Originally posted by as65p
Then you should probably adress a person which this concerns, not just randomly jump on the first poster who disagrees with your anti-Briatore / anti-Alonso tirades.
Well, it was you who jumped into the conversation, clearly viewing the post as an "anti-Alonso tirade" - which it was not. It was you who drew the comparison to Kovalainen and then denied that any comparison with Kovalainen was necessary (after I had answered that particular point) and then reverted to the "Alonso destroyed Fisi at Renault, and Fisi didn't have secondary treatment and it's false to claim so" argument. This is, as I have said, all about agrandising Alonso, ignoring his weaknesses.
Originally posted by as65p
In our "conversation" you just plucked some topics (which obviously are of great concern to you) out of thin air and got pretty excited about it. The only problem is that your arguments had nothing to do with my posts, just with your assumptions what I might think and what I could have written.
But you've even stated here that you responded to what you perceived to be an "anti-Alonso tirade". So, to try and claim that what you are driving at is not what I have said is clear, whilst telling me that the reason that you've entered the "conversation" is to do exactly what I have said you are doing...... make your mind up. What is it you were saying then?
Originally posted by as65p
Is it really that hard to stick to particular arguments in particular threads instead of broadly attacking posters based on (often enough plain wrong) assumptions about their opinions?
See above, and then read back this post from yourself; "But sure, you know better than all of them, and if it wasn't for Flavio, Fisi would be a multiple champion by now...
You try really hard to reach HSJ-like delusional heights today. If that was indeed your intention: nice effort! "
Kettles, pots....that kind of thing. Despite that I have not said that, didn't you 'assume' that that is what I was saying?
Originally posted by as65p
You wrote "the true nature of what you are driving at is obvious"
Now that was at least funny - coming from you, one of the most "driven" on this board.
And how does this tie in with your last point? Hmmm...
And, perhaps you missed this; "I'm not a fan of any particular driver. And, while I see what faults Fisi has, he fared no where near as badly against Alonso (particularly in 2005) as slavering Alonso fans would have the world believe.
I should mention, btw, that I love Alonso on-track. I think he is a very exciting racer. But, I can't stand all this fanaticism and the blindness caused by it. "
So, what is it I'm "driven" by, or perhaps to?
I'm not a fan of any particular driver. And, while I see what faults Fisi has, he fared no where near as badly against Alonso (particularly in 2005) as slavering Alonso fans would have the world believe.
Originally posted by as65p
You might not be a fan of any driver, but is seems your dislike for some is just as strong, and it leads to the same symptoms: biased and highly opinionated tirades as in your post #56 in this thread. So after one free practice you've already decided that Piquet is getting screwed by Renault. On second thought, does that still sound like a reasonable claim to you?
Again, I refer you to my last response. As for my "claim" that Piquet is "being screwed by Renault"......funny, but I don't remember making that claim.
Originally posted by as65p
Anyone who has watched for more than half a season would be able to detect the reason Fisi was no.2 at Renault: while he can be brilliant on occassion, he has never shown the mental strength and determination to lead a top team. His best moments have always been where nobody expected much of him; as soon as he feels the pressure he tends to fade. It hasn't even much to do with Alonso, put him against any other WDC-calibre driver in a front-running team and it would develope exactly the same. In such a situation he would always look like a no.2, just as Barrichello. It doesn't take Briatore's supposed Alonso-bias (which, BTW, he would drop in a millisecond as soon as another of his drivers becomes a better prospect) to make that happen.
Anyone who has listened to Flavio for any length of time for the past couple of seasons, who has witnessed Alonso's reaction to being beaten by his teammate (and Pat Symonds has said some interesting things on this topic), anyone who understands that Briatore not only personally managed Alonso, but that he owned the TV rights for F1 in Spain, can probably see a rather different picture emerge from the fog.....