1967 racing New Zelanders
#1
Posted 04 December 2004 - 08:14
In order to complete a little directory of 1967 drivers, I am searching for Date & place of Birth (& if required of Death) for everyone in this list.
I yet have information for Chris Amon, Howden Ganley, Dennis Hulme, Graeme Lawrence, Bruce McLaren, Graham McRae, John Nicholson & Kenny Smith. Only 8.
Here is the list of the remaining 35 :
Vince ANDERSON (born in Queensland ?)
Ian ARBUTHNOTT (from Rotorua)
Tim BAILEY
Tony BATCHELOR (from Christchurch)
Paul BOLTON (Australian who emigrated to NZ)
Jim BOYD (from Lynfield)
BRACKLEY (a man who entered at Levin but dna)
Lawrence BROWNLIE (from Kelso)
Reg COOK
Ian "Red" DAWSON
Mike ENGLAND
Bryan FALOON (from Levin, born 1944, died 1972 at Pukekohe)
Kerry GRANT (1942)
Grahame HARVEY
HETTERSCHELD (a man who entered at Levin but dna)
Dene HOLLIER (from Taihape)
Jim KENNEDY (from Greymouth)
Roly LEVIS (from Putaruru, born February 1925)
Peter "Pat" McLOUGHLIN
Roger McLOUGHLIN (his brother)
Don MACDONALD (from Matamata)
Dennis MARWOOD (from Morrinsville)
David OXTON (born in UK 1946)
Jim PALMER (from Waikato, born 1942)
Frank RADISICH (from Henderson, father of Paul)
Peter RANSOM (from Lower Hutt)
John RILEY (from Papatoetoe, father of Brett ?)
Tony RUTHERFURD (from New Plymouth)
Ken SAGER (from Auckland)
Tony SHAW (from Christchurch)
Feo STANTON
Arthur "Bill" STONE (from Clevedon)
Bill THOMASEN (from Papakura, father of Barrie)
John WESTON (from Whangarei)
Peter YOCK
Any information, fellows ? David ?
Thanks by advance.
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#2
Posted 04 December 2004 - 09:52
Sadly departed include:
Tim Bailey - 2003
Jim Boyd
Red Dawson
The Hettershield you mention was George, an early FVee driver.
Johnny Riley (who is not well) is Brett's Dad.
All I can help re dates is:
David Oxton b22/12/45
Robbie Francevic b18/9/41
Jimmy Palmer b5/1/42
and sadly
Bryan Faloon d8/1/72
Good luck
#3
Posted 04 December 2004 - 10:18
Obviously, in the specific year you've mentioned, anyone competing in the international (Tasman Championship) and Gold Star (national championship, also to the Tasman Formula) would qualify. So presumably would competitors in the National Formula series, for 1500cc twin-cam cars. But is a 2.6-litre Zephyr Special 'above' Formula 3? Or a 4500cc Corvette-powered car?
I was about to criticise the NZ list you've published on the basis that all those people didn't race single-seaters in 1967, but on re-reading see that you didn't actually say that.
However I can made a few comments on the names there:
I doubt very much if Paul Bolton ever emigrated to New Zealand, though he did race on a NZ licence for one season - maybe two
It was Tom Brackley
and Laurence (not Lawrence) Brownlie
and Irvine (not Ian) Dawson
Who is Mike England?
George Hetterscheid (not Hetterscheld or Hettershield)
Was Pat McLoughlin really Peter? He might have been, though I don't think I've ever heard of it.
I think you're confusing Barrie Thomlinson with Gary Thomasen?
Finally, there is absolutely no logic in listing anything to do with NZ racing in calendar years. National championships ran from November (sometimes earlier) until March (sometimes later). Drivers bought or built cars in the (NZ) winter for the next, eg 1966/67 season, and changed them for the one after. Anyone moving up to single-seater classes would logically do so at the start of a new season.
#4
Posted 04 December 2004 - 10:59
Are you also including drivers who raced qualifying cars (ie, F3 cars and above) in non-qualifying races? Eg, drivers of various Brabhams, Coopers etc in British libre races?
