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All JACKs of one trade....

Started by Jack-the-Lad , May 24 2006 02:13

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#1 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:13

Stewart
Villeneuve
Oliver
Brabham
Fairman
Laffite
Ickx

Silly, I know,

but there must be a few more........

#2 David Hyland

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:37

O'Malley ;)

#3 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 03:04

Originally posted by David Hyland
O'Malley ;)

#4 EDWARD FITZGERALD

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:31

Nellman .

#5 petefenelon

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:48

Lewis.

#6 ian senior

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:49

Originally posted by petefenelon
Lewis.

Jack of two trades. A good farmer too, by all accounts.

#7 David Hyland

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:00

Pollet (who(m?) I remembered all by myself)

and

Pretorius (of whom I was reminded whilst confirming Pollet on Richie Jenkins' Where Are They Now site. [Yes, I realise that's cheating])

#8 Terry Walker

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:29

Surely some of those Jacks were Johns...or Jeans...

We had a local champ who really was a Jack: proper name, Jack Aubrey Nelson. Even his club and his competitors often thought he was a John.

#9 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:44

Originally posted by ian senior

Jack of two trades. A good farmer too, by all accounts.

Sears - also a good farmer.

#10 David McKinney

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 12:56

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Sears - also a good farmer.

And also another of Terry's non-John Jacks, IIRC

#11 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 13:18

Originally posted by David McKinney

And also another of Terry's non-John Jacks, IIRC

It's OK...the name they're most known by will do. Can't believe I forgot Lewis and Sears.

By the way, in my own case, Jack is my given name...

#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 13:23

Saywell...

#13 ian senior

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 13:24

I wasn't going to include Jack Sears as I thought we were sticking to F1 drivers only - not that it matters.

So add Coulon.

#14 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 13:29

Originally posted by ian senior
I wasn't going to include Jack Sears as I thought we were sticking to F1 drivers only - not that it matters.

So add Coulon.

Jack Sears did test an F1 car though, does this count? He told me he had a run in a Cooper in 1958 or '59. Yeoman Credit IIRC?

#15 Ren� de Boer

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 14:09

van der Ende

After winning the 1997 Formula Ford Festival at Brands Hatch, he was promised a test drive with the Stewart Ford SF1. Unfortunately, this never happened.

#16 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 14:44

Swaters
Villeneuve Sr.

Damn, I can't use my own site to cheat :lol:

Emm.. State-side:

Foley
Buxton
Tower
Ensley

#17 David McKinney

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 14:53

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson

Jack Sears did test an F1 car though, does this count? He told me he had a run in a Cooper in 1958 or '59. Yeoman Credit IIRC?

He raced an F2 Cooper-Climax for Yeoman Credit in 1960 - only once, from memory, but did very well

#18 KJJ

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 15:12

But if someone mentioned Jack Stewart you wouldn't think of JYS, anymore than Jim Hunt would conjour up another ex-world champion. So I don't think that should count. Should every John, Jacques and Jackie be included in this list of Jacks? Jackie Bolster sounds quite good though

#19 Sharman

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 16:05

Fraid you've boobooed, the Jacques Francaises are really Jims

#20 barrykm

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 17:08

...Pretorius...

#21 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 23:25

Originally posted by KJJ
But if someone mentioned Jack Stewart you wouldn't think of JYS, anymore than Jim Hunt would conjour up another ex-world champion. So I don't think that should count. Should every John, Jacques and Jackie be included in this list of Jacks? Jackie Bolster sounds quite good though

As the party guilty of starting this thread I have deemed Jack and all of its derivatives and translations as qualified....

Jack (etc.)

#22 Mallory Dan

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 12:29

Originally posted by David McKinney

And also another of Terry's non-John Jacks, IIRC

Terry Jacks???... "Seasons in the Sun"

#23 ian senior

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 13:03

Originally posted by Mallory Dan

Terry Jacks???... "Seasons in the Sun"

I was hoping no-one would mention that (one of the nastiest songs of all time, to my mind) , unless someone can confirm my recollection of a British club racing driver of the same name. In the 70s, I think.

#24 Graham Gauld

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 15:05

David,

Reference Jack Sears he drove the F2 Cooper-Climax for Yeoman Credit twice, once at Crystal Palace finishing 3rd and once in the Vanwall Trophy at Snetterton on August 6 where he retired with ignition trouble. Ken Gregory offered him a full time drive but as he had a young family at the time he declined to take up the drive. The only other single seater racing car he ever drove was Nobby Spero's Maserati in a historic race before historic racing became popular

#25 David McKinney

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 15:44

It was the Crystal Palace one I remembered - forgot about the Vanwall Trophy
(And didn't want to upstage any book that might be in the pipeline :lol:

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#26 Graham Gauld

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 16:08

David

Darn you David, you have let the cat out of the bag !!!!!! Thanks for the plug.....at the moment 30,000 words into it.

#27 Andretti Fan

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 12:25

Rabbitt? He had some memorable battles against that french driver T. Ortise. :lol:

#28 ian senior

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 13:01

Originally posted by Andretti Fan
Rabbitt? He had some memorable battles against that french driver T. Ortise.

I thought Ortoise raced against Hareton Senna.

#29 f1steveuk

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 17:23

pneumatic??

#30 philippe7

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 16:18

Originally posted by Sharman
' Fraid you've boobooed, the Jacques Francaises are really Jims

Absolutely.......Jacques translates to James, I've alway been told....

#31 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 16:51

and Hans means Jack so
we have Stuck sen.; Stuck jr.; Herrmann; and ....

#32 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 17:25

So, Jacques is James and Hans is Jack....well waddaya know!

Jack

#33 macoran

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 17:36

Originally posted by Hugo Boecker
and Hans means Jack so
we have Stuck sen.; Stuck jr.; Herrmann; and ....

can't agree on that
Hans comes from Johannes in Holland, don't see why it would be different in Germany
so for me Hans is more a John than a Jack

#34 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 18:14

Originally posted by macoran

can't agree on that
Hans comes from Johannes in Holland, don't see why it would be different in Germany
so for me Hans is more a John than a Jack

I believe I've seen the name "Hanschen." Is that a diminuitive of Hans?

Jack

#35 David McKinney

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 18:42

Originally posted by macoran

can't agree on that
Hans comes from Johannes in Holland, don't see why it would be different in Germany
so for me Hans is more a John than a Jack

But Jack is a diminutive of John (exactly as Hans is a diminutive of Johannes

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#36 philippe7

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 18:44

Hans is Jean in french, so John ( apparently ? ) in english....( city Saint Jean de Terre Neuve is Saint John of Newfoundland afaik...)....but Jack is a nickname for John , so as Hugo says Hans is eventually Jack....but not Jacques

So maybe Johan ( Johannes ? ) is John too ?

What are the 12 apostles called in english, anyway ?

Joakim ( swedish) is Joachim ( in french ) so "Jo" in anglais ( for Bonnier ) ? but Jo is also used for Joseph ( Siffert )....so ?

...oh well....

#37 f1steveuk

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 19:38

Originally posted by philippe7
Hans is Jean in french, so John ( apparently ? ) in english....( city Saint Jean de Terre Neuve is Saint John of Newfoundland afaik...)....but Jack is a nickname for John , so as Hugo says Hans is eventually Jack....but not Jacques

So maybe Johan ( Johannes ? ) is John too ?

What are the 12 apostles called in english, anyway ?

Joakim ( swedish) is Joachim ( in french ) so "Jo" in anglais ( for Bonnier ) ? but Jo is also used for Joseph ( Siffert )....so ?

...oh well....

the X is silent, as in wheelbarrow :blush: