1993 F1 numbers allocation
#1
Posted 17 June 2006 - 08:45
1992:
McLaren - 1 and 2
Williams - 5 and 6
Benetton - 19 and 20
1993:
Williams - 0 and 2
Benetton - 5 and 6 (should remain 19 and 20 according to allocation system used then)
McLaren - 7 and 8 (should be 5 and 6 taken from Williams after loosing championship)
#3
Posted 17 June 2006 - 14:15
I know a lot of people who remember Senna's years with great nostalgia.
My favourite period is from 1894 to 1955. So what? Is it reason to doubt everyone who asks later periods questions?
#4
Posted 17 June 2006 - 17:32
David
#5
Posted 17 June 2006 - 20:39
#6
Posted 17 June 2006 - 21:40
That was 1996.Originally posted by ensign14
That was the year they changed it to Constructors' Championship order.
Here's my theory, and keep in mind it's only a theory. Brabham went out of business during 1992, leaving their coveted single-digit numbers unused. Being a top team without the traditions of Ligier or Ferrari, Benetton probably wanted to move up the list. Perhaps the same sense of tradition that kept Ligier and Ferrari where they were also meant that McLaren felt the urge to recapture the numbers 7 and 8 that they had used for so many years in the late '70s and through much of the '80s.
#7
Posted 17 June 2006 - 21:52
Originally posted by Vicuna
Does 1993 qualify for nostalgia already? :
Considering two of those racers that year are dead, one is without legs, and the majority of them are now aged between 45 & 55, I'd say, yes.
What an intriguing little question. I had a look at all my 1993 material but couldn't find a answer. Rob's theory seems a correct one, IMO. I always remember McLaren as 7 & 8 when they weren't, of course, 1 & 2.
#8
Posted 17 June 2006 - 22:00
Sorry - my bad.Originally posted by Rob G
That was 1996.
Here's my theory, and keep in mind it's only a theory. Brabham went out of business during 1992, leaving their coveted single-digit numbers unused. Being a top team without the traditions of Ligier or Ferrari, Benetton probably wanted to move up the list. Perhaps the same sense of tradition that kept Ligier and Ferrari where they were also meant that McLaren felt the urge to recapture the numbers 7 and 8 that they had used for so many years in the late '70s and through much of the '80s.
That sort of thing had happened before - after March went bust in the late 70s ATS moved from the 34-35 slot to 9 and 10. In 1984 Spirit moved from 40 to 21, Arrows came down from 29-30 to 17-18, Toleman from 35-36 to 19-20 and Osella from 31 to 24 to fill in gaps left by March, Fittipaldi and (anciently) Merzario, and RAM took over 9 and 10 from ATS who were fielding one car and therefore could slot in at 14 after being left vacant following Ensign's merger with Theodore.
#9
Posted 17 June 2006 - 22:22
Originally posted by Rob G
McLaren felt the urge to recapture the numbers 7 and 8 that they had used for so many years in the late '70s and through much of the '80s.
I very much doubt that; the only numbers that matter to Ron are 1 and 2!
#10
Posted 17 June 2006 - 23:14
Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Considering two of those racers that year are dead, one is without legs, and the majority of them are now aged between 45 & 55, I'd say, yes.
What an intriguing little question. I had a look at all my 1993 material but couldn't find a answer. Rob's theory seems a correct one, IMO. I always remember McLaren as 7 & 8 when they weren't, of course, 1 & 2.
I wasn't actually being serious..
#11
Posted 18 June 2006 - 01:12
#12
Posted 18 June 2006 - 01:23
#13
Posted 18 June 2006 - 03:48
Originally posted by Rob G
Perhaps the same sense of tradition that kept Ligier and Ferrari where they were also meant that McLaren felt the urge to recapture the numbers 7 and 8 that they had used for so many years in the late '70s and through much of the '80s.
Like Richie, I had a look through all my 1993 material but also couldn't find any conclusive evidence. (All the "number talk" was about Damon Hill having the number 0). Having said that, my initial thought/recollection upon seeing this thread was that McLaren had chosen/been allocated 7 and 8 because they were the numbers they had used from '78 to '83. (Of course it's fairly dodgy reasoning - they also used 5 and 6 for much of the early '70s). Maybe Ron had a whole pile of Marlboro red/orange 7 and 8 decals in a cupboard he wanted to use up?Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
What an intriguing little question. I had a look at all my 1993 material but couldn't find a answer. Rob's theory seems a correct one, IMO. I always remember McLaren as 7 & 8 when they weren't, of course, 1 & 2.
#14
Posted 18 June 2006 - 23:45
#15
Posted 19 June 2006 - 00:57
[B]Does 1993 qualify for nostalgia already? : : NOSTALGIA, for myself and many others in this CITY are the years 1985 to 1995 when the F1 GP was held in ADELAIDE......
#16
Posted 19 June 2006 - 11:49
Originally posted by Vicuna
Does 1993 qualify for nostalgia already?
For me, the years when Toleman / Benetton ran numbers 19 and 20 generate plenty of nostalgia; as do the 1990s, really. Perhaps it depends on your age at the time - although I emphasise this is not meant as a judgement on the ages of any of you to have posted above this....