Any Jack Hinkle pictures or stories out there?
#101
Posted 06 February 2009 - 01:06
ZOOOM
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#102
Posted 06 February 2009 - 02:17
I was working in San Diego in the mid-eighties (at a shop that has long since closed) where we had a tube framed Chevy Special with a fiberglass body that was a mold taken from a 300s.
Not too interesting I'll admit but... the front suspension complete with chassis number was from one of Hinkle's Birdcages. Story was, that the car was built by a Texan known as "Big" Jim Hall. He got the "Big" nickname because of a young upstart from Midland who had the same name. Hall claimed that the Hinkle Birdcage was burned in a fire but he might have been confused by the similar fate of Hinkle's BT8. Still, it doesn't explain how the front of the car got to Houston.
#103
Posted 06 February 2009 - 11:57
"And the car as it exists today is in post # 91...." ZOOOM
I thought so, but with this crew keeping an eye out for any little slip... No way in hell I'm making that leap of faith or using basic common sense. I'll let you guys that actually know something make the call. That's about all you can expect from such a dumbass as myself. To quote Sgt. Schultz... "I know nothing!"
Brian
#104
Posted 19 March 2009 - 00:49
#105
Posted 25 April 2011 - 08:47
Jack's Lola T-165 was at the Road America historics back in the 80s driven by some fellow (can't remember the first name) named Nero. It still had the same replacement rear deck on it that was installed after Jack backed into the guard rail in the 1977 June Sprints. Hinkle ran the T-165 from 1970 through 1979. Don't know about the T-160 that he had in 1969.
Tom
"Backed up into the guard rail"
He launched the car off the entrance/escape road before the last turn and it spun in the air and landed backwards into a guard rail
#106
Posted 25 April 2011 - 15:45
well, I guess my description is technically accurate, if less descriptive and colorful!
Reminds me of the constant understatement of Indy Car box scores, when so-and-so demolishes his car in a spectacular wreck and the official reason for retirement is "contact".
Tom
#107
Posted 04 December 2011 - 16:08
Grand Prix of Gibraltar one would assume?Originally equipped with a 2.7L Coventry Climax FPF that had been used in Grand Prix racing in Europe,
#108
Posted 03 April 2020 - 14:38
Jack Hinkle in his Brabham BT 8
photo Philippe de Lespinay collection
#109
Posted 03 April 2020 - 14:45
Jack McGrath in the Hinkle Special and his buddy Bill Vukovich
Indy 1955 for the lead.
Rex Dean collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 05 April 2020 - 00:42.
#110
Posted 03 April 2020 - 14:51
#111
Posted 03 April 2020 - 15:00
Jack Hinkles Cooper in 1968 now run by Gary Grove
Collombin: Rex Dean who had a site on the Vukovich accident for years, asked me did I think McGrath let him by without a fight hoping he would run too hard and break. I think he let him by so he wouldn't get crashed out.
photo : Chuck Brandt collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 05 April 2020 - 07:13.
#112
Posted 03 April 2020 - 15:20
Jerry,
Thanks for resurrecting this thread and all of your other contributions. Here is my Jack Hinkle story which includes his friend, Tracy Bird.
Dad and I were members of the Pan American Region's (SCCA) flagging and communications team in the 1960s. Being in southern New Mexico, we had the opportunity to work some "obscure" races. Unfortunately I do not have entry lists or results sheets, only some photos and my "crs" memory. We didn't have much time to stroll the pits because we spent most of our weekends out working corners so I don't have much close up detail of the cars.
Tracy Bird drove the ex-Jack Hinkle Tipo 61 Birdcage at Deming, NM in 1964 wearing Bird's usual #9. Bird was at Deming in 1963 in a white Maserati 200S which for some reason I thought was also an ex-Hinkle car, but previous posts say I'm wrong. I guess it Bird's subsequent history of owning Jack Hinkle's older race cars that made me think that. Anyhow, the car was running in DM which was doesn't jive with the 200S.
The first time I saw Jack Hinkle was at Tucson, AZ in March, 1965 in his BT8 Brabham. Tracy Bird was entered in his ex-Hinkle Cooper Monaco fitted with the Ferrari V-12. It was looking like Sunday's modified race would be exciting as there was a blue Cheetah entered as well. The Cheetah practiced on Saturday, but did not show up on Sunday. The story we were told was that the team's tow vehicle had been broken into on Saturday night and the tools stolen. I dont know who the driver was, do you? Hinkle and Bird dns'd and the modified race was won by Pete V. in the Townsend Special.
