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#101 James Page

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:45

They are indeed Renault 5 GT Turbos, and despite my 1990/1992 confusion, I can definitely rule out 1984. The first race I can remember going to was the 1985 European GP at Brands Hatch, when De Angelis stuffed his Lotus into the barriers at Druids right in front of me. There's a picture of it elsewhere on the forum, and how the person who took it managed to NOT get me in the picture baffles me…

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#102 zoff2005

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:24

Yes you are probably right, I think a Samba is leading but the other cars seem to be mixtures of R5 and Golf, so it is probably a production car race in later years. Very forgettable cars anyhow!

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 11:42

Well, I fail to imagine a Samba leading a pack of Turbo'ed renaults on a track like Rouen.
And I'm not sure that the National Production Championship still had a 2nd Division in those days.
Forgettable or not, the Gordini cup and its followers allways provided entertainment.

#104 JamesPage

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 18:09

Okay - Dad reckons it was either 1990 or 1991, which means that, going from the Renault 5s being on the bill, it would have been 1990. Sorry for the confusion - it's a bit sad when your memory lets you down at only 28!

#105 lfcjari37

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 20:46

I think i'll leave this page till last:)

#106 James Page

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 09:07

Haven't had any luck finding the programme or any of the other bits that we came back with, I'm afraid.

#107 lfcjari37

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 09:24

Thats ok, your pictures are fantastic anyway:) THanks for tryng to find them:)

#108 Catalina Park

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 09:45

Here are some pics of the 73 F2 races. This was when they fitted the foam chicane after the fatal crash in practice. I got these pics fom Motor Sport Aug 73.
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#109 lfcjari37

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 09:55

Fantastic pics! Thanks for scanning those, much appreciated:)

#110 bigears

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 22:13

Originally posted by Rob Semmeling
Incredible photos, James! I find it hard to believe the circuit survived as long as it did, and always had troubles imagining what it must have been like in its final years. These photos show the odd combination of a fabulous yet outdated circuit with modern machinery. A great sight, I must say!


I agree with you there, this is one of the threads I have mostly enjoyed viewing at!

Keep up the good work, chaps! :)

#111 LittleChris

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 23:44

Last two pics being the lost generation of British drivers :(

#112 lfcjari37

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 04:51

The 2nd last one is Jarier isnt it?

#113 philippe7

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:00

Originally posted by lfcjari37
The 2nd last one is Jarier isnt it?


Yes, for sure ! ;)

#114 lfcjari37

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 10:48

Thought so:)

#115 Catalina Park

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 11:25

I had better include the captions...

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Through the absurd polystyrene block chicane erected after Gerry Birrell's fatal practice crash, Reine Wisell's GRD leads Wilson Fittipaldi's Brabham-BMW and Patrick Depailler's Elf. The race was won by Jarier's March-BMW.

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Following Gerry Birrell's fatal practice accident, an artifical chicane made out of polystyrene bales was inserted on the section after the pits. Wilson Fittipaldi's Brabham-BMW Schnitzer BT40 is seen leading Patrick Depailler's Elf through the clumsy obstruction.

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Jean-Pierre Jassaud and Emerson Fittipaldi similarly failed to feature in the results. (note, it is actually Ronnie Peterson not Emerson Fittipaldi, both were in Lotus 74. Jean-Pierre Jassaud was in a Motul)

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Hans Stuck Jnr chases Mass. (note, Stuck was in a March-BMW , Mass was in a Surtees)

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The picturesque Rouen-les Essarts circuit in Normandy hosted its annual Formula 2 international last month, victory going to Jean-Pierre Jarier seen opposite locking his March-BMW 732 out of the cobbled Nouveau Monde hairpin.

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Out of luck at Rouen was Welshman Tom Pryce.


#116 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 11:57

Originally posted by JamesPage
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Wonderful stuff!

#117 Catalina Park

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:05

Originally posted by Ray Bell


Wonderful stuff!

My thoughts as well.

#118 lfcjari37

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 06:11

THanks for the captions:)

#119 LittleChris

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 19:36

Originally posted by philippe7


Yes, for sure ! ;)


OOps thought it was Roger Williamson :o

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#120 bill moffat

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 14:14

No point in diverting to Rouen les Essarts on the way home from Le Mans this year, the bulldozers have done their job and memories of blasting through the downhill section in my Elan are becoming a faded memory. Besided which a 10km detour yesterday would have involved atleast a further 5 police speed traps....

