i try to find out more about the swiss/australien driver KURT KELLER............
i found out so far that he started racing on motorbikes in switzerland . in the late 50´early
60´he moved together with jack forester to australia .
in 1964 kurt was NSW champion in a lotus 20.............
kurt came back to europe in 1966 together with barry collerson . kurt and barry did a lot
european FORMULA 3 races in there coopers......................
in 1967 kurt foundet the MERLYN RACING TEAM , teammembers were :
martin stephani --- dave walker --- kurt keller
barry drove a merlyn as well this year but not in this team ......................
after all that both went back to australia .
kurt foundet a company that rebuilds automatic gearboxes later he startet KURT KELLER MOTORS
in sydney . he was the agent for jensen healy...................
here a few photos :
www.fotos.web.de/rogerracing/KURT_KELLER
who can tell me more
Kurt Keller
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 10:00
From your photographs...
The one labelled 'Lotus 20' is in BP Bend at Oran Park.
The Brabham photo (labelled '1964) has Charlie Smith in his Elfin following, then Alan Felton. I think. I could be wrong on either or both counts, but most likely that's who they are. It's at Dunlop Corner at Catalina Park, directly below where the Katoomba Auto Chef used to be.
'1964 2' is again at Oran Park. Probably at speed down the main straight, obviously taken on a private practice day or something like that.
Do you have any idea when that cutting was taken from the newspaper? Racing motorcycles in the new subdivision at 'Florida Gardens' sounds like something that would have happened in the late fifties, maybe as late as 1961 or 1962, no later than that, surely? There were hillclimbs held in suburban streets in that area in the late fifties.
The views of the cars on trailers are clearly in Europe... gratifying to see the 404 in one shot, that's a fairly early 404 too. But what is that car behind the Morris 1100 in the other shot?
Thanks for showing us... let's see if we get some more info for you...
The one labelled 'Lotus 20' is in BP Bend at Oran Park.
The Brabham photo (labelled '1964) has Charlie Smith in his Elfin following, then Alan Felton. I think. I could be wrong on either or both counts, but most likely that's who they are. It's at Dunlop Corner at Catalina Park, directly below where the Katoomba Auto Chef used to be.
'1964 2' is again at Oran Park. Probably at speed down the main straight, obviously taken on a private practice day or something like that.
Do you have any idea when that cutting was taken from the newspaper? Racing motorcycles in the new subdivision at 'Florida Gardens' sounds like something that would have happened in the late fifties, maybe as late as 1961 or 1962, no later than that, surely? There were hillclimbs held in suburban streets in that area in the late fifties.
The views of the cars on trailers are clearly in Europe... gratifying to see the 404 in one shot, that's a fairly early 404 too. But what is that car behind the Morris 1100 in the other shot?
Thanks for showing us... let's see if we get some more info for you...
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 11:48
hello ray
thank you again for all the info´s .
i put a few more photos onto this page www.fotos.web.de/rogerracing/KURT_KELLER
in the dave walker historie i could read that kurt was the mechanic for dave in 1965.........
regards roger
thank you again for all the info´s .
i put a few more photos onto this page www.fotos.web.de/rogerracing/KURT_KELLER
in the dave walker historie i could read that kurt was the mechanic for dave in 1965.........
regards roger
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:06
Okay, Roger, I can identify these too...
The one with the inscription about the NSW Championship (what rubbish!) is entering Craven A Corner at Catalina Park.
The one you've entitled GP 1964 is also at Catalina Park exiting the 'Tunnel of Love'.
The Lotus 20 with the dam in the background is again Oran Park, BP Bend, I can't identify the other cars.
Two Warwick Farm pictures: The start appears to be Doug Chivas in the D-type Jag obscuring the car that's the focus of your attention, which appears in the other photo on its own down the start/finish straight at Warwick Farm.
I don't know who is in the second car at Avus, but that would be readily answered by some of the European experts on this forum.
The one with the inscription about the NSW Championship (what rubbish!) is entering Craven A Corner at Catalina Park.
The one you've entitled GP 1964 is also at Catalina Park exiting the 'Tunnel of Love'.
The Lotus 20 with the dam in the background is again Oran Park, BP Bend, I can't identify the other cars.
Two Warwick Farm pictures: The start appears to be Doug Chivas in the D-type Jag obscuring the car that's the focus of your attention, which appears in the other photo on its own down the start/finish straight at Warwick Farm.
I don't know who is in the second car at Avus, but that would be readily answered by some of the European experts on this forum.
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:18
hello ray
this are the photos as i get them.............
in the avus bent are kurt keller and dave walker both in a merlyn..................
regards roger
this are the photos as i get them.............
in the avus bent are kurt keller and dave walker both in a merlyn..................
regards roger
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:36
Where did you get the photos, Roger?
And can you name all the drivers who raced at Catalina Park and went on to race in European F3?
And can you name all the drivers who raced at Catalina Park and went on to race in European F3?
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:40
Can you name all the drivers who raced at Catalina and went on to race in F1?Originally posted by Ray Bell
Where did you get the photos, Roger?
And can you name all the drivers who raced at Catalina Park and went on to race in European F3?