The PanAm region organized an even more obscure race on an airport course at Las Cruces, New Mexico in September, 1965. Tracy Bird was entered in his ex-Hinkle Cooper, again carrying Bird's usual #9, this time against a shamrock background. I mention this because someone has posted that the car always ran with #91; not so. Bird dnf'd after 5 laps.
The second, and final, time I saw Jack Hinkle was at an SCCA national at Texas World Speedway in College Station, Texas some time around 1980 (photos with no date on the back!) This time it was his Lola T165. Awesome.
One final note. I recognize a couple of cars in the photo of Hinkle's BT8 in post #108. Al Goldman's Cobra #74 and Dave Dooley's E-type #41. They also came down to our next of the woods to race.
Regards,
Mark S.
#113
Posted 03 April 2020 - 15:34
Stillwater, Oklahoma, September 1957. Jack Hinkle in his feature winning Maserati 300S, chassis 2426.
Mark S : Thanks for your story. I brought this thread back because my friend Gary Knutson wanted to see the Hinkle pictures.
And it is going to get way better
.I had the only Blue Cheetah on the westcoast in 1965. I remember going to Tuscon that year. I don't remember what happened to the Cheetah, that I couldn't run it. I did try and run my friend Harvey Lasiter's Corvette Sting Ray as a C/M. When I took it out all the gauges pegged so I didn't make the race. You have a better memory then me. I will be 78 on the 9th,so that is kind of an excuse.
I was there in 1964 with Ol Yeller 2 and Jack Hinkle was there with his Cooper Monaco and Chet Johnson was helping him..
I ran the Cheetah at Phoenix after it was used in the Elvis movie Spinout. they had painted it red for the movie and I ran it red at Phoenix. That was in 1966 though.
In 1967 I brought my McLaren to Tuscon and raced Jack Hinkle in his Porsche 906.
Photo: Bob Jackson [from Sports Car Racing in the South, 1957-1958]
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 08:40.
#114
Posted 03 April 2020 - 16:03
#115
Posted 03 April 2020 - 17:41
Jack Hinkle's Kurtis 500X
This is the restored version of the car.
Icbulldog,
That white Maserati 200S that you noticed at Deming in 1963, raced by Tracy Bird, was actually a former Hap Sharp car.
It started life as a Maserati 250S and Hap only had problems with the 2.5-liter engine, so he installed a 3-liter Ferrari Monza unit. The car was chassis 2432 and Hap sold it to Tracy in late 1959.
All research: Willem Oosthoek
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 01:23.
#116
Posted 03 April 2020 - 18:55
Jerry,
Thanks for clearing up the reason behind Bird's 200S running in class DM and not EM. That also explains why Martin shows Bird driving a Maserati-Monza on the racingsportscars website. This has been racking my brain for a few days now.
My photos are mostly in B&W and taken with a Brownie camera suitable mostly for backyard shots, so I have to go by my 71+ year old memory. That's what I recall being told about the Tucson Cheetah.
Happy upcoming birthday!
Mark
#117
Posted 03 April 2020 - 21:57
Jerry, I scanned and enlarged my photo of the Cheetah and could make out the number 36. Titus raced a Cheetah #36 at Willow Springs one month earlier, may be it was him. And maybe it wasn't blue. I claim crs.
#118
Posted 03 April 2020 - 23:04
Jerry Entin in Cheetah at Santa Barbara in 1965
I didn't remember being at Tuscon with my Cheetah. My car was the ex Jerry Titus driven car. it was owned by a fellow named John Grow , he owned a Chevy dealership in the town of Rialto, California.
I never ran as number 36 though. When I bought the car it had a blown engine in it. That probably happened at Tuscon.
photo: Mike Schwartz
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 01:20.
#119
Posted 04 April 2020 - 14:47
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 18:43.
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#120
Posted 04 April 2020 - 14:56
Before I get black flagged for being too far off topic, we did see Jack Hinkle in his Birdcage at Tucson in December, 1961. We watched the races standing behind the "snow" fencing. Those were the days. Hap Sharp won the modified race in his Cooper Monaco Maserati with 2500 cc engine according to racingsportscars.com. Could this engine be the one Sharp took out of the 250S?
