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[Madera]

Finally!!

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/74843

Now, give us a win.

Not only for your own good, but to shut up all the morons.

[BMW_F1]

wow.its been 4 years since his last pole.. Time really flies.
Spa 05.

[911]

It's been a long time coming, but I'm glad it's here. Go get'm tomorrow, JPM!

[SKL]

And I'm sure whatever oval he's on tomorrow is as much fun as Eau Rouge...

[Saint Devote]

Montoya turned against f1. Today he is bitter about it.

I doubt Montoya will ever be better than he is in NASCAR. The podgy midget win tomorrow against the good ole' boys? Unlikely auld sport.

He will probably crash out.

[LB]

Originally posted by SKL
And I'm sure whatever oval he's on tomorrow is as much fun as Eau Rouge...

No but its probably scarier.. Just watch the first laps and the last few if you can bare it and get an education.

Prime example of someone opening their mouth about something they know nothing about.

[Kooper]

Originally posted by LB


No but its probably scarier.. Just watch the first laps and the last few if you can bare it and get an education.

Prime example of someone opening their mouth about something they know nothing about.

yes, Rascasse seems ignorant of nascar, especially 'dega & its perils.

[whitewaterMkII]

Originally posted by Saint Devote
Montoya turned against f1. Today he is bitter about it.

I doubt Montoya will ever be better than he is in NASCAR. The podgy midget win tomorrow against the good ole' boys? Unlikely auld sport.

He will probably crash out.

What would you rather he have done, stick around and bleed it out like Coulthard has?
If you feel up to it, watch tomorrow and find out whether he wins or crashes.
Either way, Talladega is an amazing race, 190mph for hours and inches apart the entire race and Montoya has been in this game long enough now to find friends and trust in a drafting race.

[Slyder]

And whoever thinks that todays nationwide race wasn't exciting is a bloody liar!

[gt40jim]

Hi all, Having been blessed enough in life to have driven Formula Atlantics, FF1600's 8 lap records over the east coast, a pole at the Glen in a 427 Mkll Gt40 AND an ARCA car at Talladega. I can say that being in the pack at 180 mph with no real downforce on an undertired 3000 lb + car is every bit of a handful and hair raising as anything I have ever done! I have the utmost respect for that place. Don't diss what ya ain't done! Your car loving buddy Jim

[Atreiu]

Montoya's a racer. He'll race his socks off a lawnmower if he ever has to, and that's why I admire him. But he was born out of his time for F1, he should have traded paint with guys like Mansell.

[HoldenRT]

Originally posted by Madera
Finally!!

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/74843

Now, give us a win.

Not only for your own good, but to shut up all the morons.

He's already won in NASCAR?

[Dolph]

Yes, albeit on a road course.

[Buford]

Originally posted by gt40jim
Hi all, Having been blessed enough in life to have driven Formula Atlantics, FF1600's 8 lap records over the east coast, a pole at the Glen in a 427 Mkll Gt40 AND an ARCA car at Talladega. I can say that being in the pack at 180 mph with no real downforce on an undertired 3000 lb + car is every bit of a handful and hair raising as anything I have ever done! I have the utmost respect for that place. Don't diss what ya ain't done! Your car loving buddy Jim

Wow I'm impressed. No not a joke. I never got to drive a GT40 Watch out though. Now the popcorn box experts who never drove anything will start calling you a wannabe or never was or living in the past. Actual racing experience at Cesspool Comments is not considered to be an asset or add to credibility.

[MWM]

Originally posted by gt40jim
Don't diss what ya ain't done!

Does that include incest and Morris dancing?

Anyway - it is definitely good to get the views of somebody who has actually done it on this board, so good to hear from you.

[mursuka80]

Im pissed that my cable company stopped airing NASCAR JPM was a exciting driver in F1 and what i have seen him in NASCAR he is as exciting as ever

[Mauseri]

8. Scott Speed Toyota 187.824 50.984s + 0.094s

Not bad, how long has he been doing this?

[cheapracer]

Originally posted by Buford


Wow I'm impressed. No not a joke. I never got to drive a GT40 Watch out though. Now the popcorn box experts who never drove anything will start calling you a wannabe or never was or living in the past. Actual racing experience at Cesspool Comments is not considered to be an asset or add to credibility.

It's true jim, your in danger if you actually knowing what your talkng about around here especially if you can back it up with experience

[Spunout]

Well, congrats to JPM

I certainly don´t like Talladega lottery (yes, lottery - avoiding the Big Ones depends more on luck than skill), but Monty has done well this year and it would be nice to see him win. I might tune in to check out the last 20 laps or so.

[DLaw]

Originally posted by Atreiu
Montoya's a racer. He'll race his socks off a lawnmower if he ever has to, and that's why I admire him. But he was born out of his time for F1, he should have traded paint with guys like Mansell.

Yup.

Go JPM.

[whitewaterMkII]

Originally posted by micra_k10

Not bad, how long has he been doing this?

This is his first year with the big cars and if I'm not mistaken, his best result in qualifying to date.