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:52
hello ray --- hello catalina
i get the photos (and a few more) from robert keller , the brother of kurt . robert lives only
a few kilometer away in switzerland .
the only names i can remember at the moment are : tim cash , barry collerson , dave walker ,
kurt keller
all the 4 travelt in 1967 as formula 3 gypsys through europe , for tim of courese with a very bad
end......................
sorry for may bad english-
regards roger
i get the photos (and a few more) from robert keller , the brother of kurt . robert lives only
a few kilometer away in switzerland .
the only names i can remember at the moment are : tim cash , barry collerson , dave walker ,
kurt keller
all the 4 travelt in 1967 as formula 3 gypsys through europe , for tim of courese with a very bad
end......................
sorry for may bad english-
regards roger
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:53
Lotus Eleven or Fifteen?Originally posted by Ray Bell
Okay, Roger, I can identify these too...
...Two Warwick Farm pictures: The start appears to be Doug Chivas in the D-type Jag obscuring the car that's the focus of your attention, which appears in the other photo on its own down the start/finish straight at Warwick Farm....
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 12:54
Originally posted by Catalina Park
Can you name all the drivers who raced at Catalina and went on to race in F1?
Can only think of one, actually...
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:05
I can think of two.Originally posted by Ray Bell
Can only think of one, actually...
The F3 drivers that I can think of Barry Colleson, Dave Walker, Kurt Keller, Wal Donnelly and one more (I will answer when we work out the F1 drivers.)
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:15
later there was lary perkins , but i am sure , that this is not the name you like to hear .....
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:18
Originally posted by roger saretzki
later there was larry perkins, but i am sure, that this is not the name you like to hear .....
Why don't we like to hear about Larry?
Indeed, he is the one I thought of. But Dave Walker was another to make it to F1.
Mountain Man, when did Larry race at Catalina?
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:27
Larry raced at Catalina in about 72 in rallycross. It was a one off drive in the HDT Beast. (it was Larry that I was thinking of in the other post)
So now I am up to four that raced F1 and Catalina. Dave Walker, Larry Perkins and ??
It was a one off drive in the HDT Beast. (it was Larry that I was thinking of in the other post)So now I am up to four that raced F1 and Catalina.
Dave Walker, Larry Perkins and ??
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:30
Stretch the truth a little and you get Alex Macarthur...
Actually, you've rephrased that. 'Went on to race in F1' was the opening gambit, now it's 'raced F1 and Catalina'!
Talk about moving the goalposts!
Oh, yeah, you were right about Larry... rallycross in the HDT supercharged Torana. Which wasn't called 'the beast'. But it was a beast. Of this episode, Gus Staunton said, "I like Larry. Peter is quick and Larry is quick, but Peter doesn't make mistakes and Larry does!"
Actually, you've rephrased that. 'Went on to race in F1' was the opening gambit, now it's 'raced F1 and Catalina'!
Talk about moving the goalposts!
Oh, yeah, you were right about Larry... rallycross in the HDT supercharged Torana. Which wasn't called 'the beast'. But it was a beast. Of this episode, Gus Staunton said, "I like Larry. Peter is quick and Larry is quick, but Peter doesn't make mistakes and Larry does!"
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:37
We will set the goalposts at World Championship F1.
Didn't Larry tip the Torana on its lid?
Didn't Larry tip the Torana on its lid?
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 13:44
No, but I seem to recall that he got stuck in the mud or something...
Warwick Brown never raced at Catalina.
Warwick Brown never raced at Catalina.
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Posted 01 October 2006 - 17:44
what happend with larry , 1974 i think , at nürburgring in the amon ? or what happend with the
amon and larry in it ?
amon and larry in it ?
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...which prompts me to add Amon to the list of Catalina drivers who later did F1
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Looks to me like a Lotus 11 ,the oneraced by Ron Hodgson, Keith Wightley & Tom Sulman & now raced in historics by Gerry Lawson , but i could be wrong. 
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Good, that keeps it at four then.Originally posted by Ray Bell
Warwick Brown never raced at Catalina.
Dave Walker, Larry Perkins, Chris Amon and ? (thanks David!)
We can't count Arnold Glass but he should get an honourable mention.
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Oh, yeah... at the end of the Staunton quote, he added, "He's human."
Still wondering about this person who drove in F1... and was it after they raced at Catalina or not?
Still wondering about this person who drove in F1... and was it after they raced at Catalina or not?
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He raced at Catalina in 63 and raced in F1 in 65.Originally posted by Ray Bell
Oh, yeah... at the end of the Staunton quote, he added, "He's human."
Still wondering about this person who drove in F1... and was it after they raced at Catalina or not?
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Posted 02 October 2006 - 05:05
That's fine, yeah, I think he raced at Catalina in a D-type too...
And finished up against the fence there in his last appearance, a victim of a backmarker not seeing Cusack coming through after Geoghegan.
And finished up against the fence there in his last appearance, a victim of a backmarker not seeing Cusack coming through after Geoghegan.
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Posted 02 October 2006 - 05:48
Frank Gardner in formula 1
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Posted 02 October 2006 - 06:28
Good to see you posting, John...
What about some pictures then?
What about some pictures then?