Le Mans itself is also the subject of this vandalism. Over the years thousands of enthusiasts must have enjoyed standing on the top of the ACO Welcome tower watching the wonderful view down to the pits and the sweep up to the Dunlop bridge. This year the whole concrete edifice has disappeared and the section around the Dunlop Bridge has run-off areas that make Ricard look like Lydden...

To add insult to injury the prime ACO Welcome enclosure has been replaced by a row of anonymous smoke-windowed hospitality suites. They seemed to be occupied by a handful of "VIPs" all weekend, just the occasional punter emerging out onto the balcony for a snooze in the sun. The price of progress ?

#121 lfcjari37

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 18:54

This weekend would be the weekend to go... Moto les Essarts have their annual meeting there. Will any of you guys be attending?

#122 lfcjari37

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 00:17

The latest update should be up today or tomorrow, 1973, a tragic year.

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 00:37

1973 is now up, please let me know what you think:)

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 20:57

Facts and figures page is now up, including an onboard lap for 1962 with Graham Hill. Can anyone help me with some data:

Birthdates of Francois Burdet, Denis Dayan and Jean-Luc Saloman
Winners of Grand Prix de Rouen from 1987 to 1993

Thanks:)

#125 Rob29

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:50

Originally posted by lfcjari37
[B Can anyone help me with some data:


Winners of Grand Prix de Rouen from 1987 to 1993

Thanks:) [/B]

Not sure there is a 'winner'as such .As with the GP de Pau ,since the F3000 race was dropped, the title refers to the whole meeting,not any one individual race?

#126 philippe7

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:54

Denis Dayan was born in 1942 . Those who read french can check out his orbituary recently posted on Mémoire des Stands

http://memoiresdesta...-1942-1970.html

#127 lfcjari37

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 09:35

Thanks for that Philippe7. I did wonder that Rob29, can anyone confirm that there was no one race Grand Prix de Rouen from 87-93?

#128 MCS

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 19:36

Originally posted by lfcjari37
1973 is now up, please let me know what you think:)


This is becoming increasingly interesting :up:

Mindful of the images of some of the restoration that has been taking place at Reims recently, it really is a terrible shame that the Rouen buildings were so wantonly destroyed methinks.

I'm off to France this weekend, but simply can't face a visit to Rouen given it's current vandalised state. It's too depressing.

#129 lfcjari37

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 20:16

Cheers MCS:) Much work still to do, but its all very interesting:) As ever, if anyone has anything, whther it be photos, text or anything else that might help the site, please let me know!:)

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 10:55

1964 is now up, as ever, comments welcome:)

#131 LittleChris

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 21:52

Another thoroughly enjoyable article Gareth. One quibble however, I think those pictures captioned as Nouveau Monde in the 1964 piece are, in fact, Scierie.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 04:51

I think those pictures captioned as Nouveau Monde in the 1964 piece are, in fact, Scierie.


Thanks Chris, now I look at them I think you are right, ill get that fixed. As a side point, I am travelling here from far off NZ to Europe next year, and a pilgrimage to Rouen is very much on the agenda:)

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 20:46

All fixed, thanks again Chris:) Added a where are they now bit for the various winners as well.

#134 LittleChris

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 00:13

Really hope you enjoy the pilrgimage. Do what I do every year and scrape a few square metres of moss off the tarmac at Gresil !!

Talking of which, I'd be interested to know where the chicane was situated there in 1971. If they were trying to slow things down, I don't think it makes sense to have it at the exit of the corner. The road markings on the entry, until at least recently, indicate the chicane being on the entry . Perhaps Kpy or T54 can help ?

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 04:15

If you have a look at the facts and figures page on my site, you will see the map of the circuit from 1971. Looks to be at the entry, rather than the corner exit.
I cant wait to go, it will be fantastic:) Ill remember to scrape the moss off:) Do any of you know a good place to stay nearby?

#136 LittleChris

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 20:37

Gareth,

The 1971 map was what I was looking at.

