169 replies to this topic

[alg7_munif]

Great pace by Brawn and Redbull, too bad that Ferrari once again just gave points to others.

[Enkei]

This season is BrawnGP's. They're just too far ahead and others are not able to catch up (in time).

[pRy]

If this years championship had been decided by wins, Button with his 5 would be virtually WC now. Hamilton got 5 last year, Massa 6.

[Timstr11]

The thing is, Brawn's pace and RedBull's pace are fairly similar.

It's just that Brawn GP have a much better pitwall crew.

[Clatter]

Vettel had fantastic pace at the end once pass massa, would have been a close race if he had not been stuck behind.

[peroa]

This season is BrawnGP's. They're just too far ahead and others are not able to catch up (in time).

That`s too early to say. If RBR get their act together and don`t screw up strategywise then at least Vettel is a real threat.

[brett_sequeira]

Ferrari were special today really.
Good job From Webber to make it to the podium he outfoxed his teammate.
Poor barichello he was owned.

[Clatter]

If this years championship had been decided by wins, Button with his 5 would be virtually WC now. Hamilton got 5 last year, Massa 6.

Bet BE still thinks it's a good idea though.

[D.M.N.]

Brawn.

Ferrari. :down:

[D A]

Brawn
Webber
Ferrari

[santori]

That was an exciting race for Barcelona.

Button, Webber and Alonso looked especially good (edit: and Heidfeld and Rosberg? I didn't see enough of them). Did Piquet slow to let Alonso by?

Edited by santori, 10 May 2009 - 13:57.

[molive]

Boring race, compared to the other so far.

Jenson did what he had to do and won again, even though it took a little help from the pits.;)

Rubens perfect start, not so perfect strategy.

Massa great start, horrible strategy! Ferrari looks in shambles

[krapmeister]

That`s too early to say. If RBR get their act together and don`t screw up strategywise then at least Vettel is a real threat.

Agree - if Newey gets a DDD solution onto the RB5 that brings 0.3 to 0.5 secs advantage to laptime then it could be a great contest for the WDC/WCC. There is still time...

Edited by krapmeister, 10 May 2009 - 14:04.

[BiH]

vettel was fast enough to seriously challenge brawn and would have been P2 easily but being behind massa for all race why didnt short stop vettel to leap frog massa.

[brett_sequeira]

I wonder what Luca Montizemello is going to say about this debacle. What happened to Kimis Car. Maybe he should be given an icecream truck to drive around.

[alg7_munif]

No wonder Ferrari is faster, they thought that the race is one lap shorter.

[leomax]

Sorry for rubens.
ferrari
vettel will be cursing the kers now.

[brett_sequeira]

Agree - if Newey gets a DDD solution onto the RB5 that brings 0.3 to 0.5 secs advantage to laptime then it could be a great contest for the WCC. There is still time...

I think Neweys implementation of the DD will be something spectacular to watch. Will Mercedes supply Brawn with the KERS unit if so Brawn will be untouchable.

[krapmeister]

Rubens looks a bit peeved...

[Scotracer]

From other thread:

Ross Brawn on BBC just now:

1. 3-stop was always our optimal strategy;

2. Jenson was put onto a two-stop to optimize chances of a 1-2. We didn't expect him to be able to challenge Rubens;

3. Rubens was .5 sec a lap slower than he should have been in second stint;

4. We expected Rubens to be much faster than he was, and we don't yet know what the problem was.

Rubens really does struggle mid-race in that Brawn.

[BiH]

I think Neweys implementation of the DD will be something spectacular to watch. Will Mercedes supply Brawn with the KERS unit if so Brawn will be untouchable.

considering they are just one-two tenths short of brawn I think that monaco red bull is the favorite to win the race unless jenson wasn't really pushing the pace, because the radio transmission of jenson saying for rubens to go faster sounded like button could have gone faster.