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by Saint Devote
Montoya turned against f1. Today he is bitter about it.

No, and no.

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by cheapracer


It's true jim, your in danger if you actually knowing what your talkng about around here especially if you can back it up with experience

Oh really, you find this place a filthy, evil and corrupt place? Buford is an idiot, leave him alone.

[noikeee]

Originally posted by Buford


Wow I'm impressed. No not a joke. I never got to drive a GT40 Watch out though. Now the popcorn box experts who never drove anything will start calling you a wannabe or never was or living in the past. Actual racing experience at Cesspool Comments is not considered to be an asset or add to credibility.

Your experience would have been a great asset for this forum if it wasn't for all the unbelievable bitterness, negativism, and patronising nonsense that makes it impossible for it to contribute positively to a discussion.

[Gilles12]

Nascar?

Is that the one where you get to eat all the burgers you like and get a supersize me cupholder as standard?

Monster should fit right in

[msarmiento]

not to take anything from S. Speed but:

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8. Scott Speed Toyota 187.824 50.984s + 0.094s
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Originally posted by micra_k10

Not bad, how long has he been doing this?

From Talladega pole winner interview:

AFTER YOU POSTED YOUR TIME, WHICH DRIVER WERE YOU MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT MIGHT BEAT YOU?

JPM:"Martin (Truex) my teammate. I thought Martin had a chance of beating us. And a couple of go or go-home cars. If you really remember, we've got race trim in the car. We're maxed out for speed and stuff, but you don't have qualifying oils, you don't have the alternator disconnected, you don't have the power steering disconnected none of that stuff. So you're always thinking you take all that stuff off, you could run two or three tenths faster. So the chance of one of those guys beating you is always pretty high."

[wide-front-wing]

Originally posted by whitewaterMkII

What would you rather he have done, stick around and bleed it out like Coulthard has?

Get over it and stop blaming the sport?

[wide-front-wing]

Originally posted by Buford


Wow I'm impressed. No not a joke. I never got to drive a GT40 Watch out though. Now the popcorn box experts who never drove anything will start calling you a wannabe or never was or living in the past. Actual racing experience at Cesspool Comments is not considered to be an asset or add to credibility.

The chip on your shoulder is your problem, not the members of this board, if you are bipolar go get that taken care of...

[GerardF1]

Originally posted by Slyder
And whoever thinks that todays nationwide race wasn't exciting is a bloody liar!

Anyone who bothered to watch it, and then appear to be proud of it, is just sad.

[Buford]

Originally posted by wide-front-wing


The chip on your shoulder is your problem, not the members of this board, if you are bipolar go get that taken care of...

Nah it's all recreation for me. I am just mean enough to actually enjoy ruffling the feathers of know nothing never got closer to a racing car than row 23 of the grandstand Internet keyboard jockey popcorn box "racing experts." Or as the old saying goes... I don't suffer fools gladly. Of course not everybody here falls into that category, but certainly 80% at least do. Please tell me how can you look at the vast majority of the posts on this forum and not think you are in the company of morons? Vastly different than the other Atlas racing forum available here where the vast majority of the people who post actually do know what they're talking about.

[gt40jim]

I enjoy ALL the Atlas forums! Jim

[r4mses]

Originally posted by BMW_F1
wow.its been 4 years since his last pole.. Time really flies.
Spa 05.

sry for being off topic, but if you compare that to the circuits in shanghai or manama... you got to cry. bring back imola, suzuka and pre-castrated hockenheim! :>

[wide-front-wing]

Originally posted by Buford
Please tell me how can you look at the vast majority of the posts on this forum and not think you are in the company of morons?

Because people are basically good, and race fans are basically knowledge people with the best of intentions. You need to learn to tell yourself that. How do I do it? I'm an adult, I've made it to that level of maturity.

Your attitude here is basically anti-social - which is why very few here, if anyone, suffers YOU.

[benn5325]

Originally posted by Gilles12
Nascar?

Is that the one where you get to eat all the burgers you like and get a supersize me cupholder as standard?

Monster should fit right in

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[Madera]

Originally posted by Gilles12
Nascar?

Is that the one where you get to eat all the burgers you like and get a supersize me cupholder as standard?

Monster should fit right in

Moron. May a broccolli fed rhino fart in your diving bell!

[Buford]

Originally posted by wide-front-wing


Because people are basically good, and race fans are basically knowledge people with the best of intentions.

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

[travbrad]

Originally posted by LB


No but its probably scarier..

So you're saying they need to hold a race in Washington D.C.?

[klyster]

20th!! way to go Monty ;)

[LuckyStrike1]

In the words of Jimmie Johnson "Man it really sucks to race here"

Montoya up at the top of the field all day, drafting and having friends and looking racey and settling down for the finishing stretch. Avoided the big one, the first that is. Got pushed from behind by Hamlin which caused the second big one.

It really sucks to be race here.

Still, this was another race that showed Montoya and the team having taken a big step forward this year and he is still in the hunt for the Chase looking strong at all kind of tracks so far this season.