#5
Posted 04 December 2004 - 12:40
Are there two Dawsons? Every Tasman website & book I have seen lists Ian DawsonOriginally posted by David McKinney
...and Irvine (not Ian) Dawson
1965 through 1969, mainly in Brabhams....
#6
Posted 04 December 2004 - 12:59
The original site probably got its information from one or other of Graham Vercoe's books
...which in turn were no doubt based on Peter Greenslade's reports in Autosport
Trouble was, dear old Peter couldn't bring himself to use someone's nickname, so called him Ian Dawson.
Only two problems with that:
(i) no-one ever called him anything but Red
(ii) his real name was Irvine
#7
Posted 04 December 2004 - 13:03
#8
Posted 04 December 2004 - 22:05
He ran the Tasman Cup series in 1966... but from memory the car was owned by New Zealanders... then he ran again in the 1967 series, I'm sure it was the same car, but I'm having trouble remembering which car it was. David?
#9
Posted 04 December 2004 - 22:21
The story of the Rorstan 2.5 Brabhams is a bit cloudy. I think there were three, at least one of which may have had a Rennmax frame at some stage or other. And that's before the Rennmax-framed Rosrtan-Climax....
Most NZ histories of that time I can relate (more or less) off the top of my head, but I'd have to dig a bit to get to the bottom of the Rorstan cars
#10
Posted 04 December 2004 - 23:05
I don't think he would have had to live in NZ to get the licence there, as Palmer never lived here.
And is Roly Levis really that old?
#11
Posted 04 December 2004 - 23:09
#12
Posted 05 December 2004 - 00:34
Originally posted by Ray Bell
And is Roly Levis really that old?
Yes - I only discovered this myself last year and was amazed.
That means he landed the BT23C-FVA at 43/44 years of age and proceeded to drive like a teenager.
Rollo was seriously good.
#13
Posted 05 December 2004 - 10:30
(Well, not really the only : some club organizations in the USA do the same)
How to manage this in line with the rest of the world ?
1- Register the latter half of 66/67 season
2- & the former half of 67/68
In order to have things ordered, I'll publish along the list of accounted races (with winners).
These are the ones in New Zeland :
INTERNATIONAL TASMAN SERIES (& related)
XIV New Zealand Grand Prix Pukekohe 99.75 miles (57 x 1.750) FINAL Jackie Stewart (BRM) 07.01.1967
Vic Hudson Trophy Levin 12.00 miles (10 x 1.200) Richard Attwood (BRM) 14.01.1967
VII Levin Grand Prix Levin 51.60 miles (43 x 1.200) FINAL Jim Clark (Lotus / Climax) 14.01.1967
XIII Lady Wigram Trophy Wigram 101.20 miles (44 x 2.300) FINAL Jim Clark (Lotus / Climax) 21.01.1967
X Teretonga International Invercargill 91.50 miles (60 x 1.525) FINAL Jim Clark (Lotus / Climax) 28.01.1967
OTHER RACES INVOLVING FORMULA TASMAN CARS
I Timaru Trophy Timaru 33.00 miles (30 x 1.100) Dennis Marwood (Cooper / Climax) 04.02.1967
Rothmans Trophy Pukekohe 10.50 miles (6 x 1.750) Red Dawson (Brabham / Climax) 25.02.1967
Wills Trophy Levin 17.59 miles (15 x 1.200) Jim Palmer (Brabham / Climax) 18.03.1967
Pukekohe Pukekohe ?? miles (? x 1.750) Jim Palmer (Brabham / Climax) 08.04.1967
Dunlop Trophy Pukekohe 43.75 miles (25 x 1.750) Jim Palmer (McLaren / Ford) 04.11.1967
Bay Park Inaugural Bay Park ?? miles (? x 1.336) Jim Palmer (McLaren / Ford) 03.12.1967
Rothmans Trophy Pukekohe 43.75 miles (25 x 1.750) Jim Palmer (McLaren / Ford) 09.12.1967
I Bay Park Championship Bay Park 26.72 miles (20 x 1.336) Jim Palmer (McLaren / Ford) 30.12.1967
NATIONAL FORMULA (proper races)
Ruapuna Ruapuna ?? miles (? x ?) Tony Shaw (Brabham / Ford) 29.10.1967
Ruapuna Ruapuna ?? miles (? x ?) Graeme Lawrence (Brabham / Ford) 18.11.1967
My sources are Paul Sheldon fact books & Vercoe's NZ book.