One more Cheetah comment. The one in my photo looks to have the same rear fender flares as yours. I wish it was easier to post photos or I would give it a try.
Edited by lcbulldog, 04 April 2020 - 15:28.
#121
Posted 04 April 2020 - 15:03
Here is what you could buy a kurtis Chassis for in the day.
#122
Posted 04 April 2020 - 16:00
Tracy Bird in his ex Hap Sharp Maserati this is from 1963 Deming New Mexico
Jerry Titus in the Friendly Chevrolet Cheetah this is from 1965 in Tuscon
This was considered the factory Racer.
photos: Mark S
Edited by Jerry Entin, 05 April 2020 - 00:31.
#123
Posted 04 April 2020 - 16:12
Very nice story on Jack Hinkle by the Great Joe Scalzo
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 19:51.
#124
Posted 04 April 2020 - 16:15
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 20:16.
#125
Posted 04 April 2020 - 17:57
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 20:33.
#126
Posted 04 April 2020 - 17:58
Hope you enjoyed reading about Jack Hinkle by Joe Scalzo.
Edited by Jerry Entin, 04 April 2020 - 20:39.
#127
Posted 04 April 2020 - 22:10
Jack Hinkle in his Maserati 200 SI
Jeri Hinkle collection
#128
Posted 05 April 2020 - 00:18
Jack Hinkle's Lola T165 at Texas World in the 80's.
photo Mark S
Edited by Jerry Entin, 05 April 2020 - 00:18.
#129
Posted 05 April 2020 - 00:24
Tracy Bird in the ex Jack Hinkle Cooper Monaco with a Ferrari engine in it.
This was a regional race and the entry fee was $15.
This was at Las Cruces, New Mexico in Sept 1965
photo: Mark S
Edited by Jerry Entin, 15 April 2020 - 02:10.
#130
Posted 05 April 2020 - 00:33
Tracy Bird in the ex Jack Hinkle Birdcage Maserati
This was at Deming, New Mexico in 1964, and Tracy is giving rides.
photo Mark S
#131
Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:26
Jack Hinkle's Lola T 165 in the pits Chet Johnson and his red beret sitting in chair
photo: Mark S
Edited by Jerry Entin, 06 April 2020 - 10:27.
#132
Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:29
Jack McGrath with some of the other Indy drivers wives.
photo Jeri Hinkle collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 06 April 2020 - 11:44.
#133
Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:52
Edit - and Alice Hanks (the hairstyle confused me at first!) between Mrs Vukovich and Mrs Daywalt?
And Mrs Duane Carter for the full house.
Edited by Collombin, 06 April 2020 - 10:59.
#134
Posted 06 April 2020 - 14:55
Pay day in 1954 Jack McGrath accepting 3rd place monies from Wilbur Shaw
Wilbur Shaw was the President of Indy Motor Speedway and himself had won the race in 1937 and 1939 and 1940.
He was tragically killed in a plane crash on October 30, 1954.
photo IMS photo
Edited by Jerry Entin, 06 April 2020 - 15:00.
#135
Posted 06 April 2020 - 15:14
This is after June 1977, judging by the back of the car. Hinkle had backed his T-165 into a guard rail at Road America in the 1977 June Sprints while chasing Jerry Hansen. The wrecked rear bodywork was replaced by this. Not original, but well done.
Jack Hinkle's Lola T 165 in the pits Chet Johnson and his red beret sitting in chair
photo: Mark S
Edited by RA Historian, 07 April 2020 - 16:19.
#136
Posted 07 April 2020 - 15:58
Jack Hinkle in his Lola T165 at Lake Afton event
This turn was called Clubhouse.
Jack Hink;e at Lake Afton
photos: Kyle Shepard collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 07 April 2020 - 16:17.
#137
Posted 15 April 2020 - 00:49
Jack Hinkle and his Kurtis/Offy 500X at Eagle Mountain in 1956.
photo :Jeri Hinkle collection
all research: Willem Oosthoek
Edited by Jerry Entin, 15 April 2020 - 00:54.
#138
Posted 15 April 2020 - 01:52
Jack Hinkle and his Birdcage Maserati
The year is 1962 [based on Hinkle’s race number]. It is his second Birdcage, chassis 2470. Where? Based on the background, I would say Tucson in April 1962.
all research: Willem Oosthoek
photo: Jeri Hinkle collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 15 April 2020 - 15:06.