[primer]

Why wasn't Rubens also shifted to a two stop strategy? Did Jenson come up with the idea of moving to two stops himself or did his engineer do a better job than Ruben's engineer?

Ferrari....at least they didn't run out of fuel on track. Stefano will spin this as some great achievement.

[kosmos]

Alonso 5th, very good, this guy deserve a better car
Massa I'm sorry for you baby
Button boring but nice job
Webber

Boring race as always here.

[Anomnader]

Vettel is good, people talk about him being the best there is, but I can't recall many great overtakes by him (except in the wet when he had a car advantage)

I think today he took way to long to get past Massa, kers or no kers.

Edited by Anomnader, 10 May 2009 - 14:11.

[DOF_power]

Boring, boring, boring, ******* boring.

[Anomnader]

Ferrari....at least they didn't run out of fuel on track. Stefano will spin this as some great achievement.

erm, they did, Massa never made it back home.
Unless you are just referring to track as when the race is on.

[brunopascal]

The Brawn monolith rules performance & strategy wise
Button, Barri, Webber, Alonso
Ferrari car performance Ferrari pit & pitwall, what a joke!

[primer]

From other thread:

• 1. 3-stop was always our optimal strategy;
  
• 3. Rubens was .5 sec a lap slower than he should have been in second stint;

Which is another way of saying that two stops was the ideal strategy.

[Buckethead]

Damn. Alonso does need a better car. What a drive. He is magic

We got a little teaser of Alonso vs Hamilton II. Now I want more

[primer]

Rubens looks a bit peeved...

Understatement.

Unless you are just referring to track as when the race is on.

Yes, I mean at least he managed to crawl across the finishing line. Imagine their embaressment if he parked it a couple corners before flag on last lap.

[HoldenRT]

Webber had some luck woohoo..

It's getting really frustrating, they have changed all of these rules and still the races are as processional as ever. Two races in a row Vettel could have won but was nowhere near it because of being stuck behind cars infront. If you lead into turn 1, your pretty much assured of the victory because there will be a KERS car holding everyone up behind you. KERS is actually detracting from the battle of the front.

Rubens got the shaft bigtime.

Alonso did a great job to get 5th.

Button did well but he has had the last two races handed to him on a platter. He did a great overtake last race, and this race... a gift.

Edited by HoldenRT, 10 May 2009 - 14:15.

[OfficeLinebacker]

How can you think this race was boring? Passes for position on the last lap? Crazy mistakes/hijinks? This season is the best season in recent memory in terms of entertaining races.

Heck at first we thought Vettel had Webbo covered and Woobens had Button covered. Startling reversal of fortunes, that.

Y'all be trippin', yo!

[Cenotaph]

strange race, particularly Webber truly came out of nowhere to beat Massa and Vettel. Brilliant strategy.

Rubens should have won that one, but im sure he could have changed to a two-stopper if he wanted to. I think Red Bull has more pure speed than the Brawns and still the races just go accordingly to Brawn, must be that lil things champions have ;) I mean, Massa could be in front of at least one of them at the start, but he only stopped Vettel.

It's good to see Ferrari behaves as expected from them, screwing up every single race, its comforting. Still gratz to Massa and to the guys developing the car, cause that, my friends, is the third best car in the grid and can possibly become better than the Brawns soon.

[HoldenRT]

Vettel is good, people talk about him being the best there is, but I can't recall many great overtakes by him (except in the wet when he had a car advantage)

I think today he took way to long to get past Massa, kers or no kers.

No one overtake another car in the race other then first lap or SC or am I wrong? Kimi couldn't get past Heidfeld. Glock couldn't get past Hamilton. What did you expect Vettel to do? I don't believe any driver would have overtaken Massa.

[HoldenRT]

They didn't show Webber's overtake in the press conference. Idiots. They didn't show the Button one in China either.

It really set up the podium, if Alonso got past him he could have been screwed.