The Bolton information I mentioned ("emigrated to NZ") is from this latter book.
Dawson being called "Ian" is from Sheldon.
#14
Posted 05 December 2004 - 13:29
Now they’re here, we can add the birth/death details later.
Ron Abbott
Bruce Abernethy
Jiggs Alexander
Kevin Allport
Graeme Amos
Rodger Anderson
Vince Anderson
Ian Arbuthnott
John Armstrong
Tim Bailey
Graham Baker
Tony Baker
Bill Barber
Tony Batchelor
Vic Blackburn
Jim Boyd
Snow Brogan
Laurence Brownlie
Larry Bryant
Vic Charsley
John Colvin
Red Dawson
Dexter Dunlop*
Lincoln Evans
Bryan Faloon
Kerry Grant*
Hec Green
Ian Green*
Derek Hall*
Grahame Harvey
Bert Hawthorne*
Dene Hollier
Denis Hulme
Les Jones
Barry Keen
Jim Kennedy
Peter Knight
Graeme Lawrence
Barry Lee
Peter Leversedge
Roly Levis
W Lyle
Don Macdonald
Keith McFadzien
Keith McLelland
Ken McLennan
Pat McLoughlin
Roger McLoughlin
Graham McRae
Dennis Marwood
John Nicholson
David Oxton
Jim Palmer
Ross Payne
Frank Radisich
Peter Ransom
John Reid
Allan Rhodes
Tony Rutherfurd*
Ken Sager
Tony Shaw
Arthur Smith
Ken Smith
Norm Smith
Bill Stone
Neil Stuart
Russell Thomson
Lindsay Tosh
John Weston
Peter Yock
* = dna or dns
Of the other names on Jimmy’s list, Reg Cook, Johnny Riley and Feo Stanton did not race single-seaters in 1967, and I’m still trying to work out who Mike England is
#15
Posted 05 December 2004 - 15:17
I surely miss a lot of 1967 (66/67 or 67/68) races !
Or may be I have uncomplete entry list here & there.
About some "problematic" names :
- Reg Cook. I have him entered (d n a) at Lakeside (Tasman series), perhaps with n° 26
- Mike England. Entered at Timaru with a 1.5 Lotus Ford. D n s.
- Pat McLoughlin. I read somewhere his name was Peter A. T. McLoughlin.
- John Riley started 2 single-seater races with his Sportscar Lotus (modified 18/21 'P1') to make weight.
- Feo Stanton. Entered at Levin International (Tasman series) with Rorstan Brabham BT7A. d n s
#16
Posted 05 December 2004 - 17:20
More likely entire missing races at the lower levelOriginally posted by Jimmy Piget
Or may be I have uncomplete entry list here & there.
(1) You want all New Zealanders, not just those who raced in NZ?
- Reg Cook. I have him entered (d n a) at Lakeside (Tasman series), perhaps with n° 26
In that case you'd better add McLaren, Amon and Ganley
(2) The Lakeside entrant was Ian Cook, who was Australian
That would presumably be Martyn England, who occasionally drove Vic Blackburn's Lotus 18 in this period (as did Leversedge and Knight)
- Mike England. Entered at Timaru with a 1.5 Lotus Ford. D n s.
If you are for some reason including sportscar drivers in single-seater races I can probably give you another 70 names. Regardless of the origins of Riley's Lotus, it was a two-seater.
- John Riley started 2 single-seater races with his Sportscar Lotus (modified 18/21 'P1') to make weight.
Not so. At least he wasn't in the programme, and certainly didn't turn out.