#139
Posted 15 April 2020 - 02:09
Jack and Lois McGrath in 1953
photo IMS
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#140
Posted 21 April 2020 - 19:26
Jack McGrath sitting in the back of the Garage at Indy
This area was called Gasoline Alley.
photo: Jeri Hinkle collection
#141
Posted 21 April 2020 - 19:37
Jack McGrath in 1949
photo: Jeri Hinkle collection
#142
Posted 22 April 2020 - 01:09
Jack McGrath in the Hinkle Special on the front row.
photo: Jeri Hinkle collection
Edited by Jerry Entin, 22 April 2020 - 01:10.
#143
Posted 22 April 2020 - 04:19
Back in the day when you had to make a genuine effort to get detailed information of racing cars and drivers, I thought Jack Hinkle was just an old dude who should make an effort to show how good he was, as he had the number of a certain Minn. hot-shot.
After reading this thread, I see there was a LOT more to him than I ever expected; yes I did read that one article posted so many years ago, which is one reason I wish he had tried harder.
Edited by Bob Riebe, 22 April 2020 - 04:20.
#144
Posted 22 April 2020 - 21:31
Jack McGrath in the Hinkle Special on the front row.
photo: Jeri Hinkle collection
The front row for the 1951 500-mile race, photographed in front of the old pagoda: Jack McGrath in the Hinkel=Kurtis/Offy, eventual winner Lee Wallard in the Belanger=Meyer-Drake/Offy and pole sitter Duke Nalon in the Novi/Winfield.
#145
Posted 22 April 2020 - 22:04
#146
Posted 24 April 2020 - 23:17
Back in the day when you had to make a genuine effort to get detailed information of racing cars and drivers, I thought Jack Hinkle was just an old dude who should make an effort to show how good he was, as he had the number of a certain Minn. hot-shot.
After reading this thread, I see there was a LOT more to him than I ever expected; yes I did read that one article posted so many years ago, which is one reason I wish he had tried harder.
Which was why ASR at the June Sprints was not to be missed.
#147
Posted 24 April 2020 - 23:28
Pretty sure I never missed one over the entire life of that class. Ol' Jack sure had a lotta motor!!!
Oops, wait... after '81, I only caught '85. So brand me Mr. Fibs.
(Edit: Bob, thanks for keeping that reference vague. Owe you one)
Edited by E1pix, 24 April 2020 - 23:29.
#148
Posted 25 April 2020 - 15:25
Which was why ASR at the June Sprints was not to be missed.
Hinkle and Hansen raced against each other in the June Sprints from 1969-79. Hansen won in 1969, 1971, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, and 1979. Hinkle won in 1970 and 1973. Hinkle was not a fan of racing in the rain, and he sat out the 1974 Sprints, which was very wet. Hinkle used a Lola T-160 in 1969, and for the next ten years a Lola T-165. He ran the big block Chevrolet engine in the T-165 until the SCCA capped the class at five liters in 1979. Hinkle put a small block Chev in the T-165 but as you can imagine, it was a bit of a slug compared to the T-333CS that Hansen was using at that time. In 1980 Hinkle got rid of the T-165 and ran a Sports 2000 Lola T-590. His competitive days were over with that move. No more competing for overall wins, but I imagine he was still having fun, which was the whole point, after all.
Tom
#149
Posted 26 April 2020 - 15:58
As much as I loved A/SR at the Sprints then, I realized by about 1972 that as races go, they were a bit staged "for the fans." No disrespect to Jack here at all, he was extremely good at his age and incredibly brave, but could not make up for two decades' age disparity nor match the roofless budget of the swindling stock scammer he raced against. Nobody could, on either count -- nor ever did, beyond Randolph Townsend who needed a Porsche 917/10K to even get close (and Steve Durst to a similar degree in 1972).
I was nine for the '70 Sprints, so sans my reference files wonder about the circumstances allowing Jack to win that one. His nemesis ran B/SR in 1973 in a Lola T292, so no match race available there.
Regardless, I really enjoyed and respected Jack's efforts. He and Chet were longtime fixtures at Road America and gave us all a lot of good memories.
#150
Posted 27 April 2020 - 22:45
I saw a reference to Hinkle being a DNS at a Runoffs in the '70s recently, but have no recollection of him ever racing in one. Do you know if he ever did, Tom?
The SCCA Runoffs data base shows zero entries for Hinkle.
Tom