[Lukin83]

Happy for Webber's 3rd, sorry for Rubens' 2nd, laugh at Ferrari Very good job from Alonso and nice efforts by Nick and Nico. Toyota

Kinda interesting race despite lack of overtakes. The Catalunya circuit still annoys me though. Had the race was on a different track we would have a lot more action - there was a lot of situation when faster cars were behind slower ones. And what a calendar we've got? Bahrain - Barcelona - Monaco - the borefest trio

[boost]

button stunning pace last stint
rubens strat didnt work but got 2nd
webber excellent 2nd stint.

vettel joke of a start, screwed up his stops and couldent pass an ailing massa.
ferrari in generall

[Fatality]

Which is another way of saying that two stops was the ideal strategy.

Button was put onto a 2 stopper to ensure he beat massa and vettel both who were heavier and could have overtaken him in the first stops.

[Kelateboy]

The thing is, Brawn's pace and RedBull's pace are fairly similar.

It's just that Brawn GP have a much better pitwall crew.

And strategists.

RBR strategists managed to keep Vettel behind Massa for the whole afternoon. And they managed to stop at precisely the same moments as Massa - TWICE.

-KB

[blackgerby]

Will Massa keep his place -
Will the car weigh enough, he won't have had much chance to pick up rubber?
Will he have enough fuel in the car to fill the FIAs test bottles?

[Scotracer]

Really surprised how marginal Brawn's margin of performance was today. I was suspecting a Brawn 1-2 after the winter testing times but by a bigger margin. Let's hope they can develop the car.

[MegaManson]

I don't understand the fuss BBC are making about the blacked up fan

The guy is a Hamilton fan, was wearing a McLaren shirt and had a replica of Hamilton's steering wheel, he blacked up as a homage to Hamilton not to be racist, if he was a racist Alonso fan why would he be dressed up in McLaren gear and have Hamilton's steering wheel replica ?

It is no different to when Spurs fans were wearing Edgar Davids dreadlocks and glasses or when American's used to put on long wigs and beard as homage to Alexei Lalas and so on

Wasn't racist

[kaivo]

Ferrari FAIL
Brawn strong as usual.
RBR same
Toyota Expected Result
Williams ok
Renault ok

[Clatter]

Will Massa keep his place -
Will the car weigh enough, he won't have had much chance to pick up rubber?
Will he have enough fuel in the car to fill the FIAs test bottles?

Did he actually run out of fuel, or just pull over? On-board didnt sound like he ran out.

[27GV]

the trophy

what the hell was that? A mini windmill? Could take some eyes out.

Happy for Webber though.

Edited by 27GV, 10 May 2009 - 14:36.

[D.M.N.]

I don't understand the fuss BBC are making about the blacked up fan

The guy is a Hamilton fan, was wearing a McLaren shirt and had a replica of Hamilton's steering wheel, he blacked up as a homage to Hamilton not to be racist, if he was a racist Alonso fan why would he be dressed up in McLaren gear and have Hamilton's steering wheel replica ?

It is no different to when Spurs fans were wearing Edgar Davids dreadlocks and glasses or when American's used to put on long wigs and beard as homage to Alexei Lalas and so on

Wasn't racist

You paint your face black.... and its not racist?

[lokiman]

The BBC team are suggesting that Massa may end up being disqualified, if Ferrari can't get enough fuel out of the car to present to the FIA for post-race testing.

[Banzon]

Wonder if Massa's car without fuel and without picking up extra rubber will make it to the minimum weight limit...

[MegaManson]

You paint your face black.... and its not racist?

He was a Hamilton fan, if he was dressed up in Renault gear he would be a racist but I think the guy was just blacking up as a homage to Hamilton not to be a rabid Alonso fan

[Scotracer]

Did he actually run out of fuel, or just pull over? On-board didnt sound like he ran out.

He manually turned the engine off so no, he didn't actually run out. Perhaps he was told to turn it off to save some fuel.