[Atreiu]

Running that fast and that close does bring luck into the equation. JPM ran out of his at the end of the race.

[Knowlesy]

Originally posted by Buford


Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Are you always so relentlessly tedious?

[Thunder Chat]

I've tried to watch nascar a few times, struggle with it though there are so many races in a year, they get so many points? and it seems to be about having a good set of cars for yourself for the year, and people in the field who will 'help' you in the race. Monty has a lot of natural ability, and is in a good team i thought so what is it he's been missing? i did expect him have done better than he has, can anyone who knows about such things explain?

[HSJ]

Originally posted by Buford

Actual racing experience at Cesspool Comments is not considered to be an asset or add to credibility.

Credibility? What is that? You make it sound like who is talking has some relevance to what is being said or discussed. It doesn't. If you don't get it, study some elementary logic, then you will.

[Knowlesy]

Originally posted by Thunder Chat
I've tried to watch nascar a few times, struggle with it though there are so many races in a year, they get so many points? and it seems to be about having a good set of cars for yourself for the year, and people in the field who will 'help' you in the race. Monty has a lot of natural ability, and is in a good team i thought so what is it he's been missing? i did expect him have done better than he has, can anyone who knows about such things explain?

Well, he's not in a good team. An improving one that is getting there, but not good. Also JPM himself is still improving.

The help thing only applies at the plate tracks, Daytona and Talladega, ordinarily.

Good cars are required like any other series.

[BMW_F1]

Originally posted by Thunder Chat
I've tried to watch nascar a few times, struggle with it though there are so many races in a year, they get so many points? and it seems to be about having a good set of cars for yourself for the year, and people in the field who will 'help' you in the race. Monty has a lot of natural ability, and is in a good team i thought so what is it he's been missing? i did expect him have done better than he has, can anyone who knows about such things explain?

The competition is very tight. Look at Jeff Gordon for example, he is considered one of the best drivers, if not the best, in NASCAR, yet he's only won 1 race in the last 2 and half years despite always having top equipment and team. Montoya is not driving for a top team, he never has actually. There are 4 organizations in NASCAR which pretty much dominate and take all the wins in a season, they have the most resources ($$$), better crews, best equipment..etc. Each one of these organizations (Gibbs, Hendrick, Rousch, Childress) fields up to 5 cars, which means there are always ~12 drivers with good equipment capable of winning a race. Of course there are races where one or two of these teams are nowhere in terms of setup. The best driver/crew combination in any given race out of these top teams is typically the winner ..(i.e Kyle Busch, Jimmy Johnson, Carl Edwards) - There are also some under performers (2 or 3) in these teams that are never a factor in the races.

There are also second tier teams (Petty, Penske, EarnhardtGanassi - Montoya's team, Waltrip, RedBull - Scott Speed).. , these guys can sneak up a win here and there when most of the top guns I mentioned above have a bad day which as you can imagine is extremely difficult for it happen since there are so many of them. The race last Sunday was a restrictor plate race, (there are 4 of them in the year out of 36 races), where cars run flat out throughout and tightly packed. These races are basically a lottery where the most important part is to try and survive the wrecks and have a fast car for the last 10 laps of the race where you can actually make something happen - a good drafting partner is also needed for these, without it you are nowhere.

[Gareth]

Originally posted by HSJ
Credibility? What is that? You make it sound like who is talking has some relevance to what is being said or discussed. It doesn't. If you don't get it, study some elementary logic, then you will.

Who is more likely to know what I had for breakfast, me or you?

Bacon butty, by the way, with red sauce. No egg, which in hindsight was an error.

[tkulla]

I'm sorry, but anyone who doesn't think the last 10 laps of Talledega was exciting doesn't know anything about racing. That's as spectacular as it gets, folks. And thankfully no one was seriously hurt by the flying debris (though one woman has a broken jaw).

And the best piece of driving I've seen anywhere this year was Kyle Busch almost saving himself once his car started to pendulum at 190mph. Amazing stuff.

Montoya is the real deal in NASCAR. His car isn't up to snuff for him to challenge for the Cup, but hopefully it will soon. Then we'll get to see more of Connie cheering on her man.

[brawngpteam.com]

Originally posted by Saint Devote
Montoya turned against f1. Today he is bitter about it.

I doubt Montoya will ever be better than he is in NASCAR. The podgy midget win tomorrow against the good ole' boys? Unlikely auld sport.

He will probably crash out.

Montoya always seemed like an arrogant sob to me. Very similar to the way Alonso is acting. For some drivers it seems to go to their head and they feel as if they natural born right is to demand whatever they want because they deem themselves 'special'. I was thinking about montoya the other day and was surprised at how quickly he went from hero to zero.

Bit of a david beckham? From Europe to the USA. Will he be back one day?

[Knowlesy]

Bit different to that. JPM has made a sideways move, Beckham took a dive.

[BMW_F1]

hey, I saw Beckam playing for Milan the other day.. Beckam and Posh were going to Hollywood and far away from home, JPM was coming back home and to face a new challenge where there is actually more racing and passing involved.