It seems to show continuation of the original entry to Gresil then 2/3rds way round the track turns sharp left then right forming a chicane onto the straight to Scierie. In reality the left hand bank at Gresil remains unbroken all the way round to the point at which it joins the N138 which was why I questioned the map

I thought from the road markings at the entry to Greail (sadly this area has been resurfaced in the last couple of years so they no longer exist ) that the cars carried straight on adjacent to the entry to Gresil for about 30 metres, then turned sharp right then immediately left to rejoin the original track.

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 20:46

You may well be right. I will see what I can find from my research.

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 21:14

I've never seen any pictures of the Gresil chicane hence my interest.

The one at Paradis always seemed to be referred to as having been at Scierie but it's only recently that I've seen footage ( Fornula 2 Heroes DVD ) & pictures proving it was situated at the junction of the original circuit and the start finish straight, ie just after the kink at Paradis

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 01:21

It wouldnt have made sense to have it at Scierie....Paradis was a high-speed kink so slowing the cars down there is more practical.

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#140 LittleChris

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Posted 02 August 2006 - 21:46

Exactly my thoughts regarding the Paradis chicane, although I think it was actually situated a little way after the kink so they'd probably have been on the brakes through the kink itself

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 09:46

Its been a while, but the site is being regularly updated again! Recently 1965, 67, 69 and 78 pages went up and 1970 is ready to go up next. Go and have a look! :clap:
http://8w.forix.com/rouen.html :wave:

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 20:40

Very good additions Gareth, although in the recent update of 65-67 I'm a bit dubious about Giorgio Francia having what sounds like the same accident at the same place in 1967 as he was to have in 1975 !! I think it was in practice for the 1975 race that he ended up going over the barrier at the 2nd corner and giving the marshalls a bit of a fright. IIRC there are a couple of pictures in the edition of Motoring News covering that years race, but my copy is long gone .

cheers

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 21:19

Good to the site progressing Gareth - very well done :up:

Please keep us posted!

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:13

Originally posted by lil'chris
Very good additions Gareth, although in the recent update of 65-67 I'm a bit dubious about Giorgio Francia having what sounds like the same accident at the same place in 1967 as he was to have in 1975 !! I think it was in practice for the 1975 race that he ended up going over the barrier at the 2nd corner and giving the marshalls a bit of a fright. IIRC there are a couple of pictures in the edition of Motoring News covering that years race, but my copy is long gone .

cheers

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A good point, well made:) It must have been another driver, his name isn't mentioned in the articles I have. I will adjust that....
1971 goes up today if Mattijs can find the time:)

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:17

:( I am so sorry to be the guy who commentated the last race during the last meeting in Rouen-Les-Essart. I think, it was in 1993 or 1994. It was a Clio Cup race. I dont have any picture of this event.

I am also the guy who commentated the last single seater race on Monthlery track ! (it was French Formula Ford Championship).

I hope that i wont be the last guy to post on this forum ! :D

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:25

i cant remember which year it was (92 or 93) but Alexandre Janoray had a big crash in the straight during the french F3 championship race. I have to do some research in my brain ! :confused:

:clap: It was in 1993 ! so it was the last meeting !

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:34

Originally posted by AMICALEMANS
:( I am so sorry to be the guy who commentated the last race during the last meeting in Rouen-Les-Essart. I think, it was in 1993 or 1994. It was a Clio Cup race. I dont have any picture of this event.

I am also the guy who commentated the last single seater race on Monthlery track ! (it was French Formula Ford Championship).

I hope that i wont be the last guy to post on this forum ! :D

Wow! I am sure you wont be the last on this forum:) I would love your recollections of Rouen for my website though, can you help?:)

#148 AMICALEMANS

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 07:57

I lost all my files with may old computer...
But for 1993, the last race was a French F3 championship event.
During this event, i remember that races was !
F3
Formula Ford
Formula Renault
Posrche Cup
Clio Cup (2 races)
and maybe Alfa Romeo or Supertourisme.
I have to find results on the web to refresh may memory.

At rouen, there was 2 places for 2 speakers : one in the pits and one in the curve down the straitght. I was only the speaker for F Renault and Clio. And clio cup was the last race...
I will try to remember...

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 08:09

I found that on the web
http://motolesessarts.site.voila.fr/

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 08:21

Thanks for that. I have used some info off the motolesessarts site for my site, with the author's permission of course:)
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