on the subject says dont do it. I tried just with the cooler and it banked up oil in the engine in the shed at idle. That was a 3 stage Weaver pump, a proven quality item. 2 stages returning oil to the tank.Shouldn't be a problem, Lee, provided that the scavenge pump has enough capacity [usually about 2X pressure pump]. It does say "filters", which indicates plenty of flow capacity.
Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:38
Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:55
Greg, it does not matter what filter you use. Scavenge has no pressure as such to force through the filters. And any filter that is such low impedence will not filter the oil! Kind of the object!Lee, if the correct filters are used, i.e. high-flow, low pressure [a la Porsche 911], it will work fine. If you just 'chuck on a Z9', then there could be [probably will be] trouble.
Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:36
Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:57
This'd be the oneThis thread reminds me of an old thread about of guy rebuilding a rare British 50s single seater. I can't remember what it was but he was a gifted engineeer doing all the work himself. He used to type updates about with no punctuation and I think his daughter added some photos. I thought his name was Chapamn but I've been unable to find it. I wonder what happened to the car?
Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:55
Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:57
Seen at the HGPCA test day. Sorry I missed talking to Nigel.
I took the Kieft GP car to Pau this weekend and was hoping to report positively. The weekend started well with a the car going well in free practice and after 15 laps learning the circuit I felt very confident in the car. However pride came before a fall and in qualifying I overcooked the entry to station hairpin, got on the slippery side and ended up clipping the kerb and then tyre wall. Speed was low at 15mph, but result was a dented nose and broken wishbones. Very cross with myself. Car should be out again at Dijon, where I am determined to do better and then at silverstone classic.
Nigel B
Posted 27 May 2013 - 21:08
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 21:43
Unfortunately if a car on narrow fities tyres goes into a gravel trap, it will overturn (A risk that didn't exist in period). Hence the need to provide a rollover bar.I'm sorry to see yet another historic Grand Prix car defaced with the addition of a bloody roll over bar.
Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:49
Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:50
If Nigel Batchelor wants a roll over bar whats the problem?
He's spending his money making it work.
Do the people who are complaining run their G P cars without one?
Posted 31 May 2013 - 13:36
Posted 31 May 2013 - 14:09
Upon your head be it, then.I do race without one.
Posted 31 May 2013 - 15:29
Edited by Rudernst, 31 May 2013 - 15:31.
Posted 31 May 2013 - 17:11
I confess that I tend to avoid photographing cars with non-period roll-over bars, but in the event that one slips through there is always Photoshop...
Posted 31 May 2013 - 17:26
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 00:03
I am having a Lotus 12 restored
Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:00
Which Lotus 12 do you have? Where is it being restored?
Vince H.
Edited by Rudernst, 02 June 2013 - 09:02.
Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:53
Posted 09 April 2015 - 23:38
Hi David
I have enjoyed the thread, and would have posted here earlier but it has taken me a while to be approved to post on this Forum....
On my Bentley, I raced the Blower for four years mainly in VSCC and Motor Racing Legends events, and also have rallied it in historic events. however I have just sold it as it is becoming more difficult to race it as the non VSCC events have all but disappeared, and as was pointed out at "the other place" Bentleys are not particularly manoeuvreable and round the short tight circuits cannot compete with cars from the post-vintage period against which it has to race.
I have an Aston DB2/4 from 1953 which I will continue to race in the Woodcote trophy, so the Kieft thus represents a bit of a change of direction, racing wise, for me. Although we have a great deal of information on the car from the previous owner, it will be a bit of a voyage of discovery this year as we get used to its foibles. I will post what I hope will be interesting snippets as they arise: we took it out at Donington in November just to see what was what before the winter, and to see what work needs to be done. We originally thought that we would convert to Avgas from Methanol, as it is easier to obtain and Methanol cars are notoriously difficult to start when cold: whilst at 5 degrees Centigrade at Donington it was a pig to start, it actually ran beautifully once warmed up, and we did about 30 laps in all, and so we will keep it on Methanol for this year at least.
As I have mentioned in a previous post, I suspect that I will not make the spring start this year but will post again if that changes. I hope to be at Brands hatch 25th/27th may and Silverstone classic on 26/28 July in the UK.
Needless to say anyone is welcome to come over and have a chat about the car and look around it when we are at the races: it is a fantastic and unique piece of kit
Nigel B
Two years late. Methanol engines usually start ok with a squirt of petrol from a squeeze bottle down the intakes. Even when very cold. Starter fluid will probably achieve the same end too ofcourse.
Posted 10 April 2015 - 16:31
Has anyone heard of Martyn Chapman and his SEL project? It's been a few years since he posted here.
Posted 28 January 2019 - 14:37
Can anyone help me with dimensions of the Kieft GP car.
I am looking for the usual : Length /Width / Overall height / Wheelbase / Fr & R Tracks