- Feo Stanton. Entered at Levin International (Tasman series) with Rorstan Brabham BT7A. d n s
#17
Posted 05 December 2004 - 17:40
I did include Amon, McLaren & Ganley : they are within the first list I published here (with mention that I got every information on them)
About your list :
Bruce Abernethy — died 1999, according to some web site about speedway racing
Bert (Herbert) Hawthorne — born Northern Ireland 1943. died Hockenheim 15 April 1972
#18
Posted 08 December 2004 - 10:48
"Former Aussie Paul Bolton".
A erroneous information ?
#19
Posted 08 December 2004 - 11:15
I'm fairly sure I saw him at local race meetings after the Rorstan drive finished.
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#20
Posted 08 December 2004 - 12:08
But I'm sure at best he was a "NZ resident Australian"
#21
Posted 01 February 2005 - 11:31
10 February 1942, or 11 August 1941.
Who knows which is the more appropriate ?
What about all other kiwi drivers listed above ?
#22
Posted 05 February 2005 - 13:25
John Riley was well enough to be driving his BMW the other day I'm pleased to say.
#23
Posted 06 February 2005 - 20:35
#24
Posted 06 February 2005 - 21:23
I have a vague recollection that Brickley had raced in Australia before running the Tabra in NZ, though I have been unable (recently) to find any record of it.
#25
Posted 07 February 2005 - 06:40
May be he is one the current long-timest single-seater racer (along with Kiwi Kenny Smith & Irishman Tommy Reid) ?
Born 1940, so, but where ? Australia ? New Zealand ?
#26
Posted 07 February 2005 - 07:55
#27
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:46
It appears that he raced in NZ then in Australia, returned to NZ, and came back to Australia again.
I first met him early Seventies, but I havent seen him for years.
#28
Posted 08 February 2005 - 11:56
He worked along with the Burwood Auto Electrical people, IIRC, was it Brian Morrow?
#29
Posted 23 February 2005 - 04:32
Ian Dawson is more commonly referred to as "Red" Dawson I believe. I do not know about a Irvine Dawson though.
#30
Posted 23 February 2005 - 05:35
Originally posted by David McKinney
That's what you get when one website copies another
The original site probably got its information from one or other of Graham Vercoe's books
...which in turn were no doubt based on Peter Greenslade's reports in Autosport
Trouble was, dear old Peter couldn't bring himself to use someone's nickname, so called him Ian Dawson.
Only two problems with that:
(i) no-one ever called him anything but Red
(ii) his real name was Irvine
#31
Posted 23 February 2005 - 21:15
"Red" Dawson sure had an identity crisis!!!
#32
Posted 03 March 2005 - 11:20
Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
Tom Brickley last year was still racing — within the NSW State championship, in an AF2 Kaditcha FA82A — aged 64 ! May be he is one the current long-timest single-seater racer (along with Kiwi Kenny Smith & Irishman Tommy Reid) ?
There is Brickley's profile on this web site <http://www.formula2....om_brickley.htm>
« Always raced open wheelers
Commenced racing in 1964 in Lotus 18 F. Junior
1968 - Raced self-built Talora Ford in NZ
From 1971 on raced in Australia in rebuilt Talora Ford & Elfin Mono.
1979 raced B.A.W. VW
1984 competed in Birrana Gemini & Kaditcha FA82A - competed in AGP
1986 onward competed in current Kaditcha as AF2 car
1998 - 3rd in NSW AF2 Championship »
#33
Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:21
#34
Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:31
Originally posted by David McKinney
Talora should of copurse read 'Tabra' - someone's handwriting not very clear?
Either that or their typing...
As we all understand.
That was some flimsy car, as I recall. Very much a home made special amidst a field of very nice factory cars.
#35
Posted 03 March 2005 - 17:31
There is an e-mail address for him, but it alas proves to be a wrong one (I just noticed it, for my message to him was returned back by a kind of "mailer-daemon")
#36
Posted 03 March 2005 - 20:45
#37
Posted 10 October 2006 - 09:23
Bruce Abernethy was well known as